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Before I answer that, a question.
Do you believe that if I sinned against HaShem, all I had to do was bring an animal to be sacrificed to the Temple and I was forgiven? That it was a magic charm and I could just go right back to sinning without any repentance and plan on bringing a new animal next week?
No same as being a Christian, you must turn towards God, repent.
So we have established that the death of the animal was not the animal dying for the sins of the person, because if it was it would have been a magic charm. The sacrifices were a symbol of the internal change required. It was you giving up something you own in order to be forgiven.
Also, you must remember that the very poor could use grain instead of any living creature.
No you asked - if I sinned against HaShem, all I had to do was bring an animal to be sacrificed to the Temple and I was forgiven
You had o repent and bring an animal to be sacrificed to the Temple.
They are not going to be dying for people's sin because sin in Buddhism is not the central human problem, ignorance is. But certainly the notion of self-sacrifice is there.
Bodhisatvas are Buddha-type figures who have taken a vow *not* to enter Nirvana until all sentient beings have gone before them. In other words they condemn themselves to eternal rebirth (a fate worse than death in Buddhism) in order to save everyone. In a number of their past lives they are said to sacrifice themselves to save others. For instance, one of the Jataka Tales speaks of how Avalokiteshvara in one of his past lives was the monkey king. When his tribe of monkeys was being chased by lion they came to a ravine to wide to jump. Avalokiteshvara stretch his body out over the ravine so the monkeys could cross to safety. After they did so, Avalokiteshvera could not get up and fell himself into the ravine.
David didn't have to bring a sacrifice when he sinned. He admitted his sin and was forgiven. This is confirmed in the Psalms when David writes that if a sacrifice was desired, David would have brought one.
So, we see which was the more important of the two elements. One could not obtain forgiveness without repentance but one could obtain it without the sacrifice. Also, you are glossing over the fact that grain could be used if a person were poor. How does grain fit into your ideas? (and despite what some Christians claim, it was not mixed with the blood)
There are no sacrifices listed in the Torah for intentional sins, unless you'd like to find it for me.What sacrifices does God require for adultery and murder?
Of course GOD does not want sacrifices, he desires that we not sin to begin with.
There are no sacrifices listed in the Torah for intentional sins, unless you'd like to find it for me.
You are turning what I said on its head. David was not required to bring sacrifices and Nathan said that HaShem would remember his sin no more.
You are also incorrect. Not all sacrifices were sin sacrifices and HaShem did, indeed, want them.
I know all sacrifices are not sin sacrifices. Whether a sin offering or not God wants us near, in a relationship with him. The sacrifice is a way to have communion God, a way to show gratitude to God, a contrite heart before God, makes amends for what we cause - distance from God.
It can do that but repentance can do the same thing, as you are basically quoting the Psalm I would use to show this. My point remains:
We see examples of a sacrifice plus repentance bringing atonement.
We see examples of repentance alone bringing atonement.
We never see examples of sacrifice alone bringing atonement.
Even so, the Tanach specifically states that one person cannot die for the sins of another and that they must pay for their own sins. That is explicitly stated in the text. You may wish to bring up the sacrifices if you desire, but you have to contend with the text and not me on that point. You also still haven't answered how the grain offering for the poor fits into your view of something dying for the sins of the person.
Concerning the grain issue - We know from the episode with Abraham and Isaac that God allows substitutes.
If not for Jesus I as a Gentile would not be in a relationship with God today.
Jews are atheists and a race of psychopaths.
Have you ever even held a biology book in your hands, man?"while we're at it, skin colour tells you virtually nothing about a person's genetic heritage, either."
Do you realize you are simply parroting Jew media slogans?
Right back at ya! There's a reason why scientific racism has been dead for nearly seventy years, and conspiracies have got nothing to do with it.Learn to think for yourself, please!
Double facepalm.In anycase no one avoids blacks and mexicans because of their color.
Its all about their negative, animalistic, predatory savage criminal behavior for why we sensible people avoid them.
Their skin color is only useful in the same way the black and yellow stripes on a bee are useful ie as an early warning sign that a dangerous animal approaches and you better get the hell out of the way if you don't want to be stung.
Don't want to be robbed, raped or murdered?
When you see a black or brown creature coming your way whether it be a bear, mexican or a black you get out of there or accept the consequences.
Jews are atheists and a race of psychopaths.
Their religion Judaism is only one of their many masks to cover their status as a race and people.
This may be the first time I've actually used the report feature on this website.
-CryptoLutheran
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