Discussion Why did Jesus never cleanse and entire leper colony?

[hislegacy]

They were there - but He never did - why?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Jesus tended to only heal people who asked him from what I can recall.

As to why He never visited one, no idea. Perhaps it was not written of Him.

 

[Benam]

Don't the gospels say that Jesus worked countless other signs and miracles that were not written down? Who knows, maybe he did?

But why stop there? We could ask why he didn't do a Thanos Snap and heal every human on the planet all at once. Surely he could have.

 

[disciple Clint]

They were there - but He never did - why?

He as you know was not here to set everything right, healing were a sign that He as in fact God.

 

[tturt]

Yes, He could have.

For awhile thought Jesus physically healed only those who came to Him or someone who came to Him on their behalf such as the
centurion's servant (John 5), Jairus' daughter (Mark 5) and a certain Cana nobleman's son who was deadly ill in Capernaum. (John 4)

But that doesn't seem to be the case at the pool of Bethesda in John 5 nor when He healed the high priest servant's right ear (Luk 22)

But whose to say that earlier or in an instant they or someone believed He would heal. Whatever the case, Jesus healed/ heals.

 

[Soyeong]

They were there - but He never did - why?

Matthew 8:2 And behold, a leper[a] came to him and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, if you will, you can make me clean.”

It should be noted that he asked to be made clean and did not ask to be healed, which is because he had been pronounced to be unclean, so what he has was a spiritual condition that had a spiritual remedy. "Tzaraat" is often translated as "leprosy", but it has no English equivalent, so "leprosy" is the best bad English word to convey the condition, however, it is definitely not leprosy. For example, someone can only be considered to have the condition if a priests pronounces it, they are pronounced clean if it covers their entire body, and it is a condition that buildings can have, so the way that it is treated does not match leprosy. Rather it is a spiritual contain that can be caused by lashon hara or in other words caused by evil speech, such as in Numbers 12:1-10, where Miriam was struck with the condition after she spoke against Moses.

So the reason Jesus did not clean all of those who had tzaraat is because some still had the spiritual condition that causing it, such as still hating their brother, so they needed to repent and come to Jesus in order to be cleansed. There were times when Jesus cleansed or healed all who came to him, but those who did not even have the faith to come to him were not cleansed or healed.

 

[hislegacy]

Matthew 8:2 And behold, a leper[a] came to him and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, if you will, you can make me clean.”

It should be noted that he asked to be made clean and did not ask to be healed, which is because he had been pronounced to be unclean, so what he has was a spiritual condition that had a spiritual remedy. "Tzaraat" is often translated as "leprosy", but it has no English equivalent, so "leprosy" is the best bad English word to convey the condition, however, it is definitely not leprosy. For example, someone can only be considered to have the condition if a priests pronounces it, they are pronounced clean if it covers their entire body, and it is a condition that buildings can have, so the way that it is treated does not match leprosy. Rather it is a spiritual contain that can be caused by lashon hara or in other words caused by evil speech, such as in Numbers 12:1-10, where Miriam was struck with the condition after she spoke against Moses.

So the reason Jesus did not clean all of those who had tzaraat is because some still had the spiritual condition that causing it, such as still hating their brother, so they needed to repent and come to Jesus in order to be cleansed. There were times when Jesus cleansed or healed all who came to him, but those who did not even have the faith to come to him were not cleansed or healed.

Except the word leper in Matthew 8 is not transliterated from the Hebrew (Tzaraat), but from the Greek

Lepros

 

[Soyeong]

Except the word leper in Matthew 8 is not transliterated from the Hebrew (Tzaraat), but from the Greek

Lepros

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In Luke 17:12-14, it uses the word "lepros" and then Jesus instructed them to show themselves to the priest, which was in accordance with Leviticus 13, and again they were asking to be cleansed rather than healed, which is also in accordance with the ritual purity language used on Leviticus 13. Whether the condition described as leprosy in the Bible refers to Hansen's disease is another issue.

 

[DragonFox91]

He may’ve at some point. The Gospels say he traveled from town to town healing people & only occasionally gives us a snapshot. When I hear that (Mark I believe specifically says it in similar words), I do picture lots of people being healed at once.

But reminder: the focus of his ministry wasn’t to physically heal people & fix the world’s problems in its current state

 

[hislegacy]

In Luke 17:12-14, it uses the word "lepros" and then Jesus instructed them to show themselves to the priest, which was in accordance with Leviticus 13, and again they were asking to be cleansed rather than healed, which is also in accordance with the ritual purity language used on Leviticus 13. Whether the condition described as leprosy in the Bible refers to Hansen's disease is another issue.

