Why are we disliked so much?

[pdudgeon]

It isn't, at least not near as I can tell. Sure there will always be those who dislike it, but "so much" ie implying widespread? Nah.

widespread, yes.
two words--Chick Tracts. I won't name denominations here, but there are 4 of them who are known to pointedly dislike Catholics.
We see it every day in the political forums.

 

[bill5]

I wouldn't equate this site (or any other web site for that matter) to our society on the whole, so people here railing against Catholics (and even here I think they are in the minority) doesn't mean it applies everywhere...so, again, not widespread. Unless I happen to always find myself in unusually "pro-Catholic" areas, as I have seen/heard/experienced almost none, let alone it being some common or widespread thing. And keep in mind I live in the "Bible Belt" (and have done my share of traveling). It's not like I'm just hanging out in Catholic circles or areas.

I know it's all the rage for people to carry on about being hated or "oppressed," but the Catholics "haters" are by far the exception even among Protestants on the whole, so I can't see that it's a valid concern. If others have experienced a lot of it, I'm curious what area you're in where this is so.

 

[Miss Shelby]

I have heard people in person say they hate the Catholic church. Mostly it's apostate losers who want to shirk their own personal responsibility, so they blame the Church for that. And that, unfortunately, is pretty widespread.

Also, there was a thread on fb about the Pope announcing women would never be allowed to be ordained. Holy Mother of Unhinged did the freaks come out of the wood work on that one. So, while it may seem that it is confined to social media, I tend to believe that people say what they really feel when they're sitting at work playing on their phones and posting on social and religious websites.

 

[bill5]

I have heard people in person say they hate the Catholic church. Mostly it's apostate losers who want to shirk their own personal responsibility, so they blame the Church for that. And that, unfortunately, is pretty widespread.

Not following how you heard someone say it means it's widespread.

Don't even get me started on facebook......

 

[Miss Shelby]

It wasnt just one person. It's a COMMON theme amongst apostate Catholics. Because either the nuns were mean to them, or the Pope wouldn't hand out condoms in Africa to prevent aids, or that the Church discriminates against women, or the that the church hates all gay people. I have heard that directly from people's mouths. And I am sure I am not the only one.

 

[bill5]

It wasnt just one person.

About how many then? 2? 3? A dozen?

Whatever it is, I very seriously doubt that it extrapolates to some rampant Catholic hate nationwide. That sounds like BLM logic: take a few isolate cases and therefore conclude it's widespread.

It's a COMMON theme amongst apostate Catholics.

That I don't doubt, but that's quite a shift from all Protestants or society in general.....

 

[Miss Shelby]

I would gladly replace the word hate with contempt for the sake of this thread. I don't think we are on the verge of anti Catholic violent revolution. I do think the contempt runs through apostates, protestants, atheists (apostate Catholics) and certain members of tenured college professors who would be crushed in the professional world.

 

[Miss Shelby]

I would say over the years, dozens.

 

[pdudgeon]

I wouldn't equate this site (or any other web site for that matter) to our society on the whole, so people here railing against Catholics (and even here I think they are in the minority) doesn't mean it applies everywhere...so, again, not widespread. Unless I happen to always find myself in unusually "pro-Catholic" areas, as I have seen/heard/experienced almost none, let alone it being some common or widespread thing. And keep in mind I live in the "Bible Belt" (and have done my share of traveling). It's not like I'm just hanging out in Catholic circles or areas.

I know it's all the rage for people to carry on about being hated or "oppressed," but the Catholics "haters" are by far the exception even among Protestants on the whole, so I can't see that it's a valid concern. If others have experienced a lot of it, I'm curious what area you're in where this is so.

i think the point here is twofold;
1. Catholic-hating has to be sanctioned by some sort of authority to become widespread. otherwise it remains but a pipe dream.

2. in order to survive it needs a society in which rewards and positive recognition are associated with it.

these two things when put together, form a powerful incentive and support for the society as a whole to come to this way of thinking.

and in order for that to happen a thought framework must be constructed, and that framework must be seen to appeal to intelligent, thoughtful, and forward-thinking people.
And it must be something that will result in the furtherment of the human race.

