Why Creationists were bored from Evolutionists?

[orange]

Why Creationists were bored from Evolutionists?


Hi you. It is right that we, Creationists don’t want to spend our time
For explaining Creationism to you. And I understand other Creationists.
There are some reasons for it.
1) You don’t care about any arguments when given. Arguments and facts are meaning nothing for you. No matter/ for you. And truth in general.
2) Your ignorance bored us.
3) What is significant for you-it is your opinion.
4) There are books about it (Creationism), you can read they yourself. (Creationism and Time).
5) Truth doesn’t need to be propagated so much as lie needs to be propagated. Truth has his big price no matter that it was believed/accepted or not. But the price of the lie depends from the number of fooled persons. So at first if you are fooled it is your problem not our.
6) We gave you some arguments already. But you don’t accept them.
It is already not question of arguments but question of philosophy
And mental healthy……. When you can’t believe to a normal sense and your eyes, then no one can help you. You can suspect to all what you see, but is not scientific problem it is other problem.
7) Evolutionism it is not science, it is hypothesis about this-
If we would accept that God not created the world, then how the world could begin to had been? So it is simply imagination.
You can also imagine so, if you were not born from your mother, then how you can be created in 10 milliard years from the mud by Evolution?
Scientists counted probability of life by Evolution; it is equal 0,0000000000000000000000…………. and so on.
Certainly this argument also means nothing for Evolutionists as all other scientific facts.
8) But instead of Evolutionism the Creationism is real science backed with Lot of scientific facts. You want us to quote all they here?? (read books for it). We were bored by reading and seeing books and movies about Evolutionism, learning/study that nonsense in Schools….
Really we have not a time. And why we must to continue when you
did not accept some arguments already?
Truly we don’t care about you so much, because it is your problem.
9) Evolutionism was born from Atheism. And what is Atheism?
In deep their heart Atheist thinks so-If God don’t live and work in my life (It is partly true (semi truth)) I would declare (with hysteria) and believe that there is not God. ((If God don’t work in my life it means that there is not God-this is another lie, which lives in hearts in many persons and far away from the sense)). He is offended from the God (as he think). In this way he does revenge to God. So it is hysteria against God. Evolutionism is continuation of the same hysteria. This is one of main reasons why Evolutionists don’t accept any scientific fact or any argument. Because it is not only question of arguments but question of hysteria. And Evolutionism not backed by scientific facts but hysteria and lie. So it is another reason why we-Creationists don’t want to spend much of our time uselessly on Evolutionists.
10) Only one fact for example. Do you know that scientific research showed that age of earth might be only about from 3000 year to 3000000 year when was counted by various (about 50-150) methods.
Most often of them is about 10000 years. Do you know this?? But when you don’t know this simple thing how you can know about other facts? So I hope that it is clear for you now why Creationists don’t want to continue to argue with you. Be well.
Orange in Christ

 

[lucaspa]

Why Creationists were bored from Evolutionists?


Hi you. It is right that we, Creationists don’t want to spend our time
For explaining Creationism to you.

Then why are you posting in a Discussion area? Orange, this looks like a surrender. You can't counter the arguments, so you are trying to save face. Why not simply change your mind if your arguments are flawed?

There are some reasons for it.
1) You don’t care about any arguments when given. Arguments and facts are meaning nothing for you. No matter/ for you. And truth in general.

Are you sure? If this is the case, why did I bother responding to your arguments?

2) Your ignorance bored us.

If we were so ignorant, then you should be able to show where we are ignorant. It appears that this is a surrender.

3) What is significant for you-it is your opinion.

What is significant is the truth about how God created. As revealed by God in His Creation.

4) There are books about it (Creationism), you can read they yourself. (Creationism and Time).

There are, and over a dozen of them are on my bookshelf.

5) Truth doesn’t need to be propagated so much as lie needs to be propagated.

Then why are there so many books on creationism? Why do the professional creationists spend so much time writing books and websites on it and so little time doing scientific research. Evolutionists who are scientists discuss creationism in their spare time. Their job is to continue to look at the physical universe.

