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The word “anoint” has cropped up in recent threads, lately. The word “anoint” is a biblical term and, as such, should be used biblically (wouldn’t you think). On closer study it appears that the word must be one of the most overused and misunderstood words in the P/C Christianese vocabulary.

I hear the word a hundred times daily on TBN (when I actually do watch TBN) and in almost every P/C service I attend. By the number of times it is used, you would think it is found on every page of the New Testament. It seems to mean, on TBN, any high emotion or strong feeling which is often confused or some person who wants to be elevated (“anointed”) or self-promoted above his brethren – you know, “Brother Bob is a truly anointed preacher - at least that’s what the newspaper ad said.” Someone, like Bob, who has a special “anointing”, is someone who can deliver the perceived goods when he ministers – enthusiasm, antics, interest, well-timed emotionally-charged tear-jerking stories, funny jokes, and puts on a good show. Such a preacher is considered “anointed”. For the rest of us “anointing” is used to define what is sometimes called the “moving of the Holy Spirit” or the “power of God”.

Only this is not how the NT uses the word. While the word is found 22 times in the NT (NKJV) it is used in a spiritual sense (as we always used it) in five passages (below). Three of them relate to the anointing of Christ as Messiah:

Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed MeTo preach the gospel to the poor;He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captivesAnd recovery of sight to the blind,To set at liberty those who are oppressed.

Acts 10:38 God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

Hebrews 1:9 You [Christ] have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.

Only two passages relate to the anointing on believers and from those passages (below) it appears all believers are “anointed” by God, not just at special moments or times (as when the “Spirit is moving”), nor on just certain naturally-talented, attractive people (when the alleged “power of God” is on them) who are do extraordinary things God means for us ordinary Christians to do in ordinary ways (healing is, after all, the children’s bread, the staple ministry of every believer in the body of Christ, not just the evangelists). We are all “anointed” by God, as the only two verses in the NT that use the word in relation to us shows:

2 Corinthians 1:21 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God. +

1 John 2:20, 27 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. . . . But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.



Anointing is the act by which a person or instrument is consecrated to God for His exclusive use. In the OT kings, priests and prophets as well as Temple furnishings were “anointed” when they were set aside for (consecrated to) God’s use. Jesus was the “Anointed One” because He was, of all people, set aside for the special use of God – Messiah means “Anointed One”. All believers (according to 2 Cor. 2 and 1 John 2) are set aside for God’s exclusive use when they are saved. When we are saved we are consecrated to God by the Holy Spirit, who puts His seal on us (Eph. 1.13).

Anointing is never used in God’s vocabulary for the moving of the Holy Spirit or for specially gifted people or for functions we perform in religious services. All believers are anointed all the time and in every place. We are exclusively His. The grace, blessing and favor of the Lord Jesus Christ the Messiah [the Anointed One] be with all the saints, God's holy people, those set apart [i.e., anointed] for God, to be, as it were, exclusively His [i.e., anointed]. Amen! (Revelation 22.21 AMP)

So, I wonder what God thinks when we consistently misuse the terms He gave us in His Word and willfully add our own definitions to them?

What do you think?

~Jim
 

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Jim M said:
The word “anoint” has cropped up in recent threads, lately. The word “anoint” is a biblical term and, as such, should be used biblically (wouldn’t you think). On closer study it appears that the word must be one of the most overused and misunderstood words in the P/C Christianese vocabulary.

I hear the word a hundred times daily on TBN (when I actually do watch TBN) and in almost every P/C service I attend. By the number of times it is used, you would think it is found on every page of the New Testament. It seems to mean, on TBN, any high emotion or strong feeling which is often confused or some person who wants to be elevated (“anointed”) or self-promoted above his brethren – you know, “Brother Bob is a truly anointed preacher - at least that’s what the newspaper ad said.” Someone, like Bob, who has a special “anointing”, is someone who can deliver the perceived goods when he ministers – enthusiasm, antics, interest, well-timed emotionally-charged tear-jerking stories, funny jokes, and puts on a good show. Such a preacher is considered “anointed”. For the rest of us “anointing” is used to define what is sometimes called the “moving of the Holy Spirit” or the “power of God”.

Only this is not how the NT uses the word. While the word is found 22 times in the NT (NKJV) it is used in a spiritual sense (as we always used it) in five passages (below). Three of them relate to the anointing of Christ as Messiah:

Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed MeTo preach the gospel to the poor;He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captivesAnd recovery of sight to the blind,To set at liberty those who are oppressed.

