Why Attack Canada? This Is By Far Trump's Biggest Mistake So Far.

[mark46]

I understand picking a fight with China and Mexico. Trump's tactics and plans are unknown, but it does make sense.
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But why pick a fight with our #1 ally and #1 trade partner.

Nothing good will come of this. If Trump wanted to renegotiate the trade deal, Canada would be forced to do, especially with their political problems.

Canada is now unified as never before. Their government and people will have no problems accepting and retaliating against Trump actions. And Trump cannot simply reverse course on the tariffs and all the ideas about making Canada a 51st state.

Canada is a stable, rich country, with a people who will likely accept the inflation effects better than US consumers. Canada will retaliate and continue to retaliate with tariffs of its own. NOW MATTER WHAT happens in the future, fewer US products will be sold in Canada. The people are already buying CANADA instead of buying from the US. After they think about it for awhile, maybe they will simply buy more from the UK, Australis and from the EU.

My BOTTOM LINE is a simple one. The US has decided to reduce out closeness with Canada and it will harm our consumers. I see no way in which it can help.

For Canada, they have work to do. They will try to find new markets for many of their products. Surely, US consumers won't be willing to pay 25% more for Canadian goods. Of course, for some products, the prices will simply go up with no other effect (example: car parts).

 

[BCP1928]

I understand picking a fight with China and Mexico. Trump's tactics and plans are unknown, but it does make sense.
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But why pick a fight with our #1 ally and #1 trade partner.

Nothing good will come of this. If Trump wanted to renegotiate the trade deal, Canada would be forced to do, especially with their political problems.

Canada is now unified as never before. Their government and people will have no problems accepting and retaliating against Trump actions. And Trump cannot simply reverse course on the tariffs and all the ideas about making Canada a 51st state.

Canada is a stable, rich country, with a people who will likely accept the inflation effects better than US consumers. Canada will retaliate and continue to retaliate with tariffs of its own. NOW MATTER WHAT happens in the future, fewer US products will be sold in Canada. The people are already buying CANADA instead of buying from the US. After they think about it for awhile, maybe they will simply buy more from the UK, Australis and from the EU.

My BOTTOM LINE is a simple one. The US has decided to reduce out closeness with Canada and it will harm our consumers. I see no way in which it can help.

For Canada, they have work to do. They will try to find new markets for many of their products. Surely, US consumers won't be willing to pay 25% more for Canadian goods. Of course, for some products, the prices will simply go up with no other effect (example: car parts).

Because they're "woke" that's why. No other reason is necessary these days.

 

[mark46]

Because they're "woke" that's why. No other reason is necessary these days.

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Is Denmark next? Sweden? Norway?

 

[BCP1928]

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Is Denmark next? Sweden? Norway?

They're all NATO members, too. All Trump has to do is invade Canada and he can take them on all at once.

 

[DaisyDay]

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Is Denmark next? Sweden? Norway?

Greenland and Panama, per Donald.

 

[Bradskii]

Greenland and Panama, per Donald.

Soon to be Red-White-And-Blueland and PanaMAGA.

 

[DaisyDay]

Soon to be Red-White-And-Blueland and PanaMAGA.

Do people really think this threat of forcible annexation is good or decent?

 

[Bradskii]

Do people really think this threat of forcible annexation is good or decent?

It won't matter to what is unfortunately a significant amount of people.

 

[Aaron112]

My BOTTOM LINE is a simple one. The US has decided to reduce out closeness with Canada and it will harm our consumers. I see no way in which it can help.

OR, the usa is simply a pawn in the game.... doing as usual what it is told to do, wittingly or not.

 

[FireDragon76]

OR, the usa is simply a pawn in the game.... doing as usual what it is told to do, wittingly or not.

It's a fire sale. The real puppemasters behind Trump, the ones paying the bills and come up with many of his ideas, are wealthy oligarch that profit off of wealth extraction, predation, and human misery.

 

[Pommer]

I understand picking a fight with China and Mexico. Trump's tactics and plans are unknown, but it does make sense.
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But why pick a fight with our #1 ally and #1 trade partner.

Nothing good will come of this. If Trump wanted to renegotiate the trade deal, Canada would be forced to do, especially with their political problems.

Canada is now unified as never before. Their government and people will have no problems accepting and retaliating against Trump actions. And Trump cannot simply reverse course on the tariffs and all the ideas about making Canada a 51st state.

Canada is a stable, rich country, with a people who will likely accept the inflation effects better than US consumers. Canada will retaliate and continue to retaliate with tariffs of its own. NOW MATTER WHAT happens in the future, fewer US products will be sold in Canada. The people are already buying CANADA instead of buying from the US. After they think about it for awhile, maybe they will simply buy more from the UK, Australis and from the EU.

My BOTTOM LINE is a simple one. The US has decided to reduce out closeness with Canada and it will harm our consumers. I see no way in which it can help.

For Canada, they have work to do. They will try to find new markets for many of their products. Surely, US consumers won't be willing to pay 25% more for Canadian goods. Of course, for some products, the prices will simply go up with no other effect (example: car parts).

The “thinking”:
Canada and Mexico are only pretending to “be our friends” but they always try and get the best out of a deal and leech off of our great Nation all of the time! True friends put up with erratic behavior and if they don’t rattle, we’ll cease shaking the cage!

 

[KCfromNC]

Do people really think

Found the problem right here.

 

[mark46]

The “thinking”:
Canada and Mexico are only pretending to “be our friends” but they always try and get the best out of a deal and leech off of our great Nation all of the time! True friends put up with erratic behavior and if they don’t rattle, we’ll cease shaking the cage!

Canada has been the #1 friend/ally of the US for over 100 years.
Congrats to Trump on unilaterally decreasing tourists and business visitors from Canada and for getting Canadians to reduce their purchases of US goods.

This will happen whether Trump backs down or not.
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I UNDERSTAND that these are tactics by Trump. They have already worked with Panama who has decided not to renew their trade arrangement with China. It has worked with Mexico who (for a 30 day pause) has agreed to moving 10,000 Mexican troops on the border.

With regard to Greenland, this is simply the ravings of an autocrat who wants to gain territory. Greenlanders want more US businesses to operate there and want more US military to operate there. Only 6% want the US to take over Greenland.

 

[mark46]

Do people really think this threat of forcible annexation is good or decent?

Why do you think that this matters to Trump or MAGA Republicans?

 

[mark46]

The “thinking”:
Canada and Mexico are only pretending to “be our friends” but they always try and get the best out of a deal and leech off of our great Nation all of the time! True friends put up with erratic behavior and if they don’t rattle, we’ll cease shaking the cage!

You must understand that the DEAL was negotiated by Trump. It comes up for renewal soon under his administration. If trump wants a better deal for the US, he could certainly insist on it as part of the negotiations.

You keep pairing Canada and Mexico (and ignoring China). You also ignore the promised tariffs on the EU.

I'm 100% fine with Trump being heavy-handed with Mexico (and yes, even Panama) to secure their cooperation with regard to illegal migration and cartels.
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My issue is with Trump is with regard to his treatment of Canada. US will pay for this over the next many years. If we replace Canadian imports with US production, there will be no great cost other than increased prices and one fewer close ally.

 

[rambot]

Thwre is no sensible reason foe this.


I think Trump had a bit of a vendetta against Trudeau after Trudeau was caught on mic making fun of Trump during round 1

 

[DaisyDay]

Thwre is no sensible reason foe this.


I think Trump had a bit of a vendetta against Trudeau after Trudeau was caught on mic making fun of Trump during round 1

And there were photos of Melania making eyes at Pierre.