why did the stone age last so long?

[BL2KTN]

BlueLightningTN stops by, sees a thread that looks like Transcendent Man, smiles, feels good and heads somewhere else. After posting this. Ambiguous meaning. Whooo...

 

[dad]

why did the stone age last so long?

why did the stone age last so long?

3,800,000 years from the start of the stone age to the start of the bronze age.

only 6000 years from the start of the bronze age to the start of the space age.

Easy answer, there time is not real, but based on belief. After the flood, many traveled and used caves and hunting. Naturally, as the world had just been destroyed, they had to re explore and colonize.

 

[Standing_Ultraviolet]

why did the stone age last so long?

why did the stone age last so long?

3,800,000 years from the start of the stone age to the start of the bronze age.

only 6000 years from the start of the bronze age to the start of the space age.

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For some of those years, human ancestors weren't particularly intelligent. I'm not going to pick any qualms with the idea of extending the paleolithic back far enough to include some of our upright lower primate ancestors, but even though they might have walked like humans, their intelligence levels were close to those of a chimpanzee or a bonobo. They just weren't very bright. Some of the more recent human ancestors probably still couldn't have figured out something as complex as farming or urban building.

Within the history of H. sapiens sapiens, agriculture and urban living really wasn't the best option to begin with. There's a lot of controversy over why we made that odd call in the first place, and I'm not going to go too deep into it here. Suffice to say that it probably wasn't really much of a choice whatever caused it, because a hunter-gatherer lifestyle had a much higher quality and was usually much longer than life in a very early city. After that, it just kind of snowballed until agricultural civilization was really the better decision, and technological innovations developed more rapidly due to the greater degree of free time that artisans had relative to members of a nomadic society.

 

[AV1611VET]

For some of those years, human ancestors weren't particularly intelligent. I'm not going to pick any qualms with the idea of extending the paleolithic back far enough to include some of our upright lower primate ancestors, but even though they might have walked like humans, their intelligence levels were close to those of a chimpanzee or a bonobo. They just weren't very bright. Some of the more recent human ancestors probably still couldn't have figured out something as complex as farming or urban building.

Within the history of H. sapiens sapiens, agriculture and urban living really wasn't the best option to begin with. There's a lot of controversy over why we made that odd call in the first place, and I'm not going to go too deep into it here. Suffice to say that it probably wasn't really much of a choice whatever caused it, because a hunter-gatherer lifestyle had a much higher quality and was usually much longer than life in a very early city. After that, it just kind of snowballed until agricultural civilization was really the better decision, and technological innovations developed more rapidly due to the greater degree of free time that artisans had relative to members of a nomadic society.

Did they bash women over the head with their clubs and drag them by their hair back to their caves to be their wives?

 

[Freodin]

Easy answer, there time is not real, but based on belief. After the flood, many traveled and used caves and hunting. Naturally, as the world had just been destroyed, they had to re explore and colonize.

Therefore, they spend a vast amount of time on perfecting methods to work stone, instead of replicating the technology they already had. Yes, that is a great explanation.

 

[[serious]]

Yes, the population curve....it's exponential growth....

J curve is just another term for the exponential growth curve.

 

[[serious]]

This type of curve only exists in theory. But now we see it as a fact. It is scary.

except for any time a limiting factor is removed from a population. It's exceedingly common in bacterial populations.

 

[[serious]]

Sorry to be picky, but maths is my game.....a J curve describes an initial downswing, followed by an upswing which reaches greater heights than previously. Statistical noise aside, population growth has always traced an exponentially increasing growth...

Lecture over.....

Hmm... That does seem to be the more common use now. I remember it being normal exponential growth and in biology circles it's still used that way. The human population growth chart can still be called your type of J curve as the plague wiped out about 1/4 of the population before the upswing started.

 

[[serious]]

Because, for whatever reason, it took somebody that long to discover how to smelt copper.

We don't even know how they made that discovery, but it was probably just a lucky accident. Pretty soon their tribe got to hear about it. Then the neighbouring tribe got to hear about it.

