Why critics of Ellen G. White are "splitting hairs".

djconklin said:

How does one determine if someone is "not right" with God? Doesn't that assume that we are "right" with God?

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icedragon101 said:

i did not say he stopped his metioral work. just that it is in the final stages. I have a point I am trying to get to. so lets review.

according to SDA understanging of Daniel: In 1844 jesus enter the most holy place to commence the day of atonement (anti-typical) as for shawdoed in the yearly day of atonemen(type). He is in the Heavenly sanctuary right now interceding , reviewing the records and preparing to end his interercessory work. is that correct. do we all agree on this

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OntheDL said:

We need to do some soul searching. Who utimately is benefitting from this controversy?

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icedragon101 said:

ok here is the problem.

the day of atonement was on of 3 fall feast.
the feast of trumptes
the Day of atonement
the feast of booths

The have there counter parts in the spring of the year
passover
feast of unlevened bread
feast of first fruits aslo know as pentecost

The spring feast were fulfilled
passover - the passion week
unlevened bread - jesus in the tomb
first friuts (penticost)- out poring of the holy spirit on the chruch.

right

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Sophia7 said:

I agree with you on this, and I was hoping to find some answers to my concerns. I'm still studying, and I haven't concluded anything for sure. You may not see this in my posts because what I want to know about is the hard questions and the things that I can't reconcile, but I've been trying to give the traditional Adventist positions the benefit of the doubt as much as possible in all of my studies. You don't know how much I wish I could be certain that what I've believed my whole life is true. One thing I am certain of is my faith in Christ. I'm going to take a break from posting on this for a while, though. It's not profitable for any of us to keep arguing over it here and getting into personal disputes with each other.

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OntheDL said:

Mostly correct except first fruit is not the same as Pentecost. First fruit represents the resurrection of Jesus. Pentecost is 50 days after the 1st fruit. It represents the out pour of the spirit.

What's your question?

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icedragon101 said:

ok that is helpful is was not sure where to put the ressusected christ and saints. had a little confusion. thanks for clearing that up.

Here is the problem
The spring feast ALL correspond to some actual event in time corresponding to the actual time of the type.
passover = passion week
unlevened bread = jesus in the tomb
first firuts = ressurection
Pentecost = the holy spirt being poured out
You have lread agreed that this is the case. My question is .....Why does the same thing apply to the Fall feast
Fall feast

turmpets = Millerite movement 13 yers or so
Day of atonement= 163 year and counting since 1844
Feast of booth =? EGW says we will 7 days traveling to the new jeresulem , there are 7 day to the feast of booths.

Why don't the trumpets and the Day of atonement correspond to a actual time event like the other do? I'm willing to give her the feast of booths.

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tall73 said:

Do you have a reason for the day-year principle to be evoked here when it was not in regard to the Spring feasts?

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OntheDL said:

I have not seen where EGW said 7 days traveling = the Feast of Tablenacle/booth.

The feasts fit all the events to a Tee.

Fall feasts:

Typical----------------------------------Antitypical
Feast of Trumpets-------------------1834 Miller began
1st of 7th month------------------preaching about the
-------------------------------------coming judgment

Day of Atonement----------------1844 Judgment began
10th of 7th month----------------------day for a year

Feast of Tabernacle------------------------2nd coming
15th of 7th month

the 7 days of the feast
of Tabernacle--------------------------1000 year reign

8th day of assembly---------------new heaven & earth
fields plowed

10 days before the Day of Atonement, the trumpets were blown throughout Israel on the Feast of Trumpets to warn the judgment day.

10 years before 1844, William Miller in 1834 began to preach about the judgment hour.

163 years are not much time compared to the history of salvation. Noah preached 120 years. I believe we are right there at the end: even at the door.

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icedragon101 said:

yah you just made my point now where in the springs feast do you see day equaling a years that is just too complecitate.

review the spring

passover = passion week, nice fit it fist exactly to the event
unlevend bread - christ in the tomb corresponds right to the event
first fruits - ressurection
pesticost - holy sprit

there is no day for year stuff it is a nice simple fit. the occsom razor principle fits here

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icedragon101 said:

yah you just made my point now where in the springs feast do you see day equaling a years that is just too complecitate.

review the spring

passover = passion week, nice fit it fist exactly to the event
unlevend bread - christ in the tomb corresponds right to the event
first fruits - ressurection
pesticost - holy sprit

there is no day for year stuff it is a nice simple fit. the occsom razor principle fits here. not so with the fall feast I would not have gotten that from the feast. by the way what day is 1st day of the 7th month on the gregorian calander , same with the or dates?

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OntheDL said:

It's a guide. Not an astrological chart to predict exact dates.

Notice the 1000 year reign is represented by the 7 days of ingathering.

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OntheDL said:

It's a guide. Not an astrological chart to predict exact dates.

Notice the 1000 year reign is represented by the 7 days of ingathering.

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OntheDL said:

I have not seen where EGW said 7 days traveling = the Feast of Tablenacle/booth.

The feasts fit all the events to a Tee.

Fall feasts:

Typical----------------------------Antitypical
Feast of Trumpets-------------1834 Miller began
1st of 7th month------------preaching about the
--------------------------------coming judgment

Day of Atonement------------1844 Judgment began
10th of 7th month----------------day for a year

Feast of Tabernacle------------------2nd coming
15th of 7th month

the 7 days of the feast
of Tabernacle-------------------1000 year reign

8th day of assembly----------new heaven & earth
fields plowed

10 days before the Day of Atonement, the trumpets were blown throughout Israel on the Feast of Trumpets to warn the judgment day.

10 years before 1844, William Miller in 1834 began to preach about the judgment hour.

163 years are not much time compared to the history of salvation. Noah preached 120 years. I believe we are right there at the end: even at the door.

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this is crazy dating, it makes no sense. the spring feast all had something to do with christ and the fall feast had something to do with an baptist farmer, a small band of disappionted followers????? no way

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djconklin said:

I was always taught that the spring festivals dealt with Christ's 1st coming, while the fall festivals were about His Second Coming.

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