Why do Muslims call to Islam? And why others must listen to them?

[Montalban]

Personaly I think people are to hard on muslims recently Me and my youthgroup were going on a trip and one of the leaders worked with this muslim couple and they had a house that was unocupied and the ofered to let us stay to save on a hotel and we were going to but most of the parents said that did not want there child in the house of a muslim! hate the sin not the sinner how are we going to convert muslims if we wont even get close enough to talk to them!

I think its nice that you've met some decent people. However don't confuse people for belief systems. When Islam is criticised, it is because it's teachings are wrong. (Setting a man as an example for human behaviour who slept with a child and ordered political deaths is clearly not good)

 

[let the bible speak]

http://www.copts.net/martyrs.asp

http://www.persecution.net/country/egypt.htm

http://www.kosovo.com/default2.html (anything on this site)

http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/memoryof.htm

Closer example; my good friend's relative martyred my muslim raiders in Syria for being Christian.

These are only (some of the) examples of Orthodox Christians alone killed my Muhammadans (I will not say muslim right now, I am too bitter, forgive me).

Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints

Justin

p.s. I would really appreciate it if you would wipe that sardonic smile off your posts when the topic of people being killed comes up, thanks.

I am sorry mate but I think it is really unjust to try and convince people your religion is the best and then tell lies about another.The truth of a religion brings in sympathisers not what the medai and others say about it.I have been seaching for the truth for a while and obviously like any body else i would not enter into a contract or anything else without knowing about it fully.Noew by telling others that muslims slaughtered but pretend christians never slaughtered is not a good way of promoting your faith.It would have been more christian of you to have put links of genocides from both sides and let the people judge for themselves. I have discussed this Issue with with many muslims. those people you are pointing as the bearers of Islam who went Around killing people in the name of Islam were actually people who although theirnames were muslims and looked like muslims but were not Muslims.My researches has brought me to understand that there are many things that can take a muslim out of Islam faster than he came in. If I am wrong here muslims pls correct me, but in Islam one is ordained to pray 5 times daily and if one abandons this commandment with is an obligation. He has apostated.
These people who went round Killing did not have Quran in one hand and Sword in the other.i checked the links you provide mate.Be fair these countries and those leaders mentioned were and still are corrupted, some are even masons and abhor Islam.Even the The ottoman empire came to a point when it was very corrupted,women and boose etc.So you cannot pin this on Islam this was people who apostated but loved fighting and Killing and whatever they did was seen as Islam because they practiced what was the minor Issues in Islam but neglected the major.One of your Links i read mentioned Turkey and Attatruk, what a laugh, it is sad how much misinfomed people are.Attaturk was an atheist. Nothing to do with islam he even took the Islam away from his people. Saddam Hussein was not an example of Islam.Most muslims I know hated his guts and could not wait to see the back of him.
So with all due respects mate, we cannot tell lies about a nation and expect people to hate them and come flocking to our religion.Actually I even checked upon how the muslims took spain. Not a single drop of Blood was spilt.
So my friend i think that even if my greatest enemy was right i will not tell a lie about him to make out he was wrong and expect others to beleive me too.
I think it would have been fair to add this link to yours and let the people Judge.
http://www.captiveminds.org/poli/genocide
Cya mate

 

[OrthodoxServant86]

Hello there letthebiblespeak,

I believe you must have misinterpreted what I posted those links for. I was not trying to "promote my religion as the best" and "tell lies about others," Caller had asked about incidents involving Muslims killing Christians, where religion was the issue. I gave examples, that is all, regardless of extenuating circumstances or who started it or whatnot.

In love and peace,

-Justin

 

[jarrol]

You know I was a missionary in an Islamic country until recently. And that article about the care given by missionaries being a soft overlay for a deeper evil is just silly.

Those people give there lives to work amongst these people. I was in a small country in Africa - living in a small mud brick home with solar lights and a water well... i was only there for 5 months but the people i was working with had been there for 14 years!!!

The people of Jarrol village (hence my name) loved these missionaries. And were always distressed when we had to leave for some reason.

And yes they do have ministries to the people... but you say you are called to spread Islam.... well Jesus himself gave us the command to go into the world and bring disciples of Christ. So don't judge them for spreading the Gospels.

Living in a country where 95% of its population is Muslim showed me a great deal about Islam. The Emaams were mean and cruel... one once tried to physically assault me... just because i walked into the government school - and Emaams did not care for their people like leaders should, they were always more worried about themselves.

I saw an underlying fear and anger in the heart of the Islamic way of life.

and honsestly it scared me.

