Why do intellectually superior humans have around 7,000 distinct languages?

[Kenny'sID]

Not sure we are allowed to question people's religion here.

Did i do that?

 

[Kenny'sID]

So you have no evidence outside of a story in the Bible. Could have just said so.

"Say so" what? Where did I make that claim? Honestly, this is a relatively short conversation and it seems you are lost already.

Not only that, still no proof of your claim?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

"Say so" what? Where did I make that claim? Honestly, this is a relatively short conversation and it seems you are lost already.

Not only that, still no proof of your claim?

I think you're honestly being deliberately obtuse in your comments and it's starting to get grating.
I asked you if you had evidence of the tower of Babel that wasn't in the Bible.
You then asked me to show that my claim was right, which I actually can since there is no evidence of the tower of Babel existing. But I also asked you for evidence, outside of the Bible, for the tower of Babel existing.

You then replied: "No sense in repeating myself."

Which I took as a clear admission that you don't have any extra-Biblical evidence for the tower of Babel existing.

If either one of us was the lost one, it certainly was you.

 

[Kenny'sID]

I think you're honestly being deliberately obtuse in your comments and it's starting to get grating.
I asked you if you had evidence of the tower of Babel that wasn't in the Bible.
You then asked me to show that my claim was right, which I actually can since there is no evidence of the tower of Babel existing. But I also asked you for evidence, outside of the Bible, for the tower of Babel existing.

You then replied: "No sense in repeating myself."

Which I took as a clear admission that you don't have any extra-Biblical evidence for the tower of Babel existing.

If either one of us was the lost one, it certainly was you.

I'm aware of all that, and it changes nothing from my last reply to you. If you have a problem with my replies, i suggest you stop asking for them.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I'm aware of all that, and it changes nothing from my last reply to you. If you have a problem with my replies, i suggest you stop asking for them.

You're right. I'll put you back on ignore then.

 

[dad]

But let's be real: even the real Tower of Babel stood zero chance of ever reaching space, or heaven.

I disagree. I suspect there used to be a spirit being level up around where clouds are in that area. After all, sons of god used to marry women and live here. It seems to me that whatever changes happened in nature affected this, so that now any spiritual elements are quite separate. Now it would make no sense at all to build a tower sky high in hopes this would get us closer to spirits. Then, it seems it made sense. Something changed.

 

[dad]

The ignorance in this thread is astounding.

We know how languages formed and their history. Invoking magic to explain it is just plain stupid.

You know nothing of the foolish sort.

 

[dad]

Says you. So... got any evidence of the Tower of Babel existing? Yes or no?

It is silly to ask for evidence for things beyond the reach of manscience. You have either a belief that God is a liar or a belief that He told the truth. Save evidence for things it pertains to. Since you have none for your belief, let us stop the hypocritical act.

 

[dad]

I'll give you a polite golf-clap for the pun, but I don't take the story of the Tower of Babel as anything more than allegory of ignorant people who didn't know better.

Since honesty is of value here, I don't take the beliefs of those doubting the story of the Tower of Babel as anything more than biased beliefs of ignorant people who don't know better.

 

[dad]

Then I think you misunderstand the Bible that you are discrediting. The Bible never says the tower actually completed. God struck it down while it was still being built. For all we know, they might never have completed the second story. Frankly, the whole thing was an act of folly from the start, on multiple levels (like that pun I did there?).

As for the world speaking one single language, common sense says there was. Start with two human beings. How many languages do you think they spoke?

For all we know it could have been 93.007% finished.

 

[dad]

Did i do that?

Yes, the guy stated his religious beliefs

"The only thing we know for sure is that there was no Tower of Babel." And you asked for proof

 

[RDKirk]

If men in ancient Mesopotamia had decided to build a tower to the heavens--and I suspect that really was the intent of one or more of those ziggurats, because that's the way humans are--there is no reason to think they actually got very high with one before for one reason or another the building stopped.

There's no reason to think that God--knowing their intention--would necessarily let it get very high.

But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this...."

This suggests they had just gotten started.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

It is silly to ask for evidence for things beyond the reach of manscience. You have either a belief that God is a liar or a belief that He told the truth. Save evidence for things it pertains to. Since you have none for your belief, let us stop the hypocritical act.

Since honesty is of value here, I don't take the beliefs of those doubting the story of the Tower of Babel as anything more than biased beliefs of ignorant people who don't know better.

... wow. Pot calling the kettle black much.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Yes, the guy stated his religious beliefs

"The only thing we know for sure is that there was no Tower of Babel." And you asked for proof

No, that's not a religious belief in the slightest. You have an INCREDIBLY skewed view of what counts as a 'religious belief'.
I accept that we need to breath to survive. Is that a religious belief too?

 

[dad]

If men in ancient Mesopotamia had decided to build a tower to the heavens--and I suspect that really was the intent of one or more of those ziggurats, because that's the way humans are--there is no reason to think they actually got very high with one before for one reason or another the building stopped.

There's no reason to think that God--knowing their intention--would necessarily let it get very high.

But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this...."

This suggests they had just gotten started.

Could be, but the chapter refers to it as a tower. That seems to suggest it was...a tower.

5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

So there was a city and a tower and we don't really know what is referred to by this they begin to do. It could mean the tower was almost done and the city still had a ways to go! We don't know.

Looking at history and the bible it does see like God tends to let people's cup of iniquity be full before lowering the boom.

 

[dad]

No, that's not a religious belief in the slightest. You have an INCREDIBLY skewed view of what counts as a 'religious belief'.
I accept that we need to breath to survive. Is that a religious belief too?

We all can see we have breath. What we cannot see is miles under the earth and the remains..or not..of a tower.

 

[dad]

... wow. Pot calling the kettle black much.

Not at all. You may have, and do have and are entitled to your beliefs. We all should be able to see you have no hope in heaven or hell of proving or supporting your belief that the bible was lying.

 

[VirOptimus]

You know nothing of the foolish sort.

Keep on fighting reality! Its hilarious.

 

[dad]

Keep on fighting reality! Its hilarious.

Keep claiming you know where languages originated. Your religion counts too.

 

[usexpat97]

For all we know it could have been 93.007% finished.

There's no way. The goal was to reach the heavens. I"d be surprised it would have reached even the Eiffel Tower if they had met 100% of their original forecast.