Why are you so?

[Maranatha27]

In this time in History with all that is going on around us...like the overload of information, through internet, TV and Newspapers, The reality of multiple world views and the clash of them: Why are you so? Why are you sure that Christianity and Christ are correct or why Is your non-christian faith or lack of faith sound in your own mind and heart. Why are you at peace in your own being that you have chosen the right path?

 

[drich0150]

It has little to do with self assurance. It is the Holy Spirit that gives us/me "faith in my heart and in my mind."

 

[Maranatha27]

It has little to do with self assurance. It is the Holy Spirit that gives us/me "faith in my heart and in my mind."

So you are saying that God has come "within" you and thats why you're sure. So now I'm guessing you have no doubts and have perfect communion with God now that hes in you. Is that true?

 

[joey_downunder]

For me it is all the actual physical and historical evidence that supports Christianity.

http://www.tektonics.org/mainhub.html

Internet Ancient History Sourcebook: Christian Origins

Sometimes atheists try to disprove Christianity and fail.

Josh McDowell Testimony - Transcripts-JMM

 

[solarwave]

I am not sure that I have chosen the right path at the moment, but I can tel lyou why I think Christianity is true:

1) Healings in Jesus' name: I have seen and heard of many genuinely sounding healings (fast ones, not placebo over a long time).

2) Evidence for Jesus' Resurrection: It says it in the title.

3) Morality: I believe right and wrong are actually right and wrong and that this is likely held in the absolute mind which gives the universe value.

4) Religious Experience: Coincidences/God-incidences

There may be other reasons and the above are in order of most to least convincing to me at the moment.

 

[drich0150]

So you are saying that God has come "within" you and thats why you're sure. So now I'm guessing you have no doubts and have perfect communion with God now that hes in you. Is that true?

Actually No, I very specifically said in my first post that the self assurance of our salvation has nothing to do with our own personal feelings. The gift of assurance is a product of the Spirit.

 

[salida]

A couple reasons. First, I can't deny what happened to me spiritually-its like me denying that I'm presently typing this or saying the sun is the moon.

Next,
I suggest he research the credibility of the bible concerning overwhelming evidence which is very high even though it’s a spiritual decision first.
Visit: www.TheBibleProofBook.com, (you will need acrobat reader for this), read The Evidence That Demands A Verdict by Josh McDowell a former agnostic- (its overwhelming circumstantial evidence of bible) and Examine the Evidence by Muncaster a former athiest/The Case for Christ and The Real Jesus by Lee Strobel a former athiest. www.equip.org (articles), http://www.gotquestions.org/
http://christiananswers.net/

http://www.emjc3.com/proof/ChristianityIsAFactYouCanProveIt.pdf　
http://www.emjc3.com/prophecy101.htm
http://www.emjc3.com/proof/WhyTheBibleIs100PercentAccurate.pdf
http://www.bible-truth.org/Principles.htm


Are you a good person? www.livingwaters.com/good/

I have studied other worldviews and religions and none come close to this evidence.

 

[salida]

