Why do people hate Jews?

[Sphere]

Some people hate Jews for the same reasons they and/or others hate other people. Whether they hate Mexicans, Muslims, Blacks, Whites, Homosexuals or whomever. Hate always boils down to this:

Ignorance and stupidity. In good combination.

 

[rebelEnigma]

Seriously. I've never understood how thinking the Israeli government is corrupt can be seen as tantamount to hating Jewish people.

It's not. Cursing implies wishing harm or destruction upon someone. Saying that the Jewish leaders are corrupt (which they are) is 'hatred' is a deeply ignorant thing to say.

Fundamentalist Christians ... teach their kids to hate Jews.

Err.....?

 

[Waiting for the Verdict]

I'm an atheist, and even I would not claim that fundamentalist parents teach their kids to hate Jews. In fact, I strongly suspect anti-Semitism is less present among evangelicals than in the general populace.

Sorry guys, but that's anti-evangelical hatemongering, pure and simple. Its no more tolerable than stereotyping Jews, gays, or any other group.

 

[Arnold_Philips]

I think one of the main reasons is that they segregate themselves so strongly from society, which leads to ignorance and mistrust.

 

[shye]

people are just filled with hate

 

[SimplyMe]

I'm an atheist, and even I would not claim that fundamentalist parents teach their kids to hate Jews. In fact, I strongly suspect anti-Semitism is less present among evangelicals than in the general populace.

Sorry guys, but that's anti-evangelical hatemongering, pure and simple. Its no more tolerable than stereotyping Jews, gays, or any other group.

I don't think it is quite that simple. I think the support for Jews that you typically see from Fundamentalists is actually support for Israel. I think there views on the Jews as a people is much more complicated; I think it's often even something of a mix of feelings of both love (for being God's chosen people) and hate (for killing Christ and that they have still not accepted Christ, not to mention the fact that so many Jews are liberal -- especially when viewed from Fundamentalist's extreme conservative viewpoint).

 

[uberd00b]

Seriously. I've never understood how thinking the Israeli government is corrupt can be seen as tantamount to hating Jewish people.

It's just a convenient way to avoid the real issues.

 

[Ramona]

It's not. Cursing implies wishing harm or destruction upon someone. Saying that the Jewish leaders are corrupt (which they are) is 'hatred' is a deeply ignorant thing to say.

I'm sorry, what? I said that the government was corrupt. I didn't curse anyone. I didn't say that "Jewish leaders" are corrupt, and you, sir, have no right to call me hateful or ignorant over it. Supporting the war on terror is deeply ignorant IMO. Opposing gay marriage is deeply ignorant, IMO. This isn't a personal attack thread, and I'm insulted that you're trying to turn it into one.

You've just earned yourself a place on my ignore list. Have a nice life.

 

[spartacus1984]

of all the organized religions I've studied, When I read the Tanakh I'm actually moved to tears quite often (yes, I know how weird that sounds coming from an atheist )

"Happycat" what does the Talmud say about the murder of Jesus of Nazareth?

Jews who upholds the Talmud upholds the murder of Jesus of Nazareth. The Talmud speaks in glowing terms of the murder of Jesus of Nazareth, calling it a most just act.

According to the Talmud, Yeshua was the son of a Judahite woman named Mary who was betrothed to a carpenter.

"Betrothed" means she was legally married to him, but she was not yet living with him or having sexual relations with him.

According to the Talmud Mary was either raped by or voluntarily slept with Pandeira, a Greek or Roman soldier.

Mary than gave birth to Yeshua, who was considered a "mamzer" (bastard), a product of an adulterous relationship.

The Talmud describes Yeshua as a blasphemer who dabbled in sorcery and lead the people astray.

Later, the Sanhedrin ordered Yeshua stoned to death and his dead body was hung from a tree until nightfall after his death, in accordance with the ancient punishment for blasphemers.


link

http://www.come-and-hear.com/talmud/index.html

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"Happycat"
The swastika is an ancient symbol that has be use for thousands of years by millions of people. In antiquity, the swastika was used extensively by the Indo-Aryans, Hittites, Celts and Greeks, among others. In particular, the swastika is a sacred symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism — religions with millions of adherents worldwide, making the swastika ubiquitous in both historical and contemporary society. Recent discoveries have shown that Indus Valley Civilization also used the swastika symbol.
It occurs in other Asian, European, African and Native American cultures – sometimes as a geometrical motif, sometimes as a religious symbol.

 

[.Sabre.]

Well, I read the links.

Those reasons can be equally applied to Afro-Caribbeans, Asians, southern Europeans, northern Europeans, eastern Europeans....just about anybody.

I do not hate Jews. Nor do I hate Germans, Russians, or any other ethnic group. As a wise person once said in a thread(on another site), "Odin created all of Midgard, not just part of Midgard." I agree with that saying.

 

[Ramona]

I am really tired of this.

An anti-anti-semitism thread gets turned into a "bash Happycat_" thread. Another thread derailed and dedicated to attacking me. Lovely.

What is the point of your post, spartacus? The fact that the swastika was and is used as an auspicious symbol in Hinduism, Jainism, and sometimes Buddhism is nothing new to me. I've known that for awhile.

As for the part about Mary getting raped I don't see why you're picking on me as if I condone rape or something. I think the whole thing is a myth so I don't know what you want me to say about that, nor do I know why it was addressed to me.

