How could I ever convince you that you were delusional? you think you've hit the jackpot with your religion (and so do they all) so how would I be able to convince you otherwise? it would be an impossible task.
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Why are there religions?
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SithDoughnut
The Agnostic, Ignostic, Apatheistic Atheist
What religion?
Also, I'm still waiting on that evidence. At least religious fundamentalists try.
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Who is they? It is true. Your belief lies in disbelief. To judge religion and say you have no religion is like being a racist. As long as your speaking of religion, yours is athiesm.
The purpose of life for an atheist should be to have the best human life possible, to enjoy each moment of your existance until your inevitable death. If speaking down on the religion of others gives you that much enjoyment then fine, if not than you are speaking to the wind.
The definition of religion is the belief in somthing that may or may not be true, if you do not know for sure than it is a religion athiest or not. I am not religious because I speak from experience.
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SithDoughnut
The Agnostic, Ignostic, Apatheistic Atheist
Atheism is not a religion, just like theism isn't.
Why should that be my purpose? How do you know it should be?
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I enjoy my life just fine thank you, I am not speaking down on the religions of others it just seems to them that I am because I am disagreeing with them, most people agree with you or just don't care what you believe, but they rarely disagree with you.
Atheism is not a religion it's a lable religious people put on people who do not believe as they do, a good example of what an Atheist is, if you do not collect stamps are you called a non stamp collector? no, you just don't collect stamps.
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SithDoughnut
The Agnostic, Ignostic, Apatheistic Atheist
Or I can choose something in the middle. Atheism is not a purpose, it just is.
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SithDoughnut
The Agnostic, Ignostic, Apatheistic Atheist
The difference being that I can empirically show that atheism exists. For example, I am an atheist.
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Yes, just as you can prove ego exists because it does, but it is delusion.
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SithDoughnut
The Agnostic, Ignostic, Apatheistic Atheist
What, atheism? I think of it more as someone not believing in the tooth fairy because no one has ever shown them any evidence for her existence.
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1) Religion is "conduct indicating a belief in a divine power", "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the god(s)")[1] is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affair.
2) Atheism is not a religion. Theism is not a religion. But then, perhaps Buddhism and Confucionism are not relgions either under such definitions. Perhaps the critical defining characteristic is that religion is really an organization of believers, beliefs, codes and customs. In such a sense secular humanism, platonism and stoicism are religions.
3) Now, to the OP's question. I could be flip and say that we are evolutionary wired with a "god" gene, so that we are not complete unless without union with the Universe, the Infinite or God. I bleive that this is the reason for the believe in more than materialism, which is the scientific system that ignores half of reality, spritual events. I also could be callous and indicate that religions have been set up to control the behavior of the masses and to help organize societies.
3) I suspect that the OP (and many others) are coming from a perspective that they, in their personal view, have decided what is real and what is not, and the billions and billion who believe and have believed in spiriutal events are delusional.
2) Atheism is not a religion. Theism is not a religion. But then, perhaps Buddhism and Confucionism are not relgions either under such definitions. Perhaps the critical defining characteristic is that religion is really an organization of believers, beliefs, codes and customs. In such a sense secular humanism, platonism and stoicism are religions.
3) Now, to the OP's question. I could be flip and say that we are evolutionary wired with a "god" gene, so that we are not complete unless without union with the Universe, the Infinite or God. I bleive that this is the reason for the believe in more than materialism, which is the scientific system that ignores half of reality, spritual events. I also could be callous and indicate that religions have been set up to control the behavior of the masses and to help organize societies.
3) I suspect that the OP (and many others) are coming from a perspective that they, in their personal view, have decided what is real and what is not, and the billions and billion who believe and have believed in spiriutal events are delusional.
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You really should pay attention. You quoted an atheist.
If you are going to make bold, absolute claims then you need to back them up. That is what is being asked for.
To something else you said- You are not offending people by disagreeing. It is one thing to disagree. I disagree with many people here. You offend people when you start naming calling. Using words like delusional, foolish, childish, stupid ect is not disagreeing.
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He didn't write like an Atheist'
OK I will, you go first.
I only offend people if they are easily offended, you believe something that does not make sense, if it did you could show me it made sense and I would also be a believer, how offensive is that? so don't be offended just show me how it makes sense then we will all know.
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The billions and billions who believe/believed were made delusional by their beliefs, to make someone believe that someone/something is going to stop death being the end and give them a second life is a delusion, it might be a comfort but it is a delusion none the less.
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Paying attention to *who* you are responding to will make a world of difference.
If I were making absolute claims, or claiming that I had the truth then I would. I am doing neither. I am not trying to convert anyone, nor am I promising any sort of afterlife cookie.
I actually don't find you offensive. I find your willful ignorance irritating at times but not to any kind of extreme. And I don't need you to make sense of what I believe. I don't need to show you, or convince you. I don't claim to have some ultimate truth that everyone should have. What I have works for me. If you want to think me delusional, or stupid that's up to entirely up to you.
Now that we've cleared that up. If you want to make an absolute claim back it up. It's that simple. If you want to educate people you only hurt your points by not backing them up. The "no, YOU!" response makes you look childish, and completely undermines anything you have to say.
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