 

[Paladin Dave]

And since there are other religion came after Christianity (I mean Islam),andother prophet came after Jesus (I mean prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him))​

So Christian must to listen to Muslim because it does not come from nothing rather many million Muslim followed it not from nothing.​

Moreover that the bible has been changed and it has a mix between God saying and people saying.​

Hey, guess what? We dont have to, becuase Jesus told us false prophets would be coming after him. So we would be doing exactly what he warns us not to do by following your religion. Looks like he saw Mohammed coming. Along with Mormonism, and several other cult leaders that I am too lazy to go look up...:o

 

[The_true_path]

Hey, guess what? We dont have to, becuase Jesus told us false prophets would be coming after him. So we would be doing exactly what he warns us not to do by following your religion. Looks like he saw Mohammed coming. Along with Mormonism, and several other cult leaders that I am too lazy to go look up...:o

Islam is the fastest religion growing up, so do you think all those people who follow it they follow a false prophet ??????!!!!!

 

[Paladin Dave]

Yes, you have captured the very essence of what I am saying, in response to how you claim we should all just drop our religion for yours. I dont care how many people believe in it, or how fast it is growing. Look at how fast Communism grew. Does that make it the right goverment type? I believe that you follow a false prophet that my religion has warned against ahead of time, so I must humbly decline from converting to it, for that reason and many others.

 

[morningstar2651]

Do you even have proof that Muhammad was a false prophet? Please cite evidence when making claims.

Blessed be.

 

[Paladin Dave]

Not any more than True Path has that I need to join Islam. He and all Muslims claim that Jesus was a prophet of God, so why arent they listening to his warnings? Why dont you ask him for some evidence too? I was really making a response to his claim. Please read the whole conversation next time, thank you.

 

[peaceful soul]

Islam is the fastest religion growing up, so do you think all those people who follow it they follow a false prophet ??????!!!!!

Generally speaking, most people who believe in false things do not know that it is false. They are often blinded by the goodness that comes from their encounter. They think that all things that appear to be good or work for them is a leading from God. Spritual things are far different to understand and to know than non-spiritual things.

Another thing about spiritual things is that you can not know if they are from God just by looking at their results.

 

[Bevlina]

Many people follow many things today. But with a prophet, we shall know them by their fruit I believe. The Fruit of the Holy Spirit. Love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, gentleness, faith, temperence. Against these qualities in the nature of a person, there is no law. Galations 5: 22-23.

 

[The_true_path]

Not any more than True Path has that I need to join Islam. He and all Muslims claim that Jesus was a prophet of God, so why arent they listening to his warnings? Why dont you ask him for some evidence too? I was really making a response to his claim. Please read the whole conversation next time, thank you.

This is my evidences, and give your evidence that prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) was a false prophet.

6. And (remember) when 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allâh unto you confirming the Taurât [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed . But when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammad ) came to them with clear proofs, they said: "This is plain magic." (Qur’an 61: 6)



157. Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e.Muhammad ) whom they find written with them in the Taurât (Torah) (Deut, xviii, 15) and the Injeel (Gospel) (John xiv, 16), - he commands them for Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm has ordained); and forbids them from Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief, polytheism of all kinds, and all that Islâm has forbidden); he allows them as lawful At-Taiyibât [(i.e. all good and lawful) as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods, etc.], and prohibits them as unlawful Al-Khabâ'ith (i.e. all evil and unlawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods, etc.), he releases them from their heavy burdens (of Allâh's Covenant), and from the fetters (bindings) that were upon them. So those who believe in him (Muhammad ), honour him, help him, and follow the light (the Qur'ân) which has been sent down with him, it is they who will be successful.(Qur’an 7:157)

Generally speaking, most people who believe in false things do not know that it is false. They are often blinded by the goodness that comes from their encounter. They think that all things that appear to be good or work for them is a leading from God. Spritual things are far different to understand and to know than non-spiritual things.

Another thing about spiritual things is that you can not know if they are from God just by looking at their results.

So you consider your self follow the truth ????!!!!!

Just logically if Jesus was a God or son of God tell me why he hid not protect himself from crucify on the cross !!!!!!?????
and don't tell me he did that for us, because if he was a God he can do that without sacrifices himself ??!!!!!

 

[Montalban]

I am sorry mate but I think it is really unjust to try and convince people your religion is the best and then tell lies about another.The truth of a religion brings in sympathisers not what the medai (sic) and others say about it.I have been searching for the truth for a while and obviously like any body else i would not enter into a contract or anything else without knowing about it fully.Noew by telling others that muslims slaughtered but pretend christians never slaughtered is not a good way of promoting your faith.