Yes, they were sick with the disease called leprosy - a wasting disease that made them ceremonially unclean. (glad you corrected your position on Matt 18 ) And yes showing themselves to the priest is following Levitical law. But to be declared 'clean' the disease would have to have been cured. It is describing being physically healed and religiously set free.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Jesus only ever did what He saw the Father doing - so ask the Father I guess...

 

[I's2C]

They were there - but He never did - why?

Joh 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

I would just say this; all those that are heavy burdened are invited to come and HE is quick to help. It has always been my belief one has to ask before GOD/JESUS interferes in their life. At White Throne judgement they want be able to say the reason they sinned is because you interfered. 1st seek GOD and the rest will fallow. 1 has to ask for forgiveness before forgiveness will be forgiven. There are many; scripture calls them fools who flat out reject GOD and will never come to repentance. JESUS want interfere unless 1 ask HIM to. HE is a heart knower and knows ones heart if they love HIM or not without them even knowing.
The ear of 1 of temple guard was brought up, JESUS healed; that was a mistake made by Peter and it was only fitting JESUS healed it. Peter was told earlier when CHRIST ordered Satan out of Peter because Peter didn't want the crucifixion to happen; CHRIST told peter that was from Satan for Satan didnt want CHRIST to defeat death which was the reason of the Crucifixion. A longer story for another time.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Jesus only ever did what He saw the Father doing - so ask the Father I guess...

This is the winning response

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I have been looking for years. I cannot find a definitive case where Jesus did not heal all those who came to Him to be healed. The only instance I can find is His own country and home town, and that because of their unbelief.

Matthew 13:57-58 KJV
57. And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.
58. And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.

Mark 6:4-6 KJV
4. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
5. And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
6. And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.

Today we see much of the same. People insist that God does not will all to be healed, and they and those who believe He does not receive according to their faith. They then use their continued sickness to prove that God does not heal all. Essentially, they define God and His will by the fruit if their own unbelief.

He healed all.

Acts 10:38 KJV
38. How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Matthew 4:23-25 Jesus was going throughout all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness among the people. The news about Him spread throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all who were ill, those suffering with various diseases and pains, demoniacs, epileptics, paralytics; and He healed them. Large crowds followed Him from Galilee and the Decapolis and Jerusalem and Judea and from beyond the Jordan.

Matthew 8:16 When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick. This was to fulfill what was spoken through Isaiah the prophet: “He Himself took our infirmities and carried away our diseases. (NOTE: In order to fulfil the prophecy, He had to heal them ALL. See Act 10:38 above which carries the same message.)

Matthew 9:35 Jesus went through all the towns and villages, teaching in their synagogues, proclaiming the good news of the kingdom and healing every disease and sickness.

Matthew 12:15. But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all;

Matthew 14:14 And when Jesus went out He saw a great multitude; and He was moved with compassion for them, and healed their sick.

Matthew 12:15 But when Jesus knew it, He withdrew from there. And great multitudes followed Him, and He healed them all.

Mark 6:56 Wherever He entered, into villages, cities, or the country, they laid the sick in the marketplaces, and begged Him that they might just touch the hem of His garment. And as many as touched Him were made well.

Mark 3:10 For He healed many, so that as many as had afflictions pressed about Him to touch Him.

Luke 4:40 When the sun was setting, all those who had any that were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and He laid His hands on every one of them and healed them.

Luke 6:19 And the whole multitude sought to touch Him, for power went out from Him and healed them all.

Luke 9:11 But when the multitudes knew it, they followed Him; and He received them and spoke to them about the kingdom of God, and healed those who had need of healing.

 

[hislegacy]

I have been looking for years. I cannot find a definitive case where Jesus did not heal all those who came to Him to be healed.

There is the caveat.

Luke shows it clearly:

Luke 5:17 Now it happened on a certain day, as He was teaching, that there were Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting by, who had come out of every town of Galilee, Judea, and Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was present to heal them.​

Here is the Anointed One - Jesus - and the Bible clearly states the Power of the Lord was present to heal them - however if you keep reading - not one of them got healed.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

There is the caveat.

Luke shows it clearly:

Luke 5:17 Now it happened on a certain day, as He was teaching, that there were Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting by, who had come out of every town of Galilee, Judea, and Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was present to heal them.​

Here is the Anointed One - Jesus - and the Bible clearly states the Power of the Lord was present to heal them - however if you keep reading - not one of them got healed.

Excellent point.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Don't the gospels say that Jesus worked countless other signs and miracles that were not written down? Who knows, maybe he did?

But why stop there? We could ask why he didn't do a Thanos Snap and heal every human on the planet all at once. Surely he could have.

He could’ve done a Thanos snap and healed everyone and gave everyone a taco at the same time.