We've seen these sorts of plans before.
They're not new, they're just repackaged.
a classic example would be the French Revolution as it affected Catholics.
or Hitler and the effect of his ideas on the Jews.

 

[Goatee]

In a thread at the mo where others are having a go at Catholic doctrine / beliefs. They are so, so anti-Catholic!!!!

 

[seekingsolace]

I don't understand the issue if we are holding to our namesake as Christians. Equally I see contempt amongst professing believers of all faiths, this should not be.

"Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake."

 

[prodromos]

They are all intelligent and nice. Every single one of them.

There have been a couple of horrendous ones come to light here in Australia. The bishops seriously failed to shepherd their sheep when they allowed those wolves to be ordained.

 

[pdudgeon]

I wouldn't equate this site (or any other web site for that matter) to our society on the whole, so people here railing against Catholics (and even here I think they are in the minority) doesn't mean it applies everywhere...so, again, not widespread. Unless I happen to always find myself in unusually "pro-Catholic" areas, as I have seen/heard/experienced almost none, let alone it being some common or widespread thing. And keep in mind I live in the "Bible Belt" (and have done my share of traveling). It's not like I'm just hanging out in Catholic circles or areas.

I know it's all the rage for people to carry on about being hated or "oppressed," but the Catholics "haters" are by far the exception even among Protestants on the whole, so I can't see that it's a valid concern. If others have experienced a lot of it, I'm curious what area you're in where this is so.

Do you know anyone who belongs to the Masonic Lodge?

 

[pdudgeon]

In a thread at the mo where others are having a go at Catholic doctrine / beliefs. They are so, so anti-Catholic!!!!

agreed. American Poitics is one of the forums in which you'll find open opposition to what Catholics believe in.
try supporting Pro life in there and see what happens.

 

[pdudgeon]

It wasnt just one person. It's a COMMON theme amongst apostate Catholics. Because either the nuns were mean to them, or the Pope wouldn't hand out condoms in Africa to prevent aids, or that the Church discriminates against women, or the that the church hates all gay people. I have heard that directly from people's mouths. And I am sure I am not the only one.

agreed. these are all widely-held opinions against Catholics.

 

[pdudgeon]

I don't understand the issue if we are holding to our namesake as Christians. Equally I see contempt amongst professing believers of all faiths, this should not be.

"Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake."

that's just it.
in a nutshell we are very close to entering the season of Advent; the anticipation of the birth of Our Lord, Jesus Christ. And yet we have Christians and athiests arguing against full term pregnancies, and supporting abortions.

Had Christ come into our world, what is the chance that the Virgin Mary would have been allowed to carry Him to full term?

 

[bill5]

Do you know anyone who belongs to the Masonic Lodge?

Which is relevant because......? Freemasons have nothing against Catholics.

agreed. these are all widely-held opinions against Catholics.

No they're not, but clearly I'm wasting my time. If you guys want to play the oppressed card, enjoy.

 

[Fantine]

I have seen enough Facebook posters writing, "You don't like [insert whatever sin is your hot button issue]? Then don't do it," to understand what people dislike about Catholics. They don't want to be constrained by the morality of a religious doctrine they don't believe in, even though they have no objection to the Catholics following it themselves.

Since I am the kind of Catholic who doesn't "should" on people, I don't find that being a Catholic makes me unlikeable. I believe in Pope Francis' adage, "Who am I to judge?" and try to practice it, even if I am not always successful.

But I believe that people who dislike Catholics don't really dislike their Catholicism. They just dislike people who try to impose their own morality on others who don't share it.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

They dislike us because our Churches and Cathedrals are more beautiful. Envy.

 

[pdudgeon]

Which is relevant because......? Freemasons have nothing against Catholics.

essentially they (freemasons) preach another gospel, and thus membership in their society is not approved.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_ban_of_Freemasonry

also during the French Revolution adhearants not only came against the ruling class of that day, but also against the priests of the Catholic Church.
http://www.historytoday.com/gemma-betros/french-revolution-and-catholic-church

No they're not, but clearly I'm wasting my time. If you guys want to play the oppressed card, enjoy.