Why are there no cows in the Devonian?

[CabVet]

I explained why on page 9, because the original Hebrew has been misinterpreted.

So, in Hebrew does bird mean bacteria and fruit tree mean algae?

 

[PsychoSarah]

The Permian where the greatest loss was marine life? Second was insects. Also, they say there was more co2 and less oxygen during that time. Exactly what we would find with a break up and increased volcanic activity during Noah's flood. (Anoxic events).

The arid idea is just a proposed gradualistic process among other ideas about what caused the extinctions.

Why would there be increased volcanic activity during Noah's flood? Also, what most people would not realize is that most marine life would die out from a flood like that too. How was Noah supposed to get two of each sea creature saved as well? Also, 2 individuals do not provide enough genetic diversity to re establish a population.

 

[EternalDragon]

So, what was that about unknown causes again?

There is a known one written in a history book. The world wide flood. But that couldn't possibly be accepted by science, now could it? Even though it fits the evidence.

 

[CabVet]

There is a known one written in a history book. The world wide flood. But that couldn't possibly be accepted by science, now could it? Even though it fits the evidence.

So, you say the causes are unknown, then you give a list of causes. Can we at least try to be consistent? And for the record, there were 5 (not one) major extinction, and many more smaller ones. But why don't you stop trying to derail this thread with this flood business and answer the simple question of why are there no cows in the Devonian?

P.S.: One flood does not fit the evidence. Not even five floods do.

 

[PsychoSarah]

There is a known one written in a history book. The world wide flood. But that couldn't possibly be accepted by science, now could it? Even though it fits the evidence.

No, it really wouldn't. Especially not yo the proportions that are suggested in Noah's flood, considering that there isn't enough water on earth for that to happen.

 

[juvenissun]

Genesis 1:20-21

And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

As you say, EVERY word counts.

That is what I said. "Every" does not mean "All".
Guess you still do not know the difference.

 

[CabVet]

That is what I said. "Every" does not mean "All".
Guess you still do not know the difference.

eve·ry
ˈevrē/
determiner
determiner: every
1.(preceding a singular noun) used to refer to all the individual members of a set without exception.

But by all means, do show us your definition.

 

[EternalDragon]

Why would there be increased volcanic activity during Noah's flood? Also, what most people would not realize is that most marine life would die out from a flood like that too. How was Noah supposed to get two of each sea creature saved as well? Also, 2 individuals do not provide enough genetic diversity to re establish a population.

The fountains of the great deep were broken up. (Genesis 7:11) Increased volcanic activity would have created a subduction event and raised the sea bed, pushing water onto the land.

A lot of sea life did die out.

Without the creature to test, how do you know there was not enough genetic diversity? Many animals Noah took were pairs of seven. (7 males, 7 females). The animal species of today would naturally have less diversity than at that time.

 

[PsychoSarah]

That is what I said. "Every" does not mean "All".
Guess you still do not know the difference.

Every and all are synonymous

 

[juvenissun]

Every and all are synonymous

Not at all.

All includes every.

 

[CabVet]

The fountains of the great deep were broken up. (Genesis 7:11) Increased volcanic activity would have created a subduction event and raised the sea bed, pushing water onto the land.

There is not enough water, and if anything like that would have ever happened, at any time in the past, it would have left (literally) mountains of evidence.

A lot of sea life did die out.

Yes, and yet there are no cows in the Devonian.

Without the creature to test, how do you know there was not enough genetic diversity? Many animals Noah took were pairs of seven. (7 males, 7 females). The animal species of today would naturally have less diversity than at that time.

We have the creatures to test. They are alive today. And we can back calculate from that. For every species. And guess what, not only not species coalesce back to 4,000 years ago, but every species coalesce to a different time in the past.

 

[PsychoSarah]

The fountains of the great deep were broken up. (Genesis 7:11) Increased volcanic activity would have created a subduction event and raised the sea bed, pushing water onto the land.

A lot of sea life did die out.

Without the creature to test, how do you know there was not enough genetic diversity? Many animals Noah took were pairs of seven. (7 males, 7 females). The animal species of today would naturally have less diversity than at that time.

We have tested it currently. You need at least 50 or so individuals to have enough genetic diversity to re establish a species without critically high risk of future infertility or excessive mutation.

 

[juvenissun]

eve·ry
ˈevrē/
determiner
determiner: every
1.(preceding a singular noun) used to refer to all the individual members of a set without exception.

But by all means, do show us your definition.

Every is a subdomain of All.

 

[CabVet]

Every is a subdomain of All.

Every, like the definition that I posted states (and like every other definition out there does), is used to refer to all the individual members of a set without exception.

Other definitions:

Constituting each and all members of a group without exception.
Used with singular nouns to refer to all the members of a group of things or people.
Used to refer to all the people or things in a particular group or all the parts of something.

 

[EternalDragon]

There is not enough water, and if anything like that would have ever happened, at any time in the past, it would have left (literally) mountains of evidence.

Runaway subduction. Raising ocean levels to flood the land. Which also would move the continents at a much higher rate than they are moving today.

After they cooled the ocean would go back down and the continents would slow their movement rates. That is what we see today.

RUNAWAY SUBDUCTION AS THE DRIVING MECHANISM FOR THE GENESIS FLOOD

 

[CabVet]

Runaway subduction. Raising ocean levels to flood the land. Which also would move the continents at a much higher rate than they are moving today.

After they cooled the ocean would go back down and the continents would slow their movement rates. That is what we see today.

RUNAWAY SUBDUCTION AS THE DRIVING MECHANISM FOR THE GENESIS FLOOD

I said this once and will repeat, if anything like that would have ever happened, at any time in the past, it would have left (literally) mountains of evidence. Your link presents none, zero, zilch, nada.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Noah's flood is one of those biblical stories that made atheism appeal to me.

 

[CabVet]

Noah's flood is one of those biblical stories that made atheism appeal to me.

Same, along with God ordering the killing men, women and children of conquered cities, but sparing virgins.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Same, along with God ordering the killing men, women and children of conquered cities, but sparing virgins.

Yeah, how do you tell if a guy is a virgin, btw? It is a lot easier for women to prove it than men.

 

[juvenissun]

veI said this:

Every is a subdomain of All.

And you said this:

Every, like the definition that I posted states (and like every other definition out there does), is used to refer to all the individual members of a set without exception.

Are you a scientist? Do you understand a little bit math language? Or am I talking to a wrong person and have to go to a lower level?