Why do some Christian's dismiss Creationism?

[gluadys]

By God is love and He doesn't want us to misunderstand Him

LOL. Facts can be misunderstood. So sticking to facts does not avoid confusion.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

If you think God isn't trying to teach truth in Genesis, I don't know what to say.

God is trying to teach truth in the beginning of Genesis, just not history.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

By God is love and He doesn't want us to misunderstand Him

But we misunderstand Him all the time.

 

[ThaiDuykhang]

Premise 1: My dog has a nose
Premise 2: I like milk and sugar in my coffee
Conclusion: The Empire State Building is the tallest in New York City

Both the premises and the conclusion are factually correct. The logic, however, is not sound.

Next.

your conclusion can't be supported by your evidence(non-sequitur). so scientifically it's valueless. unless your bring out relevent evidence, it will be considered wrong or at least nonsence.

 

[ThaiDuykhang]

Amen, you are correct. And that is why He gave us the witness of the Bible, the witness of His Creation, and the guiding hand of the Holy Spirit to help us to discern the truth that both reveal.

He doesn't send agnostic/atheist to help us interpreting the Bible. remember no faithful can ever "discover" evolution

 

[ThaiDuykhang]

LOL. Facts can be misunderstood. So sticking to facts does not avoid confusion.

"God is love and doesn't want us to misunderstand Him" is the rule to approach Him.
however fossils are facts and can deceive.

 

[ThaiDuykhang]

God is trying to teach truth in the beginning of Genesis, just not history.

Why God should twist history? you better explain.
"God catch an ape and make it into a man" is equally understandable for Moses and apostles

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

Why God should twist history? you better explain.
"God catch an ape and make it into a man" is equally understandable for Moses and apostles

Using a myth to teach is not twisting history.

God could have taught evolution and all manner of science to the Hebrews, but that wasn't His purpose. It would only have distracted from His message that He is the Creator of all things and that no other thing is His equal.

 

[ThaiDuykhang]

Using a myth to teach is not twisting history.

God could have taught evolution and all manner of science to the Hebrews, but that wasn't His purpose. It would only have distracted from His message that He is the Creator of all things and that no other thing is His equal.

That's a wicked understanding of God. you can equally say Jesus has never praticed any miracles but God wanted us to admit Jesus is God, so He put miracles in the Bibles.

 

[ThaiDuykhang]

to fragmentsofdreams:


God doesn't create misunderstanding nor does He deliberately twist facts to avoid misunderstanding.

KJV

Gen 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

Don't you think someone will use this as an attack on the omnipotence of God?

 

[gluadys]

"God is love and doesn't want us to misunderstand Him" is the rule to approach Him.
however fossils are facts and can deceive.

Yes, the Chinese used to think they were dragon bones and ground them up for medicines. And medieval Europeans used to think rock was plastic enough to grow into imitations of shells and bones.

It took more than finding fossils to come to an understanding of the truth of what they are.

 

[ThaiDuykhang]

Yes, the Chinese used to think they were dragon bones and ground them up for medicines. And medieval Europeans used to think rock was plastic enough to grow into imitations of shells and bones.

Calling fossils dragon bones is definately wrong, however I'm not sure if they really can cure some disease.

It took more than finding fossils to come to an understanding of the truth of what they are.

About TE only the existence of fossil is beyond doubt. others like the age of fossils can be wrongly determined. age of fossil is a conclusion rather than an undisputed fact

 

[gluadys]

About TE only the existence of fossil is beyond doubt. others like the age of fossils can be wrongly determined. age of fossil is a conclusion rather than an undisputed fact

And in most cases a well-supported conclusion.

 

[ThaiDuykhang]

And in most cases a well-supported conclusion.

How about phrenology?

 

[gluadys]

How about phrenology?

That is as well supported as astrology. According to Michael Behe, that makes it science, but I expect very few scientists would agree.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

That's a wicked understanding of God. you can equally say Jesus has never praticed any miracles but God wanted us to admit Jesus is God, so He put miracles in the Bibles.

No, because the Gospels are ancient regilious biographies, not myths. Knowing the literary genre of a piece of writing is essential.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

to fragmentsofdreams:


God doesn't create misunderstanding nor does He deliberately twist facts to avoid misunderstanding.

KJV

Gen 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

Don't you think someone will use this as an attack on the omnipotence of God?

Did you mean omniscience?

Someone could (wrongly) use it as an attack against God's omniscience. Since such an attack would be stronger in a historical reading, I don't see your point.

 

[ThaiDuykhang]

That is as well supported as astrology. According to Michael Behe, that makes it science, but I expect very few scientists would agree.

Not sure about astrology, but scientists generally agree with phrenology back then.

 

[ThaiDuykhang]

No, because the Gospels are ancient regilious biographies, not myths. Knowing the literary genre of a piece of writing is essential.

Moses wrote most if not all Genesis, St Luke wrote Luke. why moses is a liar but while Luke isn't?

Do you have any authority to decide which book is historically false, which is factual truth? They're all God's words.

 

[ThaiDuykhang]

Did you mean omniscience?

Someone could (wrongly) use it as an attack against God's omniscience. Since such an attack would be stronger in a historical reading, I don't see your point.

yeah, omniscience.
there's no history writings regarding God if you don't take Bible as a history book.
I don't see your point.