Acts 10:38 God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

Hebrews 1:9 You [Christ] have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.


Only two passages relate to the anointing on believers and from those passages (below) it appears all believers are “anointed” by God, not just at special moments or times (as when the “Spirit is moving”), nor on just certain naturally-talented, attractive people (when the alleged “power of God” is on them) who are do extraordinary things God means for us ordinary Christians to do in ordinary ways (healing is, after all, the children’s bread, the staple ministry of every believer in the body of Christ, not just the evangelists). We are all “anointed” by God, as the only two verses in the NT that use the word in relation to us shows:

2 Corinthians 1:21 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God. +

1 John 2:20, 27 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. . . . But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.




Anointing is the act by which a person or instrument is consecrated to God for His exclusive use. In the OT kings, priests and prophets as well as Temple furnishings were “anointed” when they were set aside for (consecrated to) God’s use. Jesus was the “Anointed One” because He was, of all people, set aside for the special use of God – Messiah means “Anointed One”. All believers (according to 2 Cor. 2 and 1 John 2) are set aside for God’s exclusive use when they are saved. When we are saved we are consecrated to God by the Holy Spirit, who puts His seal on us (Eph. 1.13).

Anointing is never used in God’s vocabulary for the moving of the Holy Spirit or for specially gifted people or for functions we perform in religious services. All believers are anointed all the time and in every place. We are exclusively His. The grace, blessing and favor of the Lord Jesus Christ the Messiah [the Anointed One] be with all the saints, God's holy people, those set apart [i.e., anointed] for God, to be, as it were, exclusively His [i.e., anointed]. Amen! (Revelation 22.21 AMP)

So, I wonder what God thinks when we consistently misuse the terms He gave us in His Word and willfully add our own definitions to them?

What do you think?

~Jim
Well you have said it all. I am very, very appreciative of this thread. You are right about the misuse of this word, people do use it without understanding what it means, you've brought quite a bit of clarity to it and I must say that it is a joy to respond to your thread without disputing what you are saying.:clap: :amen: to Jim M. Let's hear it for the boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:blush:
 
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womanofgodwcci said:
Well you have said it all. I am very, very appreciative of this thread. You are right about the misuse of this word, people do use it without understanding what it means, you've brought quite a bit of clarity to it and I must say that it is a joy to respond to your thread without disputing what you are saying.:clap: :amen: to Jim M. Let's hear it for the boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:blush:
Awwww shucks, woman of God. :blush:

~Jim

 
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9-iron said:
Because there are thousands of Drones, nuthuggers or whatever you want to call them. Hey, if the catch phrase sells why mess with it.
Well, it does sell an image, not to mention cassettes, CDs, books, videos and DVDs, etc. and will put you on a self-promoting mailing list to reinforce how “anointed” (meaning, exceptional and special) the ministry truly is. That’s the sad way the term is used and why I think we should use the term in the same way God meant it to be used. I am sure He did not mean for the term to be used as a marketing gimmick.

~Jim
 
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Good point, Jim.

Where do we get the idea of a "special annointing?" I think it would be very interesting to be in healing service that wasn't all "worked up" - where God just did stuff, you know? Does He require us to be showy?

Sorry if I'm getting off topic. We should be more careful how we use our words; I'd hate to lose the meaning entirely.
 
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Good point, Jim.

Where do we get the idea of a "special annointing?" I think it would be very interesting to be in healing service that wasn't all "worked up" - where God just did stuff, you know? Does He require us to be showy?

Sorry if I'm getting off topic. We should be more careful how we use our words; I'd hate to lose the meaning entirely.


Exactly. God can do His work, even if, people aren't holy running or rolling.
 
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My point, exactly. David was anointed (literally, with oil) to signify that He was the chosen of God as king of Israel.

Great, now we will have TE literally drowning themselves in oil. It ain't kool-aid, but it will get ya none the less....:mad:


I can see it now, Bro. So and So is going to annoint Pastor So & So with annointing oil from the late and great Evangelist So&So, this special oil was used in frontier meetings back in the 1880's, so it has a century of annointing upon it.
 
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catlover said:
Exactly. God can do His work, even if, people aren't holy running or rolling.
I suppose that our favorite sports team could win the big game even if there weren't thousands of screaming fans in the stands also, but then we tend to show our emotions in the things we enjoy.

