Why did Jesus not say "I am God" in the gospels?

[Der Alte]

Who says it is a verb?

something to be grasped,
ἁρπαγμὸν (harpagmon)
Noun - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's 725: Spoil, an object of eager desire, a prize. From harpazo; plunder.

 

[Der Alte]

You are correct I looked at the wrong word. Nevertheless the more recent scholarship, the 25 page thesis which I quoted and linked to shows the more correct definition is "something one already possesses which can be used to their advantage." Thus "to be grasped" is incorrect. Please feel free to actually read the study I quoted/linked to. Again I remind you this scholarship was not possible prior to the establishment of TLG database in 1972.
As you quoted Philp 2:6 it could appear to say Jesus did not have equality with God but would have to grasp for it.

6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.​

 

[tonychanyt]

You are correct I looked at the wrong word. Nevertheless the more recent scholarship, the 25 page thesis which I quoted and linked to shows the more correct definition is "something one already possesses which can be used to their advantage." Thus "to be grasped" is incorrect.

See He did not consider it ROBBERY to be equal with God, and follow up there.

 

[prodromos]

See He did not consider it ROBBERY to be equal with God, and follow up there.

Why? Why create yet another thread in that mass of threads you have created which no one can follow because what they posted in a couple of days ago is now completely buried.

What is your purpose here on CF?

 

[tonychanyt]

Why? Why create yet another thread in that mass of threads you have created which no one can follow because what they posted in a couple of days ago is now completely buried.

I prefer to keep the question of each thread precise.

What is your purpose here on CF?

See A Denomination-Free, Disciplined, Logical, and Probabilistic Approach to Biblical Hermeneutics and follow up there. But then, you probably wouldn't because you do not try to keep each thread's issue precise.

Precision, precision, precision, that's my point.

BTW, I do not insists that you do that; nor do I have the authority to.

 

[prodromos]

BTW, I do not insists that you do that; nor do I have the authority to.

But it hasn't stopped you making the Christian Scriptures forum unusable to most people.

 

[tonychanyt]

But it hasn't stopped you making the Christian Scriptures forum unusable to most people.

reference? Please be precise and try not to overgeneralize in your reply. Thank you.

 

[PsaltiChrysostom]

But it hasn't stopped you making the Christian Scriptures forum unusable to most people.

I have to go 27 pages deep before I see a full listings of posts. I've pretty much stopped posting here because there is no way to keep up with the sheer number of postings he's made.

 

[NewLifeInChristJesus]

ya it is a testing of patience i feel. It amazes me to see some of the interactions but that just goes for being online. Sometimes people just want to say the opposite view, sometimes i do it and when i realize it i annoy myself lol

It's hard to always write what you feel without coming across as offensive. I regret some of the things I've posted because of that. But it's all good.

 

[Der Alte]

See He did not consider it ROBBERY to be equal with God, and follow up there.

Sorry robbery" is incorrect. See link to 25 page thesis I linked to before post#42 I even quoted part of it. . The word "arpagmon" is incorrectly translated "robbery." Since you will not even look at the evidence I provided why expect me to read yours?

 

[PsaltiChrysostom]

Again I remind you this scholarship was not possible prior to the establishment of TLG database in 1972.

I finally googled the TLG and wow! When I was in seminary in 2006, I was still mainly working out of "Middle Liddle" at our library. Wish our librarian would have told me about TLG!!!

 

[tonychanyt]

I have to go 27 pages deep before I see a full listings of posts. I've pretty much stopped posting here because there is no way to keep up with the sheer number of postings he's made.

You wrote: "it hasn't stopped you making the Christian Scriptures forum unusable to most people."

My question was how do you know that the above is true for most people?

Please be precise and try not to overgeneralize in your reply. Thank you.

 

[tonychanyt]

most of which quickly fade into the background.

Thanks for sharing. Do you have some reference support for the above? Try to be precise in your reply. I would particularly value statistical data if any.

 

[tturt]

tonychanyt thanks for creating precise threads.

 

[Always in His Presence]

My question was how do you know that the above is true for most people?

It is for me.

 

[tonychanyt]

It is for me.

Are you not overgeneralizing?

 

[Always in His Presence]

Are you not overgeneralizing?

No

 

[tonychanyt]

No

It happened to me. Therefore it happens to most people.

Is that overgeneralizing?

 

[Always in His Presence]

It happened to me. Therefore it happens to most people.

Is that overgeneralizing?

No

question: what is the first letter of your middle name?

 

[tonychanyt]

No

I guess you are not Elon Musk

question: what is the first letter of your middle name?

Tony CHAN Ying Tung. My father named me Ying Tung when I was born in Hong Kong many decades ago. Don't let my picture fool you It means something like smooth sailing