The ultimate straw-man! Who has denied that Christians weren't crusaders?

It would have been more christian of you to have put links of genocides from both sides and let the people judge for themselves.

What? To say that all people have killed?
For those of you who take a stance that you have a right to defend yourself, then you need know that the lands the Crusaders fought over had been stolen from them by Islam.

I have discussed this Issue with with many muslims. those people you are pointing as the bearers of Islam who went Around killing people in the name of Islam were actually people who although their names were muslims and looked like muslims but were not Muslims.

This is unintentionally funny. Yes, and they wore fake moustaches too!

My researches has brought me to understand that there are many things that can take a muslim out of Islam faster than he came in.

Yes, the truth can set you free.

If I am wrong here muslims pls correct me, but in Islam one is ordained to pray 5 times daily and if one abandons this commandment with is an obligation. He has apostated.

And in Christianity (at least in Orthodoxy) we are asked to pray more often than we breathe.
“Remember God more often than you breathe.”
(St. Gregory Nazianzus, +389)

These people who went round Killing did not have Quran in one hand and Sword in the other.i checked the links you provide mate.

You are in denial mode; akin to Holocause denial; insofar as there's so much evidence that to deny it is rather odd. The lands were once Christian. They were attcked by Islamic armies. Muhammed urged them to attack. He even gives instructions on how to deal with people conqeuored; how to treat them as second class-citizens; make them wear special clothing, pay special taxes, not try to get converts, not build new churches, be legally worth less than a Muslim... that's just those that weren't killed or enslaved outright!
See: "The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam" by Bat Ye'or

Be fair these countries and those leaders mentioned were and still are corrupted, some are even masons and abhor Islam.

Masons accept Muslims. They accept any male who professes a belief in a 'creator'.

Even the The ottoman empire came to a point when it was very corrupted,women and boose etc.

The 'women' issue is one allowed in Islam

So you cannot pin this on Islam this was people who apostated but loved fighting and Killing and whatever they did was seen as Islam because they practiced what was the minor Issues in Islam but neglected the major.One of your Links i read mentioned Turkey and Attatruk, what a laugh, it is sad how much misinfomed people are.Attaturk was an atheist. Nothing to do with islam he even took the Islam away from his people. Saddam Hussein was not an example of Islam.Most muslims I know hated his guts and could not wait to see the back of him.

Attaturk was a cynic, yes. He foresaw that a modern state would not sit well with Islam. However most of his followers were Muslim, and the Kurds weren't Turks, but co-religionists, and they joined in on attacks on Christians.

So with all due respects mate, we cannot tell lies about a nation and expect people to hate them and come flocking to our religion.Actually I even checked upon how the muslims took spain. Not a single drop of Blood was spilt.

You are kidding!
Here's a Muslim account...
"When Tarik landed, soldiers from Cordova came to meet him; and seeing the small number of his companions they despised him on that account. They then fought. The battle with Tarik was severe. They were routed, and he did not cease from the slaughter of them till they reached the town of Cordova. When Roderic heard of this, he came to their rescue from Toledo. They then fought in a place of the name of Shedunia, in a valley which is called this day the valley of Umm-Hakim [on July 11, 711, at the mouth of the Barbate river]. They fought a severe battle; but God, mighty and great, killed Roderic and his companions. Mugheyth Errumi, a slave of Welid, was then the commander of Tarik's cavalry. Mugheyth Errumi went in the direction of Cordova, Tarik passing over to Toledo. He, then, entered it, and asked for the table, having nothing else to occupy himself. This, as the men of the Bible relate, was the table of Suleyman Ibn Dawid, may the blessing of God be upon him."
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/conqspain.html
Sorry, mate, but you need seriously to check your sources. Alternatively, when making these statements, you should back them up with some research thus magically turning them from 'just-so' statements into something substantive.

 

[let the bible speak]

The ultimate straw-man! Who has denied that Christians weren't crusaders?

What? To say that all people have killed?
For those of you who take a stance that you have a right to defend yourself, then you need know that the lands the Crusaders fought over had been stolen from them by Islam.

This is unintentionally funny. Yes, and they wore fake moustaches too!

Yes, the truth can set you free.

