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no the sabbath, it clearly pointing to a future time. that is not now. i am not sure what how you are not seeing that.
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no the sabbath, it clearly pointing to a future time. that is not now. i am not sure what how you are not seeing that.Can you specify which text and point out where you see the Sabbath in it please? The quote included multiple texts.
Edit: Ah ok, you edited to indicate Isaiah 66.
How do you see the New Moon element of that?
Also, I have quoted it with the New Moon so what you are saying is not true.Like assembling on the new moon, which you are keen to leave out every time you quote it?
Rest in the ancient world. Rest is for work in the temple Understanding Genesis with John Walton - Resourcesוַיִּשְׁבֹּת֙ vai·yish·bot (shabath) means to cease, desist, rest.
That depends on if you're saying solemn assembly logistically or philosophically. Do you think it means everyone leaving their house to meet at the temple? Or do you think it means them all complying with the sabbath law as in coming together as a nation?
Rest in the ancient world. Rest is for work in the temple Understanding Genesis with John Walton - Resources
As post 119 points out --
Sunday at 2:30 PM #119
In the NT it meant everyone assembling at a "place of prayer" Acts 16 or in the synagogues Acts 13, Acts 17, Acts 18.
And in Canaan when everyone was dispersed people did come together for solemn assembly on Passover etc and could involve days of travel to do it.
But in the wilderness where everyone WAS already assembled around the "Tent of meeting" by the millions then they had a special case.
NASB
2 “Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘The Lord’s appointed times which you shall proclaim as holy convocations—My appointed times are these:
3 ‘For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a Sabbath of complete rest, a holy convocation. You shall not do any work; it is a Sabbath to the Lord in all your dwellings.
NIV
2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘These are my appointed festivals, the appointed festivals of the Lord, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies.
The Sabbath
3 “‘There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, a day of sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; wherever you live, it is a sabbath to the Lord.
God is working and we are resting.How does that fit in with God commanding the people to cease from doing any kind of work?
God is working and we are resting.
These key proof text verses seem to only work for you guys when they're edited.
"For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, a holy convocation. You shall not do any work; it is a sabbath to the Lord in all your dwellings."
In other words corporate compliance wherever they happen be at the time, rather than it meaning leaving their different dwelling places to all gather together.
Think of it along the same lines as the phrase "coming together as a nation".
rest and temple go hand and hand, God is asserting his authority over the creation when he does this he creates a place for us to be "fruitful and mulitply" or prosper. The sabbath command is part of that sovereignty God is asserting his authority over the creation. The command for us to rest is to stop being God and let God be God. let God rule.How does that fit in with God commanding the people to cease from doing any kind of work?
It means from month to month and doesn't change the meaning of from one Sabbath to another. We will for eternity be worshipping our Savior from Sabbath to Sabbath and month to month on God's chosen day. Some think when Jesus returns a month will be 28 days. While this is not stated in the bible, I have to agree.
no the sabbath, it clearly pointing to a future time. that is not now. i am not sure what how you are not seeing that.
Yes, it was talking about as a nation. However, there were times where they were to assemble before the Lord, in connection with these.
Exo 23:14 “Three times in the year you shall keep a feast to me.
Exo 23:15 You shall keep the Feast of Unleavened Bread. As I commanded you, you shall eat unleavened bread for seven days at the appointed time in the month of Abib, for in it you came out of Egypt. None shall appear before me empty-handed.
Exo 23:16 You shall keep the Feast of Harvest, of the firstfruits of your labor, of what you sow in the field. You shall keep the Feast of Ingathering at the end of the year, when you gather in from the field the fruit of your labor.
Exo 23:17 Three times in the year shall all your males appear before the Lord GOD.
The same phrase is used of in your dwelling places, which emphasizes that it does mean all the places they dwell (whether in the holy land inheritance or not), but clearly the phrasing regarding dwelling places does not rule out assembly.
Is your contention that assembly then is only clearly indicated when specified as above?
And has already been seen, assembly was happening, but you are indicating what is commanded, rather than practiced?
Also, I have quoted it with the New Moon so what you are saying is not true.
who says it is the new earth?I get the Sabbath part. I think it is quite possible we will assemble on the Sabbath and new moon in the new earth. However, this passage is quite complex and there are a number of elements I don't expect to be in the new earth. The promises are recast in literal terms in 2 Peter 3, and by John in Revelation, and not all the particulars match up. That suggests fulfilments in a different way due to failure to attain the period of covenant blessings promised to them, as they did not remain faithful.
But my question was that if you see this as future, what do you do with the new moon portion.
Because a new moon means monthWhy do you say it only means month to month when new moon was something they did as well?
Because it does not change the application or context. You seem to be really concerned about my postings. Do you have something specific you would like to address?I apologize that I missed that.
Why do you ever quote it without the whole verse?
new moon?I get the Sabbath part. I think it is quite possible we will assemble on the Sabbath and new moon in the new earth. However, this passage is quite complex and there are a number of elements I don't expect to be in the new earth. The promises are recast in literal terms in 2 Peter 3, and by John in Revelation, and not all the particulars match up. That suggests fulfilments in a different way due to failure to attain the period of covenant blessings promised to them, as they did t remain faithful.
But my question was that if you see this as future, what do you do with the new moon portion.
who says it is the new earth?
new moon?
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