Why did Republicans force their way into Impeachment Hearing?

[Speedwell]

There has never been a secret impeachment hearing.

There isn't one now. Not yet, anyway.

 

[SimplyMe]

First, to be clear, this is not an impeachment hearing. I wouldn't even call it a legitimate impeachment inquiry because Nancy Pelosi never brought an inquiry to vote.

Actually, it is an impeachment hearing. There is no requirement to bring it to a vote -- no vote was taken on the Nixon impeachment hearings until months after the investigations began.

If anything, this is just a democrat political stunt to have yet another investigation looming over Trump right before the election.

What election? The Presidential election isn't until next year and the Democrats state they want Impeachment proceedings concluded before the end of the year. Even if they aren't finished, it is highly unlikely that the House will still be working on impeachment a year from now -- before the election.

Why Nancy never put inquiry to a vote? Because she knows it wouldn't pass. Then again, this stunt was never about actually impeaching the president and everything about trying to drive down Trump's polling numbers.

And this would be false. There appears to be little doubt that the House will be impeaching the President. The question now is if enough Republicans will find their conscience and vote to convict in the Senate.

Because these secret hearings are unprecedented and likened to a Soviet style secret courts used to destroy political opponent. Not that the Democrats really cared about democracy. The point is that for both Nixon and Clinton, there was a vote for an inquiry. Furthermore, everything was open to the public.

Yes, with Nixon there was a vote several months after the impeachment investigation started in the House, being done in closed session by committee. Further, it is odd that the rules that the committee are following are the same rules (closed hearings and all) that Republicans created during the Obama administration, to investigate his administration. It is odd that Republicans are whinging so much because they are now the minority party having to abide by the rules they created -- and if they are "Soviet style secret courts," they are that way only because Republicans made them that way.

As for Clinton, they got the information from the Ken Starr's investigation -- the House did not have their own impeachment investigation, so there was no vote before the investigation started.

Further, investigations are largely always secret. If the police are investigating a crime, they do not invite the press, or the suspects lawyers along to watch them investigate. In fact, law enforcement (as a general rule) typically won't answer questions about investigations. As others have pointed out, when Clinton was being investigated by the Republican House, those hearings were secret.

Now, when they start working on articles of impeachment and call witnesses in support, or to defend the President against, those articles -- those will be open hearings.

 

[JohnAshton]

Really? It's kind of humorous that anyone from the left would criticize the Republicans for doing the EXACT same thing if the shoe was on the other foot. If the Republicans had done this type of secret hearing with Obama we would have heard no end to "what are they hiding?" and we have a right to know etc etc. Democrats would have been all over it! This thread is hilarious?

Nonsense. The GOP is in disarray and despair, and do not know how to escape the entangling web of their attempted coup against the Constitution.

The reckoning against the GOP's anti-Americanism has begun.

 

[cow451]

Really? It's kind of humorous that anyone from the left would criticize the Republicans for doing the EXACT same thing if the shoe was on the other foot. If the Republicans had done this type of secret hearing with Obama we would have heard no end to "what are they hiding?" and we have a right to know etc etc. Democrats would have been all over it! This thread is hilarious?

So why are the committee Republicans not to be trusted?

 

[miggles]

i'm glad they barged in on the secret coup.

 

[cow451]

I think the bigger question is why the Democrats are keeping the Republicans out? @cow451 ,I think the answer is that the Democrats are desperate.

I guess you missed the part about how there are Republicans in these committees.

 

[cow451]

First, to be clear, this is not an impeachment hearing. I wouldn't even call it a legitimate impeachment inquiry because Nancy Pelosi never brought an inquiry to vote. If anything, this is just a democrat political stunt to have yet another investigation looming over Trump right before the election. Why Nancy never put inquiry to a vote? Because she knows it wouldn't pass. Then again, this stunt was never about actually impeaching the president and everything about trying to drive down Trump's polling numbers.

An inquiry is legitimate. No different than when the GOP had the majority. The Benghazi inquiries were allowed to proceed to their logical ends, so why all the whining. If no impeachment is forthcoming, you should be a happy an grateful Trump supporter.

 

[cow451]

Because these secret hearings are unprecedented and likened to a Soviet style secret courts used to destroy political opponent. Not that the Democrats really cared about democracy. The point is that for both Nixon and Clinton, there was a vote for an inquiry. Furthermore, everything was open to the public.

LOL. That’s cute.

 

[cow451]

Republican committee members are not "going along with it". They are debunking every accusation and exposing them as frauds. That is why the Democrats want everything is being done in secret. So they can control the narrative by leaking false information that helps their agenda.

If they are debunking it, why are other Republicans trying to get in their way?

 

[Nithavela]

Really? It's kind of humorous that anyone from the left would criticize the Republicans for doing the EXACT same thing if the shoe was on the other foot. If the Republicans had done this type of secret hearing with Obama we would have heard no end to "what are they hiding?" and we have a right to know etc etc. Democrats would have been all over it! This thread is hilarious?

News from the paralell universe, eh?

 

[cow451]

The more that I see and hear her
the more I like her.
She could actually get a lot of cross over votes.
MB

I hope you are donating to her campaign.

 

[durangodawood]

I guess you missed the part about how there are Republicans in these committees.

So many Trump people still dont know that. What media cocoon do they inhabit?

 

[Mountainmanbob]

attempted coup against the Constitution.





The reckoning against the GOP's anti-Americanism has begun.

I guess they forgot already?
We are the ones that support that.
Voters hopefully will remember?
M-Bob

 

[wing2000]

Oh look, it's the FOX news morning briefing....

 

[wing2000]

There has never been a secret impeachment hearing.

Agreed. Just because a committee hearing is not open to non-committee members does not mean it's "secret."

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Oh look, it's the FOX news morning briefing....

Fair and balanced
for a change
in the (Right) direction.
M-Bob

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

There isn't one now. Not yet, anyway.

So which Democrat is the mole who is intentionally leaking information?

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Could Pelosi abandon impeachment effort? Legal analyst predicts she may

"You don't have to be a rocket scientist or an MIT professor to know that they didn't do a vote because they didn't want to have [Democratic House members] stand up in districts that were against it and have to vote for it," said Burns, adding that some moderate Democrats are hesitant to declare their support for impeachment.

 

[wing2000]

Why did Republicans force their way into Impeachment Hearing?

Matt Gaetz wanted to be on TV.

 

[JohnAshton]

The GOP candidates in the House elections next year will be slaughtered by how they are reacting to these committee hearings.