And in Christianity (at least in Orthodoxy) we are asked to pray more often than we breathe.
“Remember God more often than you breathe.”
(St. Gregory Nazianzus, +389)

You are in denial mode; akin to Holocause denial; insofar as there's so much evidence that to deny it is rather odd. The lands were once Christian. They were attcked by Islamic armies. Muhammed urged them to attack. He even gives instructions on how to deal with people conqeuored; how to treat them as second class-citizens; make them wear special clothing, pay special taxes, not try to get converts, not build new churches, be legally worth less than a Muslim... that's just those that weren't killed or enslaved outright!
See: "The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam" by Bat Ye'or

Masons accept Muslims. They accept any male who professes a belief in a 'creator'.

The 'women' issue is one allowed in Islam

Attaturk was a cynic, yes. He foresaw that a modern state would not sit well with Islam. However most of his followers were Muslim, and the Kurds weren't Turks, but co-religionists, and they joined in on attacks on Christians.

You are kidding!
Here's a Muslim account...
"When Tarik landed, soldiers from Cordova came to meet him; and seeing the small number of his companions they despised him on that account. They then fought. The battle with Tarik was severe. They were routed, and he did not cease from the slaughter of them till they reached the town of Cordova. When Roderic heard of this, he came to their rescue from Toledo. They then fought in a place of the name of Shedunia, in a valley which is called this day the valley of Umm-Hakim [on July 11, 711, at the mouth of the Barbate river]. They fought a severe battle; but God, mighty and great, killed Roderic and his companions. Mugheyth Errumi, a slave of Welid, was then the commander of Tarik's cavalry. Mugheyth Errumi went in the direction of Cordova, Tarik passing over to Toledo. He, then, entered it, and asked for the table, having nothing else to occupy himself. This, as the men of the Bible relate, was the table of Suleyman Ibn Dawid, may the blessing of God be upon him."
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/conqspain.html
Sorry, mate, but you need seriously to check your sources. Alternatively, when making these statements, you should back them up with some research thus magically turning them from 'just-so' statements into something substantive.

[size=+2]Muslim Rule in Spain[/size]

Dr Abdur Rauf​

[size=+1][/size]
[size=+1][/size] [size=+1] Spain is the biggest country of Europe. It is a constitutional monarchy with Madrid as its capital. In Muslim history, Spain is also remembered by its two other names, Andulus and Hispania. Muslims ruled Spain with full grace and glory for about eight centuries. It is they who converted it into the most civilised and the most charming land in the world.[/size][size=+1] In 714 A.D. Spain was ruled by a tyrant Christian ruler, Roderick. An oppressed Christian chief, Julian, appeared before Musa Ibn Nusayr, the Muslim governor of North Africa, and complained about the lust, greed and tyranny of king Roderick. Musa felt sympathy for the oppressed Spaniards. He ordered his famed general, Tariq Ibn Ziyad to conquer Spain and to set things straight there. General Tariq sailed for Spain with an army of 12,000 men.[/size]
[size=+1]He anchored at a place around the Spanish coastal areas which later came to be known after his name as Jabl al-Tariq. It is presently called Gibraltar. Soon after landing General Tariq burnt all his ships so that his men may not think of returning or retreating. Due to his dare and determination Tariq defeated a far big and more well-equipped army of Roderick which consisted of more than 1,00,000 troops. Seated majestically on his splendid throne king Roderick had come to the battlefield with an aroma of great pomp and show. His troops were wearing brand new, glittering uniforms. They were all very well-equipped with all sorts of arms and ammunition. Immediately after his defeat the king fled away from the battlefield.[/size]
[size=+1] This is how the Muslim rule started in Spain in 714 A.D. The Spanish masses heaved a sigh of relief on getting liberated from the yokes of Roderick’s tyrannical rule. Some historians have stated that the Prophet Muhammad (sws) had foretold General Tariq in a dream about the victory of Spain.[/size]

 

[Bevlina]

So you consider your self follow the truth ????!!!!!

Just logically if Jesus was a God or son of God tell me why he hid not protect himself from crucify on the cross !!!!!!?????
and don't tell me he did that for us, because if he was a God he can do that without sacrifices himself ??!!!!!

Yes, we follow the truth. If Jesus had not died on the Cross, the prophecies would not have been fulfilled. Jesus was the Final Sacrifice, and the Cross, the final altar on earth. Yes, He did for that, for us.

 

[Montalban]

Muslim Rule in Spain
]Dr Abdur Rauf
Spain is the biggest country of Europe.

