Why Do Christians Want Creationism Taught In Public Schools?

[Arikay]

Then isn't it nice that evolution never says you can't choose God?

 

[wardpossy]

If you want to believe in half truths and uneducated humans {compared to God} That is your choice, Thats why he made heaven & hell

 

[Arikay]

1) Where does it say that believing in evolution is a salvation issue?
2) Why are you using a computer which is made by uneducated humans?

If you want to believe in half truths and uneducated humans {compared to God} That is your choice, Thats why he made heaven & hell

 

[wardpossy]

1) Where does it say that believing in evolution is a salvation issue?
2) Why are you using a computer which is made by uneducated humans?

Well it only has to be mentioned that God Allows anything and all things that happen , that doesnt mean its all for good, And I built my own computer system
so Ill skip that issue, Evolution has SOME good points but is terrible wrong in alot of areas, That will be found out for yourself in time

 

[Mechanical Bliss]

The breath you are taking right now God has given you

No, not really. Photosynthetic plants and gravity provide me with the opportunity for my necessary respiration. There's nothing supernatural about it.

, wordly people will fail use, God never will, my point is this , Id rather my children to grow up knowing him then giving them a one way ticket to a place I want no one to evey see, Common since tells me the person giving me each breath is whom I should chose.

Jeff

It's the same old song...

Evolution does not equal atheism.

Evolution has SOME good points but is terrible wrong in alot of areas, That will be found out for yourself in time

It's often interesting when creationists who demonstrate their ignorance with respect to these subjects tell other people more acquainted with the relevant sciences what's "wrong" and what other people will eventually find out in time.

 

[Arikay]

1) You still didn't explain if belief in evolution can send people to hell like you inferred.

2) Wow, you built your computer system. You mean you made the chips, the harddrive, the monitor, the boards. You did all the research that has led from the discovery of electricity to the silicon transistor and magnetic/optical storage?
You may have put together your computer but you are using parts and technology produced by uneducated humans. The research that went into the development of this technology is based on the same principles as the research that went into the development of the theory of evolution (and the development of evolution simulations that have developed parts for other products, such as the boeing 777).

To predict a response:
The same principles that have been used to develop the history of evolution are used to put criminals behind bars.

Well it only has to be mentioned that God Allows anything and all things that happen , that doesnt mean its all for good, And I built my own computer system
so Ill skip that issue, Evolution has SOME good points but is terrible wrong in alot of areas, That will be found out for yourself in time

 

[Riddick]

Maybe a little comparison would help?

Humans and gorillas are both apes.

Housecats and lions are both cats.

i meow to my cat, so i think i'm related more to the cat.

 

[Riddick]

No, not really. Photosynthetic plants and gravity provide me with the opportunity for my necessary respiration. There's nothing supernatural about it.

It's the same old song...

Evolution does not equal atheism.

It's often interesting when creationists who demonstrate their ignorance with respect to these subjects tell other people more acquainted with the relevant sciences what's "wrong" and what other people will eventually find out in time.

it's often interesting when evolutionists demonstrate their prowess in a given science(s), yet can still be wrong.

 

[Riddick]

Why do Christians want creationism taught in public schools? (2) Or "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? (3) Or, "In God We Trust" on currency? What purpose do the above serve? How do the above benefit the country?

(1) because we like progressive/alternative theories presented
(2),(3) it's not that we want them, it's that we don't see the need to be ***l and remove them

 

[SnowBear]

(1) because we like progressive/alternative theories presented
(2),(3) it's not that we want them, it's that we don't see the need to be ***l and remove them

progressive???

 

[Pete Harcoff]

(1) because we like progressive/alternative theories presented

But... there aren't any.

 

[Randall McNally]

it's often interesting when evolutionists demonstrate their prowess in a given science(s), yet can still be wrong.

And one of these days, it might even be a creationist who demonstrates the evolutionist's error.

 

[corvus_corax]

Why do Christians want creationism taught in public schools?

Because they believe in their version of Creationism. Which is fine, they can believe whatever they want, but it shouldnt be presented as a Scientific Theory.

They say they want Creationism to have "Equal Time" with Evolution.
But if we give equal time to Christian Creationism, then we must also give equal time to Navaho Creationism, Asatru Creationism, Mesopotamina Creationism, Egyptian Creationism etc etc etc etc.

Does anybody see the problem with that?

 

[wardpossy]

No, not really. Photosynthetic plants and gravity provide me with the opportunity for my necessary respiration. There's nothing supernatural about it.



It's the same old song...

Evolution does not equal atheism.



It's often interesting when creationists who demonstrate their ignorance with respect to these subjects tell other people more acquainted with the relevant sciences what's "wrong" and what other people will eventually find out in time.

