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Where do you live that you can't smoke in your car?No one is mandating?
Where I live you can get a ticket for smoking in a car with kids. You cannot smoke in restaurants. You cannot smoke indoors, basically anywhere.
So.....what are you talking about "no one is mandating an end to it"? It's not permitted.
And drunk drivers? What?
I don't konw if you were aware but drunk driving is actually illegal and you can lose your licence, huge fines, jail time. What kind of mandate does it require in your mind?
Yes. Everyone does.Really? Because I've made my own choices about what to eat, drink and what meds to take ever since becoming an adult.
You can't smoke in your car with children present.Where do you live that you can't smoke in your car?
Pretty sure we still have smoking and non smoking bars here. But it's not my scene.
I remember the dance club for teens used to allow smoking but it's been a bit since I was a teenager.
Ok so says the internet:You can't smoke in your car with children present.
Alberta Canada.
And yeah, where I live, there's no smoking in bars, or restaurants. Is that NOT the case in the US? Do you all still have smoking and nonsmoking sections?
Is this the stuff you're talking about where America is the land of the free and Canada is a totalitarian state?
No, I think you missed the point because you chose to respond to my response to someone else. That other person made the claim that we have the choice to put whatever we want into our bodies - food, drink, injections - whatever. I said that wasn't true (because it's not, because we don't have that kind of freedom). That person never responded (probably realized they were wrong) but you disagreed with me even though I was responding to someone else's claim.I think you missed the point. We were talking about food, drink and medicine and suddenly it's about heroin?
Unfortunately peoples stupidity cannot be tackled by legislation, particularly where addiction is part of the problem. Addiction is a medical problem not a legislative one.I think there are two main reasons - the failure of Prohibition and the War on Drugs and the enormous wealth of tobacco producers.
The science has been followed in the restrictions placed on tobacco subsidies, sales and use.
In CA you can't smoke or are encouraged not to smoke in cars with infants, kids or minors. No we aren't to allowed to smoke in bars or any publics buildings . Or around buildings at hospitals. I'm happy CA is trying to keep us safe. Most people in CA, understand the dangers of second hand smoke. And try not to damage their kids and loved ones lungs. Imagine being taught common sense . It works when people truly care about people.Where do you live that you can't smoke in your car?
Pretty sure we still have smoking and non smoking bars here. But it's not my scene.
I remember the dance club for teens used to allow smoking but it's been a bit since I was a teenager.
In CA you can't smoke or are encouraged not to smoke in cars with infants, kids or minors. No we aren't to allowed to smoke in bars or any publics buildings . Or around buildings at hospitals. I'm happy CA is trying to keep us safe. Most people in CA, understand the dangers of second hand smoke. And try not to damage their kids and loved ones lungs. Imagine being taught common sense . It works when people truly care about people.
Yet there is no health mandate to prevent the deaths. 480,000 a year not one mandate to stop it.
Because idiot people complain when told to do something that would benefit them. It happens in the UK as well.And it is still the leading cause of preventable deaths - why are we not following the science and preventing 480,000 deaths a year?
Fair enough but if you’re comparing smoking to the virus then I don’t understand how you get banning tobacco as an analogous solution. You’d have to ban the production, sale and possession of tobacco. We don’t do that with the virus. It’s not illegal to test positive for covid or to pass it on to others or even to be unvaccinated. In many ways tobacco is already much more heavily regulated than COVID-19.Incorrect - read the link - the cause for all of the 480,000 deaths a year is from the act of smoking.
You do realize that the vast majority of Covid deaths have had other issues also, like diabetes, overweight, heart and breathing issues to begin with. The deaths are connected to a number different mitigating circumstances, not from just a specific virus.
Smoking, like the virus is the common thread with all the deaths we are comparing. Eliminate the virus - eliminate the deaths from the virus visa vi eliminate smoking and eliminate the deaths from smoking.
Just because there are boundaries on the field doesn't mean you can't choose your plays. We still have thousands of choices as to what to put into our bodies or not.No, I think you missed the point because you chose to respond to my response to someone else. That other person made the claim that we have the choice to put whatever we want into our bodies - food, drink, injections - whatever. I said that wasn't true (because it's not, because we don't have that kind of freedom). That person never responded (probably realized they were wrong) but you disagreed with me even though I was responding to someone else's claim.
We don't have the freedom to put whatever we want into our bodies. We don't even have the freedom to do whatever we want with our own bodies (especially women). We have the government and laws that tell us what we can or can't put into our bodies.
Imagine living in CA, the mecca of more and more restrictions on human rights. I'd rather not.In CA you can't smoke or are encouraged not to smoke in cars with infants, kids or minors. No we aren't to allowed to smoke in bars or any publics buildings . Or around buildings at hospitals. I'm happy CA is trying to keep us safe. Most people in CA, understand the dangers of second hand smoke. And try not to damage their kids and loved ones lungs. Imagine being taught common sense . It works when people truly care about people.
Fair enough but if you’re comparing smoking to the virus then I don’t understand how you get banning tobacco as an analogous solution. You’d have to ban the production, sale and possession of tobacco. We don’t do that with the virus. It’s not illegal to test positive for covid or to pass it on to others or even to be unvaccinated. In many ways tobacco is already much more heavily regulated than COVID-19.
But if you threaten to intentionally pass COVID to others, you can be jailed... Yet the tobacco industry is actively marketing and selling tobacco products.
You can? Where?
Because you are threatening others. The tobacco industry is not. Stark difference.But if you threaten to intentionally pass COVID to others, you can be jailed... Yet the tobacco industry is actively marketing and selling tobacco products.
Because you are threatening others. The tobacco industry is not. Stark difference.
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