Wrong!
Russia is.
European Russia is situated in the western part of the country, occupying an area of 4,294,400 square kilometres, or about a quarter of the total area of the Russian Federation.
http://www.quasar.ualberta.ca/edit202/modules/module1/samplewebs/drees/Euro.htm
(In total, including Asia, Russia is
Area:total: 17,075,200 sq km
land: 16,995,800 sq km
water: 79,400 sq km
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rs.html)

compared to
Spain...
Area: total: 504,782 sq km
land: 499,542 sq km
water: 5,240 sq km
note: there are 19 autonomous communities including Balearic Islands and Canary Islands, and three small Spanish possessions off the coast of Morocco - Islas Chafarinas, Penon de Alhucemas, and Penon de Velez de la Gomera
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/sp.html

You could say "Spain is the largest nation wholly within Europe", but that's not what you said. Sorry. Although I don't know what the size of Spain has to do with anything, other than to give me an opportunity to show empirically you're source is wrong. Thanks, bud.

It is a constitutional monarchy with Madrid as its capital.

And?

In Muslim history, Spain is also remembered by its two other names, Andulus and Hispania. Muslims ruled Spain with full grace and glory for about eight centuries. It is they who converted it into the most civilised and the most charming land in the world.

Show me the 'test for charm' and we can compare if it was more charming than another nation.

In 714 A.D. Spain was ruled by a tyrant Christian ruler, Roderick. An oppressed Christian chief, Julian, appeared before Musa Ibn Nusayr, the Muslim governor of North Africa, and complained about the lust, greed and tyranny of king Roderick.Musa felt sympathy for the oppressed Spaniards. He ordered his famed general, Ta]riq Ibn Ziyad to conquer Spain and to set things straight there.

And? Even accepting this 'call for help', if the Moslems intended 'peace' why'd they send a general and an army.
By the way, I don't think you'll find Roderick ruled all Spain, but rather Spain was divided into many petty kingdoms; left-overs from the Germanic invasions.

General Tariq sailed for Spain with an army of 12,000 men.

Obviously they were armed with rubber bullets.

He anchored at a place around the Spanish coastal areas which later came to be known after his name as Jabl al-Tariq. It is presently called Gibraltar. Soon after landing General Tariq burnt all his ships so that his men may not think of returning or retreating. Due to his dare and determination Ta]riq defeated a far big and more well-equipped army of Roderick which consisted of more than 1,00,000 troops

You claimed in your previous post

Not a single drop of Blood was spilt.

(emphasis mine)
How did this happen?

Seated majestically on his splendid throne king Roderick had come to the battlefield with an aroma of great pomp and show. His troops were wearing brand new, glittering uniforms. They were all very well-equipped with all sorts of arms and ammunition. Immediately after his defeat the king fled away from the battlefield.

There comes a time when one can not have a reasoned debate, because one person wants to claim anything and everything.
As an apologist for Islam, you made the claim that not a single drop of blood was shed, and in the same thread you claim that some bloke lead an army, arrived in Spain and defeated another army... without any deaths?
"the King was killed in the battle of Guadalete"
http://www.icbh.org/topics/islam_in_spain.htm
I suppose he could have been suffocated (not a drop of blood spilt!) The Muslim army snuck up behind the Gothic one and suffocated them all!

This is how the Muslim rule started in Spain in 714 A.D. The Spanish masses heaved a sigh of relief on getting liberated from the yokes of Roderick’s tyrannical rule. Some historians have stated that the Prophet Muhammad ... had foretold General Tariq in a dream about the victory of Spain.

Show me the prophecy.

By the way, what's the fact that Spain is a constitutional monarchy got to do with your argument?

Also, successive Muslim waves attacked Spain over the centuries, and local Spanish Muslims often had to seek Christian protection; from great men such as El Cid.



In 722, at Covadonga, a small army under the Visigothic king Pelayo inflicted the first defeat on the Muslims. Symbolically, this battle marked the beginning of the Reconquista, the reconquest of Spain by the Christians.

 

[The_true_path]

Yes, we follow the truth. If Jesus had not died on the Cross, the prophecies would not have been fulfilled. Jesus was the Final Sacrifice, and the Cross, the final altar on earth. Yes, He did for that, for us.

Sorry bevlina, forgive my ignorance he couldn't do that without Sacrifice
The adjective of God is that God can do anything can he?

This true God is eternal, he does not die or change. Or crucify on the cross
Why he did not protect himself?!

 

[Montalban]

Yes, we follow the truth. If Jesus had not died on the Cross, the prophecies would not have been fulfilled. Jesus was the Final Sacrifice, and the Cross, the final altar on earth. Yes, He did for that, for us.