More info:
http://www.gospeloutreach.net/bible.html


Internal Evidence (prophesies confirmed within bible)
Life of Christ
The Tribe of Judah, Gen 49:10 - Luke 3:23-28
(Genesis was written 4004 BC to 1689 BC)
(Lukes time period 60-70 AD)
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Royal Line of David, Jer 23:5 - Matt 1:1
(Jeremiah 760 to 698 BC)/(Matthew 60 - 70 AD)
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Born of a Virgin, Isaiah 7:14 - Matt 1:18-23
(Isaiah 760 to 698 BC)/(Matthew 60 - 70 AD)
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Rise of Empires
In the book of Daniel, Chapter 2 - four kingdoms are described in the interpretation of a dream of
Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greek - Daniel 8:21, 10:20/and the fourth
great kingdom to follow- part iron and clay-which is the Roman Empire. During this empire Christ came and his church was established.
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Historical Accuracy
The bible is loaded with historical statements concerning events hundreds of years ago and has not
been proven incorrect in any.
(Bible compared to other ancient documents):
New Testament starts - at 25 years between original and first surviving copies
Homer - starts at 500 years
Demosthenes - at 1400 years
Plato - at 1200 years
Caesar - at 1000 years
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Number of Manuscript Copies-New Testament - 5,686/Homer - 643/Demosthenes - 200/
Plato - 7/Caesar -10
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Consistency/Written by God
Written by at least 40 men over a period of time exceeding 1400 years and has no internal inconsistencies.
It claims to be spoken by God, 2 Timothy 3:16-17. No other religious book makes such claim.
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External Evidences (prophesies outside bible)
These cities were prophesied to be destroyed and never built again.
Nineveh - Nahum 1:10, 3:7,15, Zephaniah 2:13-14
Babylon - Isaiah 13:1-22
Tyre - Ezekiel 26:1-28
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Bible before Science- He hangs the earth on nothing-Job 26:7/Earth is a sphere-Isaiah 40:22
Air has weight-Job 28:25/Gravity-Job 26:7, Job 38:31-33/Winds blow in cyclones, Eccl 1:6
(Job was written at least 1000 years ago; some scholars think 3000 years ago)
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Documents that Prove Bible is True
Gilgamesh Epic, The Sumerian King List, Mari Tablets, Babylonian Chronicles
Archeological Finds
Excavations of Ur, Location of Zoar, Ziggurats and the foundation of Tower of Babel

 

[Maranatha27]

We have a bunch of Christians that are sure, any atheists or non-christian faiths that would like to share would be nice.

 

[Key]

Why are you at peace in your own being that you have chosen the right path?

I believe I have chosen the right path because I am at peace with it.

If we all found peace in the paths we have chosen, the world would be a better place.

God Bless.

 

[aiki]

We have a bunch of Christians that are sure, any atheists or non-christian faiths that would like to share would be nice.

This is the "Exploring Christianity" forum, not "Exploring Atheism or Non-Christian Faiths" forum.

Selah.

 

[AlexBP]

In this time in History with all that is going on around us...like the overload of information, through internet, TV and Newspapers, The reality of multiple world views and the clash of them: Why are you so? Why are you sure that Christianity and Christ are correct or why Is your non-christian faith or lack of faith sound in your own mind and heart. Why are you at peace in your own being that you have chosen the right path?

I am a Christian because when I read the Gospels I agreed with what Jesus said and did. That is not to say that I believe because of this fact or that fact. Truly enough, I believe in many of the facts and commands that Jesus put forward. I believe in the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman. I believe that money corrupts people and that giving it away to the poor is the best thing to do with it. I believe in meeting hatred with love and violence with non-violence. Those things are just a few of the facts and commands where I'm in full agreement with what Jesus said. But like I said, I do not believe because I agree with a certain list of facts, but rather because I believe that the approach Jesus Christ uses is the correct one. In the Gospels I see that He did not always answer questions, but often replied to questions with new questions and tried to provoke the questioners into thinking for themselves. And I see that He frequently spoke in parables that were left open for interpretation. And I see that when He did give commands it was never with specific instructions to do a certain amount of good deeds, but rather a pointer in a specific direction that left open the question of how much good is good enough. And these are the methods that I believe in, so that's why I became a follower of Jesus.

As for the overflow of information in our modern age, I find that it works in favor of Christianity, rather than against it. When I read material that's against Christianity, whether from secular sources or other religions, the sharp contrast between the narrow and small-minded approach of that material and the great and generous approach of Jesus makes me appreciate Jesus all the more.

 

[drich0150]

I love debates and am always up for it.

Appearently not...

 

[Ayersy]

I'm an existential and moral nihilist, I believe in nothing beyond the physical, and that life has no particular meaning or purpose. I also believe morality is a man made system of control.

I believe I'm right because I logically cannot see any way in which anything supernatural to exist, and there is no evidence to the contrary to convince me otherwise.

 

[Maranatha27]

I'm an atheist. I am the way I am due to the lack of any evidence for a god. existenceAlso the lack of evidence even for jesus's . Also the bible/quaren/etc are all morally corrupt and the gods are shown to be megalomaniacal. The bible/quaren are both books or death, destruction, rape, murder, and other insane ideas. I could go on for hours on contractions and why the bible is really a load of bs. But this is the way I think/feel about the religion, not the people, I love the people because I know where they are and have been there before.


