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Do you believe in God or a book?

How do you know God? Voices? Or, does your spirit bear witness with the Holy Spirit, when God's Word is made known?
John 17:16-18 (New American Standard Bible)
"They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.


"Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth."
"As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. "

Grace and truth, GeneZ
 
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How do you know God? Voices? Or, does your spirit bear witness with the Holy Spirit, when God's Word is made known?
God's Word is not contained in a book.

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Originally Posted by belladonic-haze

I am just who I am and I am not going to deny who I am.....




Matthew 16:24-25 niv
"Then Jesus said to his disciples, "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will find it."
"Denying himself" in Matthew 16:24 doesn't mean the same as the "Deny who I am" in Belladonic_Haze's post. Jesus didn't mean "lie about who you are".
 
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God's Word is not contained in a book.

When Jesus was tempted by Satan? Matthew 4?

What did Jesus do to overcome the words of the Devil? Did Jesus speak from the top of his head?

Nope........ Jesus always quoted Scripture. Kept on saying, "It is written."

Satan does not want believers to recognize the power of the written Word. For if they did? He would have only unbelievers to toy with.


"Denying himself" in Matthew 16:24 doesn't mean the same as the "Deny who I am" in Belladonic_Haze's post. Jesus didn't mean "lie about who you are".

Wow... That was deep. Now I see. :scratch:


We are not to deny the following about who we are...

1 John 1:8 niv
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
And, it continues on.....


1 John 1:9-10 niv
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his Word has no place in our lives.
His Word has no place in their lives. Interesting it should say that.

Romans 3:4 niv
Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge."

Grace and truth, GeneZ
 
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God's Word is not contained in a book.


"Denying himself" in Matthew 16:24 doesn't mean the same as the "Deny who I am" in Belladonic_Haze's post. Jesus didn't mean "lie about who you are".
He meant be born again and stop sinning, which "homosexual christians" don't do.
 
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crazymichael: People are gay because?

1. They want to get attention
2. They are rebelling against their parents
3. They just want to engage in sinful behavior
4. It is not a choice, God made them gay
5. A combination of the first 3 choices.
6. Other

I don't think it's number 5... I don't think a 11yo girl decides that she'll be attracted to another girl in her class coz she wants attention, to rebel against parents, or she wants to do some sinning that day. When an 11yo girl is attracted to girls at school, I don't believe she chose it.. and I don't believe she has control over it.

So I pick number 4. I don't think it's a choice, and I think people are probably born already wired to be straight, gay, or bi.

 
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NewGuy101: He meant be born again and stop sinning, which "homosexual christians" don't do.

personally, I don't see many heterosexuals denying themselves from having relationships, experiencing love, making families... it's nice to have a partner. We can relate to why many homosexuals will follow their heart instead of being alone without that special partner.
 
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NewGuy101: He meant be born again and stop sinning, which "homosexual christians" don't do.

personally, I don't see many heterosexuals denying themselves from having relationships, experiencing love, making families... it's nice to have a partner. We can relate to why many homosexuals will follow their heart instead of being alone without that special partner.
Heterosexuality is God's design for human all beings, so you're supposed to have a partner of the opposite sex, experience love and make femailies in God's design while homosexuality is prohibited.
 
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NewGuy said:
Again that's irrelvant (because I already knew that), my question was asking why bother with the bible or the faith in the first place if you think it has errors.

And secondly, belief is essential, if you're going to read a book and you think it's a bunch of crap you're not going to bother with it.
So, obviously, those of us who have bothered with it to a considerable degree do not think it is a bunch of crap. Why do you continue loving somebody, even after you have found a flaw in their personality?

Because when something has enough good in it, that outways the minor flaws. In fact, the flaws help remind you that the thing, or person is real, and thus, makes it all that much more worthy of respect.

God's power is endless. If he had wanted to drop a completed work from the sky, he could have, and there would be nothing spectacular about it--God can do much more amazing things. Most of us have seen them at some point in our lives. My sighting is a human being; others have experiences of their own.

But, for humans to have recorded this timeline of cultures and beliefs concerning God--and the evolution of the concept of "God" from tribal warfare, through legalism, mysticism, prophesies, the arival of a human avatar, and the beginnings of the world's reaction to him, and for this recording to make sense, and, if studied, to have internal consistancy and continuity--That is a miracle.

And yes, some of those writers got some details wrong. You know, the dome of the Roman Pantheon was unrivaled in architecture for, what...15 Centuries? And the entrance the Pantheon--10 feet too short. Ever hear the phrase, "the flaw that makes the masterpiece"?
 
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relspace: Since I do not pursue people of any sex I must be neither straight, gay nor bisexual.

that would mean you're asexual I think

But I am not asexual. I am married and have 3 children. But, I never dated. And I certainly never looked at people like meat and had to decide which was kind that I prefered.
 
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NewGuy101: Heterosexuality is God's design for human all beings, so you're supposed to have a partner of the opposite sex, experience love and make femailies in God's design while homosexuality is prohibited.

can you relate to wanting a companion?


This isn't about what I feel or anyone feels but about God's design and purpose for humanity.
 
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relspace: But I am not asexual. I am married and have 3 children. But, I never dated. And I certainly never looked at people like meat and had to decide which was kind that I prefered.

k.. sounds pretty kewl actually. Yer not like Howard Stern.. God does know that I have some serious problems with his show... my friend is addicted to that crap
 
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Heterosexuality is God's design for human all beings, so you're supposed to have a partner of the opposite sex, experience love and make femailies in God's design while homosexuality is prohibited.

So I have to have a partner of the opposite sex? What if I don't want a partner at all? Is that against God's design for me?
 
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NewGuy101: This isn't about what I feel or anyone feels but about God's design and purpose for humanity.

k.. seriously, as far as I can tell, homosexuality isn't destroying God's purpose for humanity.

Nothing is going to destroy God's purpose for humanity...if not he wouldn't be God.
 
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