DZoolander
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- Apr 24, 2007
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How America has evolved over the past 40-50 years is an interesting case study in how quickly things can fundamentally change in a society. People often think that great social shifts take a long time to occur - but I think that's incorrect. It really only takes one generation - because once it becomes all THEY have ever known (and everyone else dies off) - it's now the norm.
Prior to the 1980s public education in the US was virtually free and college debt (unless you went to private university) was unheard of. My dad went to the University of California system - and graduated debt free. My sister is a baby boomer - also went to the University of California system (having graduated with her BA in 1974 and her MA in 1976). She was able to pay for her entire college education (including rent/books/etc) on a part time job teaching swimming at the YWCA. No loans, no grants, no scholarships, no help from my folks. Just her part time job.
That was because in those days, states (on average) would pay for about 80-90% of all university operating costs. Students would pay tuition, of course, but tuition pretty much served as a way to keep them invested in the process and keep the non-serious out. It certainly wasn't the primary means of supporting the universities.
Nowadays in the US - on average - states pay about 8-10% of university operating costs.
People accept this nowadays (and defend it) because it's all they've known. The boomers have bought into the whole "taxation is theft" types of arguments and see any kind of public investment in anything as some bizarre evidence of "socialism" - and balk against it. Kids don't fight for it - because they don't really know any different. They're used to getting the short end of the stick.
But for the MAJORITY of time 20th century - it simply wasn't that way.
Prior to the 1980s public education in the US was virtually free and college debt (unless you went to private university) was unheard of. My dad went to the University of California system - and graduated debt free. My sister is a baby boomer - also went to the University of California system (having graduated with her BA in 1974 and her MA in 1976). She was able to pay for her entire college education (including rent/books/etc) on a part time job teaching swimming at the YWCA. No loans, no grants, no scholarships, no help from my folks. Just her part time job.
That was because in those days, states (on average) would pay for about 80-90% of all university operating costs. Students would pay tuition, of course, but tuition pretty much served as a way to keep them invested in the process and keep the non-serious out. It certainly wasn't the primary means of supporting the universities.
Nowadays in the US - on average - states pay about 8-10% of university operating costs.
People accept this nowadays (and defend it) because it's all they've known. The boomers have bought into the whole "taxation is theft" types of arguments and see any kind of public investment in anything as some bizarre evidence of "socialism" - and balk against it. Kids don't fight for it - because they don't really know any different. They're used to getting the short end of the stick.
But for the MAJORITY of time 20th century - it simply wasn't that way.
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