But it is still as I said, ONLY because God ALLOWS it

 

[xMinionX]

And I built my own computer system
so Ill skip that issue,

 

[placebo2]

The breath you are taking right now God has given you, wordly people will fail use, God never will, my point is this , Id rather my children to grow up knowing him then giving them a one way ticket to a place I want no one to evey see, Common since tells me the person giving me each breath is whom I should chose.

Jeff

Is your post a reason why Creationism should be taught in public schools? Or, is it something you just had to get off your chest?

 

[placebo2]

You would think that the public classroom is the only place capable of teaching Creationism/ID the way that some people carry on. For those of you that do want it taught in our public schools ... why can't it be taught in your churches? It appears to be the proper setting, and it doesn't take much time. A few minutes for Creationists as they could just read a few verses out of the Bible. End of lesson. A few seconds for Intelligent Design people as they could just say: "All this life and stuff that you see on earth, it's so complex it must have had an intelligent designer. We know only God is that smart. Therefore, God created everything. Case Closed!"

It's the perfect solution. It doesn't take much thinking. Just some serious believing. And who wants to think in church anyway? You're all pumped up emotionally, singing and chanting. Everybody is all agreeable and just having a good ole time. You're just oozing faith. The conditions are ripe for teaching the message. This would also solve the problem of the different interpretations of the Creation by different churches. Each church would of course teach its own version. And the best part is that it would bury all that complicated and messy evolution and science jibberish in the classroom where nobody remembers anything anyway.

The solution was so obvious. Sometimes you just have to step back from a problem and take a fresh look. End of conflict. Problem Solved!

Second Issue: I've asked this before with little response, but let me try again. How does the country benefit from the phrase "under God" in the pledge, and "In God We Trust" on our currency? Has it made the country stronger, safer, more moral, or better in any way? Conversely, if the above phrases were removed how would the country suffer? Would we fall into moral decay? Would crime run rampant? What are all the bad things that would happen? I can tell you that I have asked this in other threads and the silence has been deafening. I'm starting to think that there are no benefits. If that's the case, then why all the fuss?

 

[jesusfreak3786]

Do you think that penicillin is just a theory? Or that light bulb that lets you see at night? Or that television that entertains and informs you? Or that tractor, and pesticide, and insecticide that lets one man produce enough to feed one hundred men?

Science isn't the creation of every element that makes up the drug penicillin, it's the explination of the already created elements. Same goes for anything in the world including the other things you metioned.

Do you want creationism taught alongside evolution in science class? Or do you want it taught in a comparative religion class?

Either one doesn't bother me, kid's need to be tought objectivly, and in a non- baist nature in most cases to develop thier own personal conviction.

Do you feel that the government and the schools exist to further your religious beliefs? Or, do you think that the government and the schools should exist to benefit all citizens? What prevents you from exposing your own children to your religious views? Can't you accomplish this without the government's assistance?

Ditto, right back at you, concerning your belief in evolution.

 

[jesusfreak3786]

If the notion of valid science being taught in science class is irrelevant to you, your opinion carries little weight in this matter.

That would be true, if infact that is what I implied with that statement, but it's not. There is no way to prove beyond question, the science that is taught in our schools, that is why I wrote what I wrote.

Creationism has been disproved and is thus not valid science and would amount to teaching a lie, and teaching creationism in public school would violate the first amendment of the U.S. constitution.

Teaching a lie....thats a matter of opinion, just like the accuracy of the science that is taught, I don't see the diffrence. As far as the first amendment, seperation between church and state was founded to avoid the church taking over the gov., like the spanish inquisition, not to stop the schools from teaching the broad spectrum.

 

[Mechanical Bliss]

That would be true, if infact that is what I implied with that statement, but it's not. There is no way to prove beyond question, the science that is taught in our schools, that is why I wrote what I wrote.

That's exactly what you imply when you reply to someone who said evolution is taught in science classrooms "because it is science" with the quip that that reasoning is irrelevant. The fact that it is science is the only thing that's relevant here.

Teaching a lie....thats a matter of opinion,

No, that's not a matter of opinion. Creationism has been conclusively disproved, so teaching it as valid would be in fact teaching a lie.

just like the accuracy of the science that is taught,

Accuracy is not a matter of opinion either. It's a matter of statistical probability.

I don't see the diffrence.

Yes, that is quite clear. That is a function of the fact that you don't seem to know what science is, how it works, and why science classes should teach science.

As far as the first amendment, seperation between church and state was founded to avoid the church taking over the gov., like the spanish inquisition, not to stop the schools from teaching the broad spectrum.

What "broad spectrum?" There is no scientific explanation that competes with the theory of evolution. The only reason people want creationism taught in schools is because they want their religion to be endorsed. That is a violation of the first amendment.