Why do Christians use the fallacious practice of selective observation?

[Cieza]

Why do Christians resort to the fallacious practice of selective observation to sell their religion to others? Cherry picking (fallacy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You'll hear them tell about how someone suffering from an illness who was prayed for got cured, but you won't hear them tell you about all the ill people who were prayed for who didn't get cured. It's not that much different from the multi level marketing recruiters who tell you about the two or three people who made a million dollars but don't tell you about the million people who lost money.

 

[maizer]

Well, either they got healed and we are all happy to spend more time with that person. Or else he/she is with God and we'll see them sometime.

My wifes former housemate/landlord is actually in the last stages of cancer. Doctor told her to eat anything she would like and to have fun. She actually called last week saying she was moving in with her daughter and wanted to know if we wanted anything. Despite our prayers, we are sad to see her go, but are thankful for what she has done for us, and know that she'll see her husband soon.

I think I would be much more sad if this happens to someone I'm more close to. I know this probably doesn't answer your question, but God seems to bring comfort or joy after sadness either way.

 

[Cieza]

Well, either they got healed and we are all happy to spend more time with that person. Or else he/she is with God and we'll see them sometime.

Why is it only dead people can be with God?
How can we see other dead people after we are dead?

My wifes former housemate/landlord is actually in the last stages of cancer. Doctor told her to eat anything she would like and to have fun. She actually called last week saying she was moving in with her daughter and wanted to know if we wanted anything. Despite our prayers, we are sad to see her go, but are thankful for what she has done for us, and know that she'll see her husband soon.

How can a dead person see another dead person?
What evidence is there that dead people can see?

I think I would be much more sad if this happens to someone I'm more close to. I know this probably doesn't answer your question, but God seems to bring comfort or joy after sadness either way.

This sounds to me to be a clever rationalization to avoid one's fear of death. Is that the difference between Christians and non-Christians? That Christians are so afraid of death that they need to come up with a clever rationalization, while non-Christians don't?

 

[maizer]

Why is it only dead people can be with God?
How can a dead person see another dead person?
What evidence is there that dead people can see?

This sounds to me to be a clever rationalization to avoid one's fear of death. Is that the difference between Christians and non-Christians? That Christians are so afraid of death that they need to come up with a clever rationalization, while non-Christians don't?

Heaven, of course And before you ask, yes I have no proof, and yes I might as well believe in unicorns. I'll see you in heaven one day.

As for death, not sure how different it is from person to person, but personally for me yes, the thoughts of heaven does bring a lot of comfort. Though the sadness and grief is still very very tough.

 

[solarwave]

Why do Christians resort to the fallacious practice of selective observation to sell their religion to others? Cherry picking (fallacy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You'll hear them tell about how someone suffering from an illness who was prayed for got cured, but you won't hear them tell you about all the ill people who were prayed for who didn't get cured. It's not that much different from the multi level marketing recruiters who tell you about the two or three people who made a million dollars but don't tell you about the million people who lost money.

Isn't this a human problem rather than a Christian one? Why do you cherry pick Christians out here?

I admit that I do that with the subject of healing, but why wouldn't I? I accept some people don't get healed and I expect the person I'm talking to knows that too. If someone has actually been healed then they have been healed regardless of whether someone else wasn't or not. I'm not saying that it isn't an issue that some people aren't healed though.

 

[Cieza]

Heaven, of course And before you ask, yes I have no proof, and yes I might as well believe in unicorns. I'll see you in heaven one day.

As for death, not sure how different it is from person to person, but personally for me yes, the thoughts of heaven does bring a lot of comfort. Though the sadness and grief is still very very tough.

What evidence is there to suggest that we have eyesight after we die?
Are you aware that regardless of whether or not heaven exists, you are using the concept to bring you a certain form of comfort which you wouldn't have if you couldn't conceive of heaven. Do you not see this as a rationalization to help you avoid the fear of death?

If I read into this a bit further, I see that the only difference between Christians and atheists is that Christians have a fear of death for which they need some sort of rationalization, while atheists don't.

 

[maizer]

What evidence is there to suggest that we have eyesight after we die?
Are you aware that regardless of whether or not heaven exists, you are using the concept to bring you a certain form of comfort which you wouldn't have if you couldn't conceive of heaven. Do you not see this as a rationalization to help you avoid the fear of death?

