LOL Red, I agree.
Night, I don't think Honor can see your posts.
My question is very straight forward, why didnt Jesus sin, was He able to us prayer, or angels, or the Spirit to help Him resist sin. What did He use.....
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Why didn't Jesus sin? How did He keep from sinning?
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My question is very straight forward, why didnt Jesus sin, was He able to us prayer, or angels, or the Spirit to help Him resist sin. What did He use.....
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God can, so maybe that's not a problem. People.Night, I don't think Honor can see your posts.
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And I told you it is impossible for God to sin. Against whom would He be sinning?
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I suppose He used prayer and absolute faith, but I don't believe He used divine intervention in the sense that He wasn't able to be tempted. I do think He was capable of sinning, but did not.
He never disobeyed the Father, even when He was tempted to do so (asking to have the cup taken from Him).
Even Christ said there is none good but One...My Father.
He never disobeyed the Father, even when He was tempted to do so (asking to have the cup taken from Him).
Even Christ said there is none good but One...My Father.
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Was Christ being tested or tempted in the wilderness?
If He was being tempted, there was a possibility He could have submitted, as that is the very nature of temptation. There must be the potential to fail. The outcome was in question.
If He was being tested, then Satan could very well only be bringing to the fore what was already known-that Christ could not, would not fail, ever. The outcome was never in question.
If He was being tempted, there was a possibility He could have submitted, as that is the very nature of temptation. There must be the potential to fail. The outcome was in question.
If He was being tested, then Satan could very well only be bringing to the fore what was already known-that Christ could not, would not fail, ever. The outcome was never in question.
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But Christ came as 'flesh' so it specifically could be possible for Him to fall just as Adam....
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Christ came as Adam because we all fell through Adam and had to all be redeemed through Adam.
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How is it disobedience to make a request? The request demonstrates no inclination to be outside of the Father's will.
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Well Senti, if I am tempted to eat a donut, it stands to reason that the donut is pleasing to me and I desire to eat it. Temptation means there is a drawing power there for the tempted.
Are you then saying that the offers of power and earthly rule without the agony of the cross, which Satan offered Christ in the wilderness, did not appeal to Christ? Or that Christ did not, briefly, even for a moment, want to take this avenue and avoid the horror of Golgotha? That He was, in essence, 'tempted' to listen and respond to Satan's deception, even though He did not fall for the lies?
Are you then saying that the offers of power and earthly rule without the agony of the cross, which Satan offered Christ in the wilderness, did not appeal to Christ? Or that Christ did not, briefly, even for a moment, want to take this avenue and avoid the horror of Golgotha? That He was, in essence, 'tempted' to listen and respond to Satan's deception, even though He did not fall for the lies?
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First, it is not a sin to eat a donut.
How could anyone offer power and earthly rule to the Creator of the universe. Satan was merely trying to get Jesus to recognize him as ruler of the earth based on what happened in Eden.
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Love does whatever is necessary. If your child gets in trouble you will do whatever is necessary to save that child. That plan was set the moment you decided to have that child. This is all that text means. It does not mean that heaven sat down and said, "Now, what are we going to do if man sins?"
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Okay, terrible analogy. Hey, I'm Canadian. We're all about the donuts, didn't you know that?
I actually agree with you Senti, I'm just playing the Devil's advocate.
I actually agree with you Senti, I'm just playing the Devil's advocate.
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