That because we had to stay in one place to make such industries work. Since we couldn't stay in one place for long periods of time until the invention of agriculture, we wouldn't expect to see suchan advancement earlier. Once we we staying still, we saw regular advancement in tool use:

10,000 ya agriculture and early cold shaping of metal occured.
7000 ya high temperature copper working
5000 ya tin and copper combined into bronze
3000 ya iron age begins

 

[[serious]]

Then don't read it. I said things I know. Not all my students like to be in my class, particularly if I said thing above their heads. If I have chance to find such a person, I will try hard to stay with him as long as I could. There are a few nice physicists and biologists in this forum. I tried to talk more with them. But, well, they don't seems like the pressure I gave them in my questions.

Do you have hard questions? Throw them to me and see how would I love them.

Juvs Law, Every thread Juve is in will result in him unsubtly reminding everyone of his claim to totally being a college professor for reals.

You don't need to keep repeating this, We all know.

 

[Sasquatchit]

According to Genesis, God didn't make cave people. They first lived in the Garden of Eden, and then they were sent out of the Garden to farm. Oh yea, also God made them clothes.

The cave dwellers probably came about as people were hiding from something....
If you're out in the bush, do you not take shelter in a natural setting, if needed, and if it's available? If so, should we call you a cave man? There is no such thing...it's bogus; conventional hogwash!!!!

I think people often get Bigfoot bones mixed up with human bones, because bigfoots like to live in caves....

 

[AV1611VET]

According to Genesis, God didn't make cave people. They first lived in the Garden of Eden, and then they were sent out of the Garden to farm. Oh yea, also God made them clothes.

Cavemen were mainly outcasts in the Bible.

They were the rebellious, the quarantined, the social misfits, the antiestablishment, even the adventurous.

Petra was a cave city.

 

[Standing_Ultraviolet]

Did they bash women over the head with their clubs and drag them by their hair back to their caves to be their wives?

Some probably did, and some probably didn't. Taking "wives" after a raid on an enemy village or tribal group is something that, unfortunately, has happened historically and still happens today. With hunter-gatherer cultures, how warlike they are can vary a lot, though. Some tribes were incredibly aggressive and civilians were considered legitimate targets for their actions. Others participated in war mostly as a ritualistic practice, because of the danger associated with losing large parts of their population. They might have traded slaves and "wives" in peace negotiations, but they probably wouldn't have staged raids on each other very often.

 

[AV1611VET]

Others participated in war mostly as a ritualistic practice, because of the danger associated with losing large parts of their population.

Do you believe war and famine are necessary to keep the ecosphere in balance, as some scientists taught?

 

[DerelictJunction]

Do you believe war and famine are necessary to keep the ecosphere in balance, as some scientists taught?

Which scientists? Did they advocate starting wars and growing limited amounts of food so that the population could be reduced?

 

[Sasquatchit]

Cavemen were mainly outcasts in the Bible.

They were the rebellious, the quarantined, the social misfits, the antiestablishment, even the adventurous.

Petra was a cave city.

Perhaps those people were hiding from something too?
Amos 9:2-3 "...though they climb up to the heaven, from there I will bring them down;...though they hide from My sight at the bottom of the sea, from there I will command the serpent, and it shall bite then."

Obad. 3-4 Ref. to Edom; cliff dwellers and who set their nest among the stars. God brought them down.

 

[AV1611VET]

Which scientists?

Who cares which scientists? does it matter?

Did they advocate starting wars and growing limited amounts of food so that the population could be reduced?

In the spirit of my movie file: Malthusian catastrophe.

 

[Standing_Ultraviolet]

Do you believe war and famine are necessary to keep the ecosphere in balance, as some scientists taught?

Honestly, no. Malthusian catastrophes aren't necessary. We're intelligent animals, and we can figure out how to avoid terrifying natural corrections to excessive population growth and resource use if we're smart about it. They're definitely possible, though, and they tend to affect the most vulnerable rather than the most responsible.

I think that Jesus had some things to say about protecting the vulnerable, along with some things to say about greed...

 

[juvenissun]

except for any time a limiting factor is removed from a population. It's exceedingly common in bacterial populations.

Very good. What happened to those populations? My guess is that everyone of them collapsed due to one reason or another. It might go in cycles. But that is for bacteria, not human.

 

[juvenissun]

Juvs Law, Every thread Juve is in will result in him unsubtly reminding everyone of his claim to totally being a college professor for reals.

You don't need to keep repeating this, We all know.

Is that true? Thanks for the observation. I like to share my understanding in a meaningful way. But I certainly don't like to teach a certain particular type of students.