It does help when we are dealing with death, yes. It does make me feel thankful and more at peace.

If I read into this a bit further, I see that the only difference between Christians and atheists is that Christians have a fear of death for which they need some sort of rationalization, while atheists don't.

Well, heaven does bring some level of comfort, but I don't think it was born out of the need to rationalize death. Tempting as it may be to label it so. Strangely enough, there is very very little mention of what heaven is actually like. If someone simply created heaven because they were scared of death, wouldn't they fill in the details of what heaven is like with their own fantasies?

But if, for the sake of argument these generalizations are true, then yes atheists do not need a rationalization, and maybe are stronger mentally. I am honestly happy if atheists can experience death of loved ones without too much suffering or pain.

 

[salida]

God does things according to His will-not ours. He knows what it takes to become more like Him spiritually-getting instantly healed doesn't always accomplish Gods perfect will for ones life. This world is like the dressing room for heaven.

The scripture from below is from the apostle paul-he didn't get healed.
2Co 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

Apostles paul's answer from God:
1Pe 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

What trials do in a christians life:

1Pe 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ.
1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you.

I don't know why you ran into cherry picking christians.

God brings comfort through the Holy Spirit but unbelievers have no idea what it means because they haven't experienced it.

 

[salida]

Theres evidence but would you believe it? Probably not because you don't want to.
Actually, secular evidence is a secondary source because the bible is the most accurate history book.

Historical Accuracy
The bible is loaded with historical statements concerning events hundreds of years ago and has not
been proven incorrect in any.
(Bible compared to other ancient documents):
New Testament starts - at 25 years between original and first surviving copies
Homer - starts at 500 years
Demosthenes - at 1400 years
Plato - at 1200 years
Caesar - at 1000 years

9/10 times when I get a secular source the responses are-I'm not impressed, etc. etc.-I'm not here to impress but share info to those who truly want to know. How and what a person decides doesn't affect me at all.

 

[SkyWriting]

Why do Christians resort to the fallacious practice of selective observation to sell their religion to others? Cherry picking (fallacy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaYou'll hear them tell about how someone suffering from an illness who was prayed for got cured, but you won't hear them tell you about all the ill people who were prayed for who didn't get cured. It's not that much different from the multi level marketing recruiters who tell you about the two or three people who made a million dollars but don't tell you about the million people who lost money.

You THINK it's limited to Christians and not something you do.
One guess why.

No further comment.

 

[drich0150]

Why do Christians resort to the fallacious practice of selective observation to sell their religion to others? Cherry picking (fallacy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You'll hear them tell about how someone suffering from an illness who was prayed for got cured, but you won't hear them tell you about all the ill people who were prayed for who didn't get cured. It's not that much different from the multi level marketing recruiters who tell you about the two or three people who made a million dollars but don't tell you about the million people who lost money.

One can ask you the same. It seems you have only "cherry picked" the part of Christianity that point to the existence of God through the answered prayers. all the while many of us point to the unanswered prayers and following trials as the "proof" we seek.

 

[berachah]

Why do Christians resort to the fallacious practice of selective observation to sell their religion to others? Cherry picking (fallacy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You'll hear them tell about how someone suffering from an illness who was prayed for got cured, but you won't hear them tell you about all the ill people who were prayed for who didn't get cured. It's not that much different from the multi level marketing recruiters who tell you about the two or three people who made a million dollars but don't tell you about the million people who lost money.

I think it is a remnant of their non believing lives (before they got saved).....I mean how many non believers would trust in Chemo if they got cancer even tho' 90% of chemo users still die....

 

[SkyWriting]

I think it is a remnant of their non believing lives (before they got saved).....I mean how many non believers would trust in Chemo if they got cancer even tho' 90% of chemo users still die....

I thought 90% was a common result. I know 100% will die anyway, that's for sure.

 

[elman]

What evidence is there to suggest that we have eyesight after we die?
Are you aware that regardless of whether or not heaven exists, you are using the concept to bring you a certain form of comfort which you wouldn't have if you couldn't conceive of heaven. Do you not see this as a rationalization to help you avoid the fear of death?

If I read into this a bit further, I see that the only difference between Christians and atheists is that Christians have a fear of death for which they need some sort of rationalization, while atheists don't.

That is funny. Atheists do not fear death and you don't cherry pick.

 

[razeontherock]

You noticed?!