Why do Christians hate swearing in music?

[ps139]

MOD HAT ON

Dear friends,

I've read through this thread and seen so many swears. In case you do not know, they're not permitted here.

4.3 You will not bypass the automatic word censor in any way. In addition, if any word you posted is automatically censored you will remove this word and use an alternative.

The rules are pretty clear, if you make a post, and one of your words is turned into *****, you must go and edit your post.

Believe it or not, it is possible to discuss swearing without actually using the words!!!
I know, it might be hard to believe, but its true! So, please, STOP swearing. I've just edited about 10 posts and I don't feel like doing any more. I do not want to issue warnings for minor violations like this, I really don't want to, but if the thread keeps on as it is, I will have to, either that or we might have to close the thread.

THANKS!

MOD HAT OFF

 

[ps139]

Fully agree.

There is no commandment in the Bible that forbids "swearing" (ie. f-word, b-word, etc.). It's a Christian myth. It's just slang, sort of like the word "cuss". I think there's a place for it, but there are also circumstances where swearing should not be used; out of respect.

[bible]Ephesians 4:29[/bible]
[bible]Ephesians 5:4[/bible]

We are not always perfect but we can at least try.

 

[blackwasp]

Ephesians 4:29Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
Ephesians 5:4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

We are not always perfect but we can at least try.

That's probably the best support anyone has posted against "swearing", but I still don't think it is clear.

 

[ace85]

I don't have a problem with swearing in music or swearing in general. It's actually a good way to convey emotion. However, swearing can be wrong in certain contexts because it's considered socially unacceptable and some people can be offended by it.

 

[vandeda]

Personally, I listen to worship music for worship ... but if I'm not worshipping, then I'm listening to music almost purely for entertainment value. I'd rather listen to music to worship, because I am not here on earth to serve myself, but to serve God and God alone (Mark 8:34-38). If I am I am listening to music for entertainment, what I feed my flesh is important, and I would rather listen to music that at least has a positive message of hope to it.

Now ... would I listen to other music, even with cursing? Sure ... especially being in youth ministry, it helps to understand where these teens are at and what they're being bombarded with everyday. It amazes me how many teens come into church, seem like the good kid, then you hear about how they are outside of church while in school. God is for Sunday, but we can leave Him at church, or as my Mom said one day "You know Dan, you can have life outside of church" ... umm ... sure, but God is right there by my side. God is life!

Dan

 

[philN]

Do you think that pleasure for pleasure's sake is wrong?

It seems to be implied in your post, but I don't want to make the assumption.

 

[vandeda]

Do you think that pleasure for pleasure's sake is wrong?

It seems to be implied in your post, but I don't want to make the assumption.

No, I don't. But think about our lives ... how many of us do abundant activities for pleasure's sake, but then never seem to have time to even fit God into our daily lives. An hour of our time seems like a huge stretch ... whereas 2 hours on christianforums a day seems too short. Pleasure for pleasure's sake is fine ... we all need to rest at some point, and our form of relaxation is different. But our priorities still have to be right, and our #1 priority isn't us ... it's God.

Dan

 

[philN]

CrestStar - that's sort of what I have been getting at throughout this thread. Not all Christians believe that words have a moral value; I myself find the notion absurd. I think the fact that words that are deemed "bad" are not "bad" universally is evidence enough that many people are attaching moral value to something that is amoral. Morality is not something that is only true in one part of the world and not another, therefore if words are not universally good or bad, I think that deductive reasoning would conclude that words have no moral value.

That was a very wordy way of saying that I agree.

 

[CrestStar43]

lol finally someone who agrees with me!!!speaking of whats cosidered offensive did you know that in england they arnt as uptight about nudity in movies and games?there more worried about violence.thats much more logical then worrying about if you 6 year old is going to see breasts.

 

[JesusFreak786]

christianity doesnt apprisiate swearing because your word should mean your word, there is no reason to swear + people usually swear in Gods name, the ten commandments say not to use His name in vain

 

[philN]

Taking God's name in vain is different than using "obscenities" in the English language.

Also, let's not make blanket statements regarding the Christian view of "swearing". It is not as black and white as you seem to be making it out to be. Obviously taking God's name in vain is wrong, because the Bible says it is. The Bible is also silent when it comes to the other words that we have deemed "profane".

 

[WhoeverLovesGod01]

why would the bible be written to say: and these words are forbidden....*list words*

of course, the bible just tells us to keep our mouths clean. swearing isn't for christians.

 

[JesusFreak786]

Taking God's name in vain is different than using "obscenities" in the English language.

Also, let's not make blanket statements regarding the Christian view of "swearing". It is not as black and white as you seem to be making it out to be. Obviously taking God's name in vain is wrong, because the Bible says it is. The Bible is also silent when it comes to the other words that we have deemed "profane".

please, i dont understand BIG words such as obscenities and profane. But i dont understand, you clam to be a calvinist which i also believe in, but your sort of claming swearing is wrong, i dont understand....

 

[philN]

I never said you didn't understand those words. I put them in quotes because what we may deem to be an obscenity or a profane word may not be so deemed in another country.

But i dont understand, you clam to be a calvinist which i also believe in, but your sort of claming swearing is wrong, i dont understand....

I'm not claiming to be a Calvinist. I am a Calvinist.

And I don't recall ever saying that swearing is wrong --quite the contrary, actually. Words can't be good or evil. They are amoral. However, I did say it was wrong to take the Lord's name in vain. The Bible is pretty clear cut on that.

I don't really see what is confusing you.

 

[33ad]

Just posting for no other reason to get past this post number. (Think 'Mark of the Beast')

 

[eternal_flame_1988]

I don't like swearing in music because I don't like the feeling I get inside. I feel like God doesn't want me to listen to it. I used to be one of those people who enjoyed the swearing in songs, but now i see no need for it. I think its because I have become closer to God and realised that it is a really bad habit.

 

[philN]

But couldn't people get these bad feelings because they are raised being told that these words are bad words, but these euphemisms are okay to say?

As was stated already, you can go over to England and say "bloody" without feeling bad at all and they would get offended. Over there you are swearing, but if you say the same word in America no would care. Are words wrong in someplaces and not others? Is morality not a universal thing?

If you feel uncomfortable by certain words then by all means don't listen to songs with them or say them yourself, but I don't think that we can make a blanket statement that condemns certain words and those who say them.

 

[ps139]

Are words wrong in someplaces and not others?

Yes. As many have pointed out, there is nothing inherently evil in certain strings of consonants and vowels strung together.
Words express ideas and concepts.
In different places, the way things are expressed are looked at differently.
If saying "bloody" would be offensive to a certain person, why say it? What do you get out of it except offending your neighbor? Can't you express the same thought in a more respectful way?

Is morality not a universal thing?

Yes, it is universao: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you," and "Love your neighbor as yourself." These are universal and ALWAYS to be followed.

 

[philN]

I think we are getting our contexts mixed up here.

I am talking about "swearing" in general. Obviously, I'm not going to walk into a church and start screaming expletives at the top of my lungs, as I know it will offend people. The Bible is clear that we are not to try to offend people and must be willing to sacrifice certain things to maintain peace.

But if I am driving in my car and singing along to a song or writing in a journal or writing a song or story, there is nothing wrong with me using these words. There is a difference between seeking to offend and seeking to find the appropriate words to communicate how you feel.

Also, the purpose of this thread was about swearing in music, and I think that it should be obvious that listening to music that has what some would call profanity is not wrong unless it causes you to sin. The gun is not to blame for the murder.

 

[masrhy]

I tend not to like it! i dont mind other people listening to it i just think that singers could express there emotions in other ways rather then swearing!