I wonder then why when if no one has a problem with getting excited about the last touchdown why we have a problem if someone gets excited about what God is doing. Certainly God is more exciting than our team winning the big game. Maybe the person is just overcome with the presence of God and doesn't know how else to express it.

While I realize that there mose definitely are abuses of this, I don't think it's a good idea to use a genrealization to paint everyone as some kind of crazy holy roller. It could be that they are just excited about the presence of God.
 
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probinson said:
I suppose that our favorite sports team could win the big game even if there weren't thousands of screaming fans in the stands also, but then we tend to show our emotions in the things we enjoy.

I wonder then why when if no one has a problem with getting excited about the last touchdown why we have a problem if someone gets excited about what God is doing. Certainly God is more exciting than our team winning the big game. Maybe the person is just overcome with the presence of God and doesn't know how else to express it.

While I realize that there mose definitely are abuses of this, I don't think it's a good idea to use a genrealization to paint everyone as some kind of crazy holy roller. It could be that they are just excited about the presence of God.
Amen brother, I have been avoiding this thread to not get into an argument over this as I figured this thread was for all who felt this way at least that is the posts I have been reading but I agree with you, why shouldnt we get excited about God and since when are people not annointed for specific tasks over and above the general annointing Jim is talking about?
 
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bill16652 said:
Amen brother, I have been avoiding this thread to not get into an argument over this as I figured this thread was for all who felt this way at least that is the posts I have been reading but I agree with you, why shouldnt we get excited about God and since when are people not annointed for specific tasks over and above the general annointing Jim is talking about?
Hey nothing wrong with getting excited about the things of God, but it is wrong to equate excitment to anointing.
 
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Jim M said:
The word “anoint” has cropped up in recent threads, lately. The word “anoint” is a biblical term and, as such, should be used biblically (wouldn’t you think). On closer study it appears that the word must be one of the most overused and misunderstood words in the P/C Christianese vocabulary.

I hear the word a hundred times daily on TBN (when I actually do watch TBN) and in almost every P/C service I attend. By the number of times it is used, you would think it is found on every page of the New Testament. It seems to mean, on TBN, any high emotion or strong feeling which is often confused or some person who wants to be elevated (“anointed”) or self-promoted above his brethren – you know, “Brother Bob is a truly anointed preacher - at least that’s what the newspaper ad said.” Someone, like Bob, who has a special “anointing”, is someone who can deliver the perceived goods when he ministers – enthusiasm, antics, interest, well-timed emotionally-charged tear-jerking stories, funny jokes, and puts on a good show. Such a preacher is considered “anointed”. For the rest of us “anointing” is used to define what is sometimes called the “moving of the Holy Spirit” or the “power of God”.

Only this is not how the NT uses the word. While the word is found 22 times in the NT (NKJV) it is used in a spiritual sense (as we always used it) in five passages (below). Three of them relate to the anointing of Christ as Messiah:

Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed MeTo preach the gospel to the poor;He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captivesAnd recovery of sight to the blind,To set at liberty those who are oppressed.

Acts 10:38 God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

Hebrews 1:9 You [Christ] have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.


Only two passages relate to the anointing on believers and from those passages (below) it appears all believers are “anointed” by God, not just at special moments or times (as when the “Spirit is moving”), nor on just certain naturally-talented, attractive people (when the alleged “power of God” is on them) who are do extraordinary things God means for us ordinary Christians to do in ordinary ways (healing is, after all, the children’s bread, the staple ministry of every believer in the body of Christ, not just the evangelists). We are all “anointed” by God, as the only two verses in the NT that use the word in relation to us shows:

2 Corinthians 1:21 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God. +

1 John 2:20, 27 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. . . . But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.




Anointing is the act by which a person or instrument is consecrated to God for His exclusive use. In the OT kings, priests and prophets as well as Temple furnishings were “anointed” when they were set aside for (consecrated to) God’s use. Jesus was the “Anointed One” because He was, of all people, set aside for the special use of God – Messiah means “Anointed One”. All believers (according to 2 Cor. 2 and 1 John 2) are set aside for God’s exclusive use when they are saved. When we are saved we are consecrated to God by the Holy Spirit, who puts His seal on us (Eph. 1.13).