6) We gave you some arguments already. But you don’t accept them.

We refuted them. That is, we posted data that shows the arguments are wrong.

It is already not question of arguments but question of philosophy
And mental healthy……. When you can’t believe to a normal sense and your eyes, then no one can help you.

A good description of creationism.

7) Evolutionism it is not science, it is hypothesis about this-
If we would accept that God not created the world, then how the world could begin to had been?

Do you remember that you are on a Christians-Only forum. Everyone here accepts that God created the world. What we are discussing is how God created it.

You can also imagine so, if you were not born from your mother, then how you can be created in 10 milliard years from the mud by Evolution?

How does this follow? Evolution works on populations, not individuals. And the population changes over time. From generation to generation, but each generation is born from their mothers. Orange, do you look exactly like your mother? No. Well, right there you have 1 of the two parts of natural selection -- variation.

Scientists counted probability of life by Evolution; it is equal 0,0000000000000000000000…………. and so on.

What you are talking about are some of the calculations on a particular protein arising from amino acids by pure chance. That's not evolution. The calculations are GIGO -- garbage in, garbage out. I'll be happy to go into detail on why and how that is so, it seems that "Arguments and facts are meaning nothing for you". So let me know you will listen before I spend my time, please.

8) But instead of Evolutionism the Creationism is real science backed with Lot of scientific facts. You want us to quote all they here??

Really? The real facts are somewhat different. Ceationism was the accepted scientific theory from 1700-1831. The scientists working during that time, all of whom were Christians and many of whom were ministers (so much for your 'mafia' idea) found scientific facts that showed creationism was false. To quote you -- read books for it. I suggest Genesis and Geology by CC Gillespie and The Biblical Flood by Davis A. Young. Both are full of citations to the literature of the time, which you can also then read.

9) Evolutionism was born from Atheism. And what is Atheism?

Sorry, but again the history doesn't show that. Darwin, at the time he wrote Origin of the Species, was a devout Christian. Here is what he wrote in Origin. Tell us, please, how this can be atheism:
"There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being evolved." C. Darwin, On the Origin of Species, pg 450.
Also: "To my mind it accords better with what we know of the laws impressed on matter by the Creator, that the production and extinction of the past and present inhabitants of the world should have been due to secondary causes, like those determining the birth and death of the individual." pg. 449.

BTW, to answer your question, atheism is the belief/faith that deity does not exist. Evolution is not atheism.

The real relationship between evolution (particularly natural selection) and atheism is more complicated. Before Darwin, the Argument from Design was an unanswerable "proof" for the existence of God. No one could see how organisms were designed unless plants and animals were manufactured by God. Natural selection is an unintelligent designer and suddenly the Argument from Design was gone as "proof" of the existence of God. God wasn't gone. Just that particular argument to try to prove God didn't work anymore.

What is "evolutionism"? Several people have used the term, and I've asked the question many times, but never gotten an answer. Will you please answer it? You use the term, after all, so you should know what you mean by it.

Only one fact for example. Do you know that scientific research showed that age of earth might be only about from 3000 year to 3000000 year when was counted by various (about 50-150) methods.

All those methods are flawed. Yes, we know about them. I'll be happy to go thru them with you, but consider this first: the earth is only one age, right? So how do you get a spread of ages that are 30,000 percent off? What kind of measuring technique or techniques would give such a wide range of values? After all, radiometric dating using several different isotope series only gives an age off by 2%. Not 30,000%! That right there tells you something is wrong with the methods.

Besides, Orange, hasn't anyone told you that it isn't the evidence for in science that is the most important, but the evidence against? If you look only for evidence supporting a theory, you will always find it. What you have to do is try to show the theory to be wrong or false. When you do that, creationism and young earth turn out to be false. There is evidence out there that simply can't be there if the earth is about 10,000 years old.

 

[Aduro Amnis]

Oh, by the way Orange Creation and Time is a book about Theistic Evolution "".

 

[ThePhoenix]

Third time you copied the same post. Reported