Well done, that's it exactly.

What he doesn't understand is the idea of someone doing something out of principle, rather than expediency. For Muhammed, when he was in Mecca and they threatened him, rather than stand up to them (even in peace), he fled!

Only when he had military power did he return, and not to just say "Hello", either

 

[Montalban]

Sorry bevlina, forgive my ignorance he couldn't do that without Sacrifice
The adjective of God is that God can do anything can he?

This true God is eternal, he does not die or change. Or crucify on the cross
Why he did not protect himself?!

The true God made a promise of salvation to the Jews. He is the Lamb of God who takes away the Sins of the world.

Jesus was God and Man. The God part did not die. The man part suffered death and was buried and on the third day rose in accordance with the Scriptures.

An Orthodox perpective is that He had to take flesh, to redeem flesh. To show us how to live as perfect people.

Odd that you argue for an absolute (unchanging) and yet you guys argue for relativism when it comes to the morals of your prophet.

 

[let the bible speak]

http://www.san.beck.org/AB16-Franks613-899.html#2

West and the Role of the Christian Church

Matthew Geijels​

By way of introduction, I like to make a few remarks about this subject for it is so vast.



Islam in the West
Islam has four faces. Islam can be seen as the self-realization of the Arab Nation, as a great monotheistic religion, as a body politic, and as a civilization.1 I will deal with all these ‘faces’, but especially with Islam as a great monotheistic religion and as a body politic. Moreover, Islam can be divided into three majority groups: the Sunnis, the Shiites (the latter comprising the Zaydi, Isma‘ili and the Imamiyyah) and the Extremists: the Druzes, the Nusayri and others. Since about 85% of all Muslims are Sunnis, most of the expansion in the West was undertaken by Sunni Muslims.

Role of the Christian Church
In Christianity there are many churches. I mention the largest denominations: the Roman Catholic Church, the Orthodox (Eastern) Churches, the Lutheran, Calvinist, Anglican and Presbyterian Churches. With regard to the Roman Catholic Church, I shall refer to the Pontifical Council for Inter-Religious Dialogue (formerly called the Secretariat for Non-Christians) and with regard to the other Churches I shall refer to the sub-Unit of Dialogue with People of Living Faiths and Ideologies of the World Council of Churches, which represents very many, if not all, of the churches of the Reformation.

Conquest
Between 643 and 683, the Arab Muslims conquered the whole of North Africa. The western part they called the Maghrib (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia) and the eastern part Ifriqiyyah (Libya, Tripolitania, Egypt). Islam in the West
When we say ‘Islam in the West’, we can think of Islam in southern Europe (Spain), Islam in western Europe (England), Islam in eastern Europe (Turkey, the Balkans, Russia) and Islam in central Europe (France, Belgium, Germany, the Netherlands). It is not possible to deal with all these topics. I have decided to take two topics: Islam in southern Europe and Islam in central Europe, with special reference to the Netherlands. a. Islam in Southern Europe2
i. The Muslims in Al-Andalus (Moorish Spain)
At the turn of the seventh century, the Visigoth Kingdom in Europe (the present Spain) was in decay. Troupes of Berbers, led by Arab commanders, used to cross the strait between the Maghrib and al-Andalus to raid the country. In 711, Musa Ibn Nusayr decided to try an attack. He did not go himself, but sent one of this lieutenants, Tariq Ibn Ziyad. The question of Tariq’s existence is a matter of discussion. But even if he did not exist, somebody must have been sent. Tariq landed at Gibraltar (the same is derived from Jabl Tariq (mountain of Tariq). The Visigoth King Rodrigo received a crushing defeat at the hands of the Muslims. Having captured Cordoba with difficulty, Tariq pushed on to the capital Toledo, which he easily conquered. Then he proceeded to Saragossa.
In 712, Musa entered al-Andalus with an army and via Merida and Talavera met Tariq at Saragossa. From there, both went westwards; Tariq to Astarga and Musa to Gijon. Thus, in lightning speed, the Moors (Arab-Berber Muslims) conquered practically the whole of al-Andalus. From the North they crossed the Pyrenees to make raids into France. In 732, they got nearly as far as the river Loire, but were stopped and put to flight by Charles Martel at a place in between Poitiers and Tours. For the Moors, the march was only a raid: for the Christians the victory a great feat and the beginning of the Reconquista, the recapture of al-Andalus. The presence of the Muslims in al-Andalus was to last almost eight centuries, from 712 to 1492.

http://www.renaissance.com.pk/Octvipo2y3.html