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I love debates and am always up for it.

Fair enough, You are the way you are because the Bible and the Koran have no validity in your eyes. I can see your point of view. Though how well do you know Bible? Is your understanding of the Bible, only from Humanists? Thanks for posting

 

[Maranatha27]

I'm an existential and moral nihilist, I believe in nothing beyond the physical, and that life has no particular meaning or purpose. I also believe morality is a man made system of control.

I believe I'm right because I logically cannot see any way in which anything supernatural to exist, and there is no evidence to the contrary to convince me otherwise.

This is a pretty depressing view of life. How far have you searched the scriptures? What do you think the basic doctrines of Christianity are? Would you consider Israel in the land of Egypt a fact of history or a wild tale?

 

[SanFrank]

OP,
We are actually spirit beings and G*d communicates to the spiritual through prayer. There is an intellectual element involved too. There is also grace from above when G*d calls his children to Him. This calling differentiates the right path from the wrong path as far as spiritual communication is concerned. Because there are many wrong paths.

 

[Maranatha27]

I was raised in a Hardcore Baptist home. Super fundi type stuff. I understand the bible extensively, much more then most people who are religious. I have read it front to back a few times. Well like twice then random sections. I for one find the "You have to let the holy ghost guide you to read it" idea to be crazy. All that means is your god failed in his main mission, to impart the words he wanted upon his people. I read the book for what it is, what the words mean as there is no other logical way.

Ok, thanks for the response

 

[aiki]

In this time in History with all that is going on around us...like the overload of information, through internet, TV and Newspapers, The reality of multiple world views and the clash of them: Why are you so? Why are you sure that Christianity and Christ are correct or why Is your non-christian faith or lack of faith sound in your own mind and heart. Why are you at peace in your own being that you have chosen the right path?

Because God is. Not because I feel He is; for tomorrow I may feel differently. Not because reasoned arguments convince me that He is; for tomorrow I may begin to doubt what once convinced me. Not because I want Him to exist; for tomorrow my wants may change and God may become inconvenient. No, I believe in God because He is as obvious as the universe He has made, as near as my own thoughts, as real as His countless answers to prayer, and as true as the great and precious promises He has fulfilled to me.

I could pretend, as so many do, that He has never been, but the foolishness of that fiction is too great for me to sustain. I could shake my fist in defiance of His Soveriegnty and resolve to steer my own course, but I have only to look about me at the countless human shipwrecks to see the terrible folly in placing a blind man at life's helm. I could wall myself in with human "science" and "logic" "til I had erected a fortress unassailable, massive and immoveable. But the builders of these keeps grow cold and blinded by the very walls they erect; they are so proud of the power of their stronghold to obscure God they never realize that these same walls also imprison them.

God is. This is, as far as I'm concerned, a simple, brute fact, which no amount of denial will erase.

Selah.

 

[Maranatha27]

Because God is. Not because I feel He is; for tomorrow I may feel differently. Not because reasoned arguments convince me that He is; for tomorrow I may begin to doubt what once convinced me. Not because I want Him to exist; for tomorrow my wants may change and God may become inconvenient. No, I believe in God because He is as obvious as the universe He has made, as near as my own thoughts, as real as His countless answers to prayer, and as true as the great and precious promises He has fulfilled to me.

I could pretend, as so many do, that He has never been, but the foolishness of that fiction is too great for me to sustain. I could shake my fist in defiance of His Soveriegnty and resolve to steer my own course, but I have only to look about me at the countless human shipwrecks to see the terrible folly in placing a blind man at life's helm. I could wall myself in with human "science" and "logic" "til I had erected a fortress unassailable, massive and immoveable. But the builders of these keeps grow cold and blinded by the very walls they erect; they are so proud of the power of their stronghold to obscure God they never realize that these same walls also imprison them.

God is. This is, as far as I'm concerned, a simple, brute fact, which no amount of denial will erase.

Selah.

I agree wholeheartedly