i am amazed that some are positing that the sex drive is a consciously driven impulse! It simply shocking to hear that it sounds so dense its incredible.
Ah... but nobody says any such thing (another good example of a strawman). All that is being said is that the mind and choice whether conscious or not plays a dominant role. This is abundantly obvious. The problem is that it makes this doctrine of the gay rights religion (that people are born homosexual) nonsensical.
People are all different and unique. I am good with babies and children, like cooking, and have absolutely no interest in spectator sports. Some people call that gender non-conformity which all these studies identify with a pre-natal determination of homosexuality. Pure garbage and utterly sickening. How depraved will these people go in thier denial of the responsibility for their own choices.
obviously the people saying it are against gay rights
Incorrect. I am for gay rights. The belief that there is anything wrong with homosexuality is a religious belief, and therefore religious freedom should guarantee the rights of homosexuals to pursue their chosen way of life in peace. The right of people to pursue their own choice of lifestyle MUST be respected, as long as it does not infringe on the same rights of others.
The problem is that I am also for religious freedom and the gay rights religion is not satisfied with this freedom, they want the right to force their beliefs on everyone else. They can believe that they are born homosexuals just as the guy on the street can believe that he is God, but that does not mean that I have to believe any such thing.
this basicly means that they are saying that those who are attracted to men but are not women are actually lying
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I certainly think that to assume that everyone who is claiming to be genuinely homosexual is lying is simply hilarious ( they probably dont know any and need to get out more out of their small universe)
I don't think they are lying. I think they are entitled to their own beliefs, but I don't have to share them.
I find this belief that some people are born without the ability to feel any attraction for the opposite sex to be just as hilarious - and sad - and sickening. Yes sickening, because it implies telling kids that you think have this "condition" that they have no choice in the lifestyle that they want to live. The right thing to tell them is that they will one day have the right to participate in a
love relationship and it will be entirely their
choice and no one elses whether to participate or not.
but they know full well that they wouldnt start sleeping with the same sex exclusively with all of the attendant social ostracisim and disaster that is likely to ensue with no desire for it at all.
This thinking is utter folly for the cause of gay rights. If you argue that homosexuals have no choice because the life forced on them is so horrible. Then you are making it indistinguishable from a disease. That is not the way to get people to respect them, but only to beg for a cure. The correct way to get respect is to tell the Christians with this belief that homosexuality is a sin, to stuff their religion, and to assert the right to make ones own choice of lifestyle.
The only thing wrong with this approach is that you cannot force a religious group to accept your lifestyle - which should not be a problem unless you are opposed to religious freedom.
The only other difficulty is the adoption of children. But this just puts you on the same footing as members of any religious group that have show that their religion/lifestyle will not in any way be harmful to a child's well being. I believe this case has already been made rather effectively already. Some Christians may disagree with it but they cannot force their religious beliefs on other people any more than the gay rights religion can.
Homosexuals are homosexual for the same reason as why heterosexuals are heterosexual.
No argument there.
That "same reason" seems to be that they think that sex is just about satisfying their own biological urges and because they like justifying their behavior by saying they have no control over their desires and thus no control over their behavior.
The alternative way of thinking says that sex is about love, which is the highest expression of our freewill. The very purpose of freewill is to give us the ability to love. Nothing can force us to love. In this way of thinking there are no homosexuals, heterosexuals or bisexuals, only human beings who can be children of God if they ask God into their lives.
Again, according to you God says it's a go! Hmmm...