Interesting faith icon, btw. Now I'm REALLY confused.

 

[AlanGurvey]

Noam chomsky once said that new anti semitism, fear of anti zionism, is a fake letting real anti semitism grow.

 

[Ramona]

Noam chomsky once said that new anti semitism, fear of anti zionism, is letting real anti semitism grow.

Thanks, Al.

 

[Sphere]

Disliking Israel has nothing do with with disliking Jews. One is a country, the other is a group of people. There is a difference, they are not one in the same, they are not synonymous. Just because someone dislikes the country, doesn't mean they dislike the people.

 

[Rochir]

Disliking Israel has nothing do with with disliking Jews.

Ditto!

One can be highly critical of Israelic politics, and even it's right to exist, without being an anti-semite!

 

[Waiting for the Verdict]

I don't think it is quite that simple. I think the support for Jews that you typically see from Fundamentalists is actually support for Israel. I think there views on the Jews as a people is much more complicated; I think it's often even something of a mix of feelings of both love (for being God's chosen people) and hate (for killing Christ and that they have still not accepted Christ, not to mention the fact that so many Jews are liberal -- especially when viewed from Fundamentalist's extreme conservative viewpoint).

I'm not saying its simple, but liberals are guilty of equal historical naivety when they claim evangelical support for Jews is solely based on dispensational eschatology. Among the evangelicals I know, the Holocaust is looked on with absolute horror. No evangelical I know hates Jews for 'killing Christ'. Evangelicals don't even envision Christ's death in that way. They look at the crucifixion basically as the people who killed Jesus just happened to be Jewish. The kind of "Christkiller" Anti-Semtism that existed in conservative European Protestantism simply doesn't exist anymore within evangelicalism. Frankly, I don't even think most evangelicals have any idea what politics Jews do or don't have.

I'm sorry, but I grew up in evangelical culture, and I can tell you from personal experience that anti-Semitism is virtually non-existent among the under thirties, and rare even in the older generation. Evangelicals are just as horrified by anti-Semitism as any other group. That being said, there are small pockets of fundamentalists that hold traditional anti-Semetic views, but they are completely marginalized by the evangelical mainstream.

Now, if you want to talk about anti-black views among evangelicals, then we might be in agreement, though even that is rapidly changing.

 

[SimplyMe]

I'm not saying its simple, but liberals are guilty of equal historical naivety when they claim evangelical support for Jews is solely based on dispensational eschatology.

I never said anything about liberals, or even conservatives for that matter. My post was strictly about Fundamentalists.

Among the evangelicals I know, the Holocaust is looked on with absolute horror. No evangelical I know hates Jews for 'killing Christ'. Evangelicals don't even envision Christ's death in that way. They look at the crucifixion basically as the people who killed Jesus just happened to be Jewish. The kind of "Christkiller"

I never said they didn't look on the holocaust with horror, much less that they hate the Jews. All I said it is that it wasn't that simple, that it's not hate it's a mixture of love and hate. As such, they are not typically anti-Jewish (though I can't say that they are not anti-Semite as many do appear to be anti-Arab).

Anti-Semtism that existed in conservative European Protestantism simply doesn't exist anymore within evangelicalism. Frankly, I don't even think most evangelicals have any idea what politics Jews do or don't have.

I'm sorry, but I grew up in evangelical culture, and I can tell you from personal experience that anti-Semitism is virtually non-existent among the under thirties, and rare even in the older generation. Evangelicals are just as horrified by anti-Semitism as any other group. That being said, there are small pockets of fundamentalists that hold traditional anti-Semetic views, but they are completely marginalized by the evangelical mainstream.

I think possibly much of the difference is that we are looking at it from a viewpoint of different generations.

Now, if you want to talk about anti-black views among evangelicals, then we might be in agreement, though even that is rapidly changing.

That would be a different topic but I would submit that it is more of a Southern problem.

 

[ReverendDG]

Ditto!

One can be highly critical of Israelic politics, and even it's right to exist, without being an anti-semite!

To claim a person is anti-semitic because they disagree with the actions of israel is a red herring, and trying to evade the real issues.
The fact is israel treats its nieghbors as badly as they treat israel, we just hardly ever hear about it on the news.

I think people equate disagreeing with israel with hating jewish people, is because they feel that the jewish people should have their own country, since they lost it so long ago, and some of them do believe that this will start the end times

people like to twist things though, the thing is the jewish people are invaders of palastine, england took it from the ottoman empire, then told the people that live there, "Well now we are going to let a bunch of people come and take over your land and push you off it"

 

[quatona]

Why does everyone hate the Jews so much more?

Does everyone hate the Jews?
And more than what/whom does everybody hate the Jews?

I personally feel a bit uneasy with the arrogance of the claim "We are God´s chosen people", but that is far from hate. The Jewish culture and religion, as far as I can tell, emphasizes its own specialness (or even superiority) and puts great value in being different from everything else.

Another problem I have is the poor definition of the term Jew. I never know whether it´s meant to be a religious, a tribal, a national, a cultural or a racial term (usually the term seems to be used for any of these concepts alternatively in short order) - and prominent persons who consider themselves Jews seem often to be willing to take any criticism in any of these respects for anti-semitism.
Whilst I personally am - due to its lack of clear definition - not really interested in using the category "Jew" I notice that it´s easy to say something that earns you the reproach of being anti-semitic (without even knowing what you actually are supposed to be against with).