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Why do so called interpreters who 'translate' the Word of God actually pervert it?

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I was in a jam, as I was in a rush to get to my band’s jam session, because they were trying to jam through their next hit on our album. On my way I got stuck in a traffic jam, so I ate a jam sandwich in the car, looked to my left and noticed there was something wrong with the door jam.

Now translate that paragraph word for word into Hebrew.
Umm...a door jam is spelt “jamb”.

You make the point very well, though.
 
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Thanks for the reply but when I speak about this matters it always turns out the same 'Do you have a degree in Hebrew/Greek?'. Obviously I don't. But you actually don't need it to perform a simple check and to see what word original uses and how it corresponds to a translation. This is what Strong's was created for.
Strong's suffers from word study fallacies.

It is better to consult an lexicon like the Theological Dictionary of the NT by Kittel-Friedrich
https://www.amazon.com/Theological-Dictionary-New-Testament-Set/dp/0802823246
 
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The NIV is one of the worst of them. I use KJV, weird for a Lutheran, i know.

What is wrong with the NIV? I don't like the word "vault" in Genesis 1, but otherwise that chapter is much better in the NIV than several other Bibles. (I did a parallel reading of five versions on Bible Hub.)
 
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What is wrong with the NIV? I don't like the word "vault" in Genesis 1, but otherwise that chapter is much better in the NIV than several other Bibles. (I did a parallel reading of five versions on Bible Hub.)

The major criticism I'm familiar with for the NIV is that it has an evangelical Protestant bias in the word choices.

For example, Acts 1:20 which discusses the vacancy of the Apostles left by Judas, Peter says in Young's Literal Translation "or it hath been written in the book of Psalms: Let his lodging-place become desolate, and let no one be dwelling in it, and his oversight let another take."

The Greek for "oversight" says: Τὴν ἐπισκοπὴν αὐτοῦ "Thn episkophn autou" i.e. episcopal and oversight is the direct meaning of "episkopos"

Other translations lean towards an office of bishop or something along those lines.
KJV: and his bishoprick let another take.
RSV: ‘His office let another take.’

However, the NIV translates it as
“‘May another take his place of leadership."

This definitely changes the emphasis of an office to just a role.

There are other similar issues that I have with the NIV American Evangelical Protestant bias.
 
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