Anointing is never used in God’s vocabulary for the moving of the Holy Spirit or for specially gifted people or for functions we perform in religious services. All believers are anointed all the time and in every place. We are exclusively His. The grace, blessing and favor of the Lord Jesus Christ the Messiah [the Anointed One] be with all the saints, God's holy people, those set apart [i.e., anointed] for God, to be, as it were, exclusively His [i.e., anointed]. Amen! (Revelation 22.21 AMP)

So, I wonder what God thinks when we consistently misuse the terms He gave us in His Word and willfully add our own definitions to them?

What do you think?

~Jim

I agree with you, BUT your statement that the anointing falls on ALL believers at all times is incorrect. The annointing ONLY falls on some believers. Only those who choose to give themselves wholey to The Lord will be consecrated and set aside for God's Holy Use.
 
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BenAdam said:
Hey nothing wrong with getting excited about the things of God, but it is wrong to equate excitment to anointing.
I agree. Excitement does not necessarily equal anointing. But sometimes when the anointing is flowing, we get excited.

See what I'm saying? Just because someone is excited and expressing emotion does not mean they're not functioning under the anointing, or vice versa.
 
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BenAdam said:
Hey nothing wrong with getting excited about the things of God, but it is wrong to equate excitment to anointing.

I think I hear a hammer hittin' a nail here...

I think our misperceptions of "The" Anointing comes because of an abuse by those who equate excitement to anointing and those who give themselves over to that excitement as anointing.

Yes, in His Presence there is fullness of joy.

His Presence IS the Anointing. There is where you will find joy... not just excitement, though joy produces an excitement. But joy that comes from seeing your Father at work by the present Presence of Holy Spirit.

But, just because a group of folks are excited at a religious meeting by no means should be equated to The Anointing.

Excitement doesn't get folks saved, healed and delivered. Only The Anointing, God's true Presence, will do that.
 
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qh93536 said:
I agree with you, BUT your statement that the anointing falls on ALL believers at all times is incorrect. The annointing ONLY falls on some believers. Only those who choose to give themselves wholey to The Lord will be consecrated and set aside for God's Holy Use.
And where does this idea come from? According to the New Testament, all believers are “anointed”, at least according to the only two scriptures in the NT that talk about the anointing of believers:
2 Corinthians 1:21 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God.

1 John 2:20, 27 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things. . . . But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.
The view you offer is a purely extra-biblical view of “the anointing” that has arisen in P/C circles. It is not supported by the Word.

If you can find me a scripture that says otherwise, I will gladly consider it.

~Jim



 
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probinson said:
I suppose that our favorite sports team could win the big game even if there weren't thousands of screaming fans in the stands also, but then we tend to show our emotions in the things we enjoy.

I wonder then why when if no one has a problem with getting excited about the last touchdown why we have a problem if someone gets excited about what God is doing. Certainly God is more exciting than our team winning the big game. Maybe the person is just overcome with the presence of God and doesn't know how else to express it.

While I realize that there mose definitely are abuses of this, I don't think it's a good idea to use a genrealization to paint everyone as some kind of crazy holy roller. It could be that they are just excited about the presence of God.
Then there are people like me who do not get all emotionally charged at anything, at least not like what you describe. I am a pretty low-key person in that respect. To look at me on the outside you would never know what was going on inside. My only expression of emotion is weeping (not the manliest expression, I know) but as far as the other stuff, it just ain’t me. A holy-roller I ain’t.

Is there a place for my kind of person at a P/C meeting?

~Jim

 
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Jim M said:
Then there are people like me who do not get all emotionally charged at anything, at least not like what you describe. I am a pretty low-key person in that respect. To look at me on the outside you would never know what was going on inside. My only expression of emotion is weeping (not the manliest expression, I know) but as far as the other stuff, it just ain’t me. A holy-roller I ain’t.

Is there a place for my kind of person at a P/C meeting?

~Jim

Me, too.
We used to have a pastor who frequently said "It's okay to get excited; feel free to shout or jump" (more or less), and I wondered if it was okay to be quiet, too.

But I understand people DO get excited, and I don't have a problem with that. What bugs me is when 'they' use loud music and lots of running and shouting to cover the fact that God isn't actually doing anything. (well, He's always working, but you know what I mean.) Or to say God wouldn't do anything unless they ran and shouted. Excitement may go with the working of the Spirit, but it isn't a formula to get God to show up.
 
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