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What would an atheist "theology" entail? You seem to be the expert...
Every atheist I know considers what evidence is available and draws conclusions based upon that (roughly speaking). Is this way of evaluating the world around you something that always leads to atheism?
If someone were to tell me that they would prefer not to accommodate me because of my faith, you can bet I'd leave.
Problem is that those who bear a serious grudge against Christians tend to do things a little more inconvenient than simply asking them to take their business elsewhere.
Illegal?
Yes...still, once your kid has been shot to death, it's a little hard to see how legal sanctions can do much about it...
I can't help what other people think. I don't "interpret". I simply read...
Yes because every child who's been indoctrinated turns Atheist. Lady if this were true then Christianity would have collapsed by now
Hmmm???!?!
You're assuming that most parents force their faith on their kids. That just isn't so.
Anyone with a brain can figure out that same gender sex is not natural. It is as much a perversion of the natural sex drive as bestiality, or any other perversion.
Do you think that gay sex is natural because "animals do it"? I've heard that one a lot.
Guess what other sexual behaviors animals indulge in?
I warn you, however...animals do tend to behave like...well, animals, when it comes to sex..
The core of theist theology would be that there is a God or Gods giving rise to various creation stories.
The core of Atheism is the assumption of a Godless universe giving rise to diverse theories of the evolution of life, the material cosmos and such.
An atheist could very well indoctrinate their children in godless ideas, teach them that religion is evil, faith is imaginary etc.
You're assuming that most parents force their faith on their kids. That just isn't so.
Anyone with a brain can figure out that same gender sex is not natural. It is as much a perversion of the natural sex drive as bestiality, or any other perversion.
Do you think that gay sex is natural because "animals do it"? I've heard that one a lot.
Guess what other sexual behaviors animals indulge in?
I warn you, however...animals do tend to behave like...well, animals, when it comes to sex...
Seems pretty real to me. He's all loving and accepting and all powerful. His presence is absolutely undetectable. But evidence of his work is everywhere.
I have noticed that the notion that it's "natural" because we see it in the animal kingdom doesn't get tossed around quite as much these days.
I wonder what happened to that old canard?
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is ruled out as a possible cause of the material universe coming into existence simply because he is material in nature (made of spaghetti)...unless you would accept the incoherent concept that a thing could bring itself into existence.
Well...to be fair your argument was that homosexuality is "unnatural". Now that you seem to acknowledge that it's a naturally occurring behavior...would you like to change your position to "it's immoral"?
No.
First of all, I grew up on a farm. Animals pretty much prefer the opposite gender.
What would be incest and/or pedophilia in humans is considered more or less "normal" for animals. Grandparent to grandchild pairings are not unusual at all.
Inter-species sex happens...well, at least, some animals sincerely believe that it will. My dog has not yet given up on my daughter's cat...
I've even seen sad cases where an animal will keep trying to have sex with a dead friend.
Most of the time, when you see "gay sex" in the animal kingdom, it is either a lack of opposite gender mates, or it is a matter of dominance.
Oh, and what would be rape in the human world is quite natural to cats and chickens. Kitty cat love is quite violent, and your cuddly li'l kitty does NOT like you to watch. Chickens on the other hand could care less...if you can stomach it. I've actually seen the rooster kill the hen...accidentally, I hope...during his amorous advances...
You would call these kinds of behavior "immoral" at the very least, if they happened (and they do happen) among human beings. At the worst, you'd call them criminal behavior.
Now why is it that this one perversion is acceptable among humans?
No.
First of all, I grew up on a farm. Animals pretty much prefer the opposite gender.
What would be incest and/or pedophilia in humans is considered more or less "normal" for animals. Grandparent to grandchild pairings are not unusual at all.
Inter-species sex happens...well, at least, some animals sincerely believe that it will. My dog has not yet given up on my daughter's cat...
I've even seen sad cases where an animal will keep trying to have sex with a dead friend.
Most of the time, when you see "gay sex" in the animal kingdom, it is either a lack of opposite gender mates, or it is a matter of dominance.
Oh, and what would be rape in the human world is quite natural to cats and chickens. Kitty cat love is quite violent, and your cuddly li'l kitty does NOT like you to watch. Chickens on the other hand could care less...if you can stomach it. I've actually seen the rooster kill the hen...accidentally, I hope...during his amorous advances...
You would call these kinds of behavior "immoral" at the very least, if they happened (and they do happen) among human beings. At the worst, you'd call them criminal behavior.
Now why is it that this one perversion is acceptable among humans?
Belief in a god appears to be a rationalization for one's fear of death. The ability to put fear of death at bay probably doesn't correlate directly with education or intelligence.Many intellectuals of yesteryear used to predict that as western culture became more educated and more intelligent that religion would die off - especially Christianity. The assumption was that there were religious people because of a lack of education and low intelligence.
But they were wrong. All of these predictions have always been wrong.
There are equally brilliant, educated, and intelligent people who are both atheists and religious. The difference doesn't seem to be one of education or intelligence. So what is the difference?
Why are there religious people? Christianity has an answer, but what's the secular answer?
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is ruled out as a possible cause of the material universe coming into existence simply because he is material in nature (made of spaghetti)...unless you would accept the incoherent concept that a thing could bring itself into existence.
I'm beginning to wonder how this thread suddenly became all about me...and why you seem to be getting so emotional over what is, after all, a hypothetical question.
As it happens, I am not now, nor have I ever been a baker. I did work for a restaurant...well, a diner, really...waaaaaaayyyyy back when I was something like 17...of course, in those days, we didn't have an abundance of openly gay people.
I guess that was before the aliens got to us....
Really? Even though I have gone through most of my life not really thinking about who was doing what to whom with what parts of their anatomy? Even though when the whole gay marriage thing was brought to my attention, my first response was "what difference can it make?
Even though I would have been solidly on your side, if it had not been for one thing....
The movement went over the top when it started indoctrinating kids....
That is where you lost me, sorry....
Trying to teach little children that gay is 'natural' is a form of child molestation...
A child could be indoctrinated with a particular Christian theology or an Atheist theology.
The core of theist theology would be that there is a God or Gods giving rise to various creation stories.
The core of Atheism is the assumption of a Godless universe giving rise to diverse theories of the evolution of life, the material cosmos and such.
An atheist could very well indoctrinate their children in godless ideas, teach them that religion is evil, faith is imaginary etc.
And what is that specifically? I'm not convinced that you know enough about what I believed before and what I believe now. You're so fixated by the label 'atheist' and what you think that entails that you barely know anything else about me or anyone who identifies as an atheist or agnostic on this forum. Of course you may prove me wrong by demonstrating an intimate knowledge of what I once believed and what I now believe. A strawman or caricature (e.g., "godless ideals," "doctrines of doubt," or some other flimflam) will not be sufficient.What you believed before and what you believe now.
You're assuming that most parents force their faith on their kids. That just isn't so.
Anyone with a brain can figure out that same gender sex is not natural.
It is as much a perversion of the natural sex drive as bestiality, or any other perversion.
Do you think that gay sex is natural because "animals do it"? I've heard that one a lot.
Guess what other sexual behaviors animals indulge in?
I warn you, however...animals do tend to behave like...well, animals, when it comes to sex...
He is made of immaterial spaghetti, so problem solved.
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