Why do people argue about things they cannot prove or disprove....cause its fun. But there is no real purpose of arguement except for the sake of hearing oneself speak.
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What things are people argueing that cant be proven or disproven?
because, things that cant be proven or disproven, still have a very real impact on the world.
because, things that cant be proven or disproven, still have a very real impact on the world.
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Partially because debate is fun.
And partially because, in the case of creationism and evolution, there are real-world consequences (such as some people deciding what should be taught in science class because of their religious belief).
And partially because, in the case of creationism and evolution, there are real-world consequences (such as some people deciding what should be taught in science class because of their religious belief).
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They have an impact on the world because the fact stands that people are stupid and need to believe in somthing or they will think their life is meaningless. When in fact life is meaningless. You are born because your parents had sex, you die because everything dies. Why does life have to have a purpose? But i agree there is a purpose, to live. Poeple who commit suicide realize that life doesent really have a purpose and that since they are going to die anyway why not just make it less painful and do themselves in, instad of having endless hartbreak and strife. Now i would never kill myself because I dont have the guts to, and right now im enjoying the simple pleasures of life. (sex, money, drugs) Who are you to say that what i do is wrong, and who are you to say what you do isnt wrong.
ITS ALL A PARADOX AND AN ENDLESS CYCLE OF POINTLESS DEBAIT!
ITS ALL A PARADOX AND AN ENDLESS CYCLE OF POINTLESS DEBAIT!
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sorry about the mispelling. Ive been typing on this forum for like 3 hours now and my wrists are about to give out so im trying to type fast so i can get through with it and rest. And no i didnt contradict myself. Its called showing different view points for the sake of making people think differently. In a sense i play the devil's advocate. I type not only for other people to say, but I type it so i can have daily affermation of the vaildity in my arguements.
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what an excellent reason for being. I might have to follow your lead!JGMEERT said:
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Fun? Yeah, sure it's fun. It's gonna be hilarious when our next generation of biologists sets out to breed healthier goats and does it by putting stripped branches in front of them. Oh yes that'll be fun.Vintersorg said:
It's gonna be even more fun when we decide to change the study of medicine over to the study of Leviticus. We'll even have a cure for leprosy. One that doesn't work, but hey, it's a CURE!
Our space program will be amazing. Put an astronaut on a rocket, launch him and pray it gets to Mars... or where ever you're trying to go.
And we can forget about DNA testing to determine paternity. With virgins giving birth all over the place there won't be any need for that...
We argue, both sides, in order to oppose what we perceive as ignorance.
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Personally, I argue to combat the forces of ignorance everywhere.
I don't mean ignorance as in bigotry, or Hovindish ignorance, I mean a lack of knowledge.
I don't mean ignorance as in bigotry, or Hovindish ignorance, I mean a lack of knowledge.
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yes but if you associate ignorance on a universal level we are all ignorant, some more than others. But just because you tell someone about something doesent mean they are going to believe it.
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Some people live their lives researching the things that the otherside claims never happened. Wouldn't that be reason enough for them to "argue" over the topic?Vintersorg said:
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I was hoping someone would get here... The folks that argue evolution is correct have the facts, those that argue against are just willfully ignorant.Bushido216 said:
That's a huge difference if you ask me.
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In my opinion people who search their whole life for the truth and dont find it, just wasted their entire life. And no one has proven evolution, if you think they have, then post the facts on this forum so i can read them.
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You need to be more clear. You mean people who search their entire lives and don't find YOUR truth...Vintersorg said:
Evolution is fact. The provenance has been posted all over this forum, time and time again. Micro, macro... no difference.
However, since you're into proof? Offer proof of your assertions. Since you're adding things like gods and messiahs to the universe, it's your burden to offer proof. PROVE God exists, PROVE Jesus even existed. PROVE that the Bible is more than a semi-historical recounting of events from 4,000 years or so ago. Jump at this chance! You can clear this all up in a matter of moments... Or can you?
Proof is a double edged sword you know. If you demand it you may find you're required to present it.
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One Smelly Amoeba
Job 9:25-26
"Now my days are swifter than a runner; they flee away, they see no good. They pass by like swift ships, like an eagle swooping on its prey."
Not all dangerous predators can be seen. One of the most dangerous predators in a drop of pond water is Amoeba proteus. This amoeba literally terrorizes its one-celled pond-mates because they can smell him coming to engulf them. Among his favorite snacks are one-celled creatures of the genus Euplotes. But Euplotes can defend themselves. When some members of this genus smell the amoeba coming they dart away to safety. Others can grow pikes to defend themselves. Some can even grow hard shells to protect themselves.
This scenario leaves a problem for evolution. What benefit to a predator is there in warning it's prey? Evolution should have selected against the amoeba's ability to produce its unique scent, called the A-factor. Now a new discovery has revealed the amoeba's scent is really a clever design, pointing to a Designer. These amoebas reproduce by splitting, so they are surrounded by clones. The A-factor is just strong enough to allow the proteus to identify clone?mates so that they don't eat each other, but not so strong that it prevents proteus from getting enough to eat.
God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to save us from another unseen predator, the devil. The evil in the world is the warning scent of the devil's presence. God has placed many evidences within the creation that He is the Creator so that as our relatively few days on this earth flee by, we will be drawn to His Son, and, believing in Him, receive forgiveness and salvation from sin, death and the devil.
Prayer: We thank, You, dear Father, that in Your love, You sent Your Son to save me from sin, death and the devil. Amen.
Job 9:25-26
"Now my days are swifter than a runner; they flee away, they see no good. They pass by like swift ships, like an eagle swooping on its prey."
Not all dangerous predators can be seen. One of the most dangerous predators in a drop of pond water is Amoeba proteus. This amoeba literally terrorizes its one-celled pond-mates because they can smell him coming to engulf them. Among his favorite snacks are one-celled creatures of the genus Euplotes. But Euplotes can defend themselves. When some members of this genus smell the amoeba coming they dart away to safety. Others can grow pikes to defend themselves. Some can even grow hard shells to protect themselves.
This scenario leaves a problem for evolution. What benefit to a predator is there in warning it's prey? Evolution should have selected against the amoeba's ability to produce its unique scent, called the A-factor. Now a new discovery has revealed the amoeba's scent is really a clever design, pointing to a Designer. These amoebas reproduce by splitting, so they are surrounded by clones. The A-factor is just strong enough to allow the proteus to identify clone?mates so that they don't eat each other, but not so strong that it prevents proteus from getting enough to eat.
God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to save us from another unseen predator, the devil. The evil in the world is the warning scent of the devil's presence. God has placed many evidences within the creation that He is the Creator so that as our relatively few days on this earth flee by, we will be drawn to His Son, and, believing in Him, receive forgiveness and salvation from sin, death and the devil.
Prayer: We thank, You, dear Father, that in Your love, You sent Your Son to save me from sin, death and the devil. Amen.
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you just explained your own argument against a designer away: the use of the A factor is to dinstinguish between relatives, so that the genetic line carries on.Chilli_Pepper said:
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