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You are not understanding it correctly. A non-Catholic Christian is not considered to be going to hell.
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well your looking in the wrong place - the Vatican teaches their is no salvation without the rcc and your going to hell...
As per Vatican.va
Although their Muslims brothers can have it....
If you say so, but most people who hold this opinion pick it up from a preacher or church with whom they've been associated, not solely from reading the Bible on their own.Scripture is what tells me this!
So it would appear.It would appear (from your comment) that people get their wrong opinions about rcc because their church plants the idea
You are not understanding it correctly. A non-Catholic Christian is not considered to be going to hell.
In humility and respect sir, better relook at Council of Trent Seeion VI, ie, "anathamas" after "anathamas," Us Lutherans just as bad; however a little more subtle, ie, strictly speaking.
Just ol' old Jack's opinion
Returning to the topic of the thread...
Why ARE so many Catholics anti-Protestant, do you (anyone) think?
Some Catholics on the internet are anti-Protestant. Some Catholics react in certain ways if Protestants attack the Church, but it is not my general impression that a large number of Catholics are anti-Protestant.
Recent Catholic theology--meaning last century--has somewhat taken the bite out of some of the old anathemas. You can produce all manner of past anathemas but, contrary to some popular beliefs, the Church does evolve--glacially, perhaps, but it does.
I will produce one example--"No salvation outside the Church." This used to apply to anyone not in the physical Roman Catholic Church. But this doctrine has been completely re-interpreted to include possible salvation for those who may be spiritually related under the umbrella of the Church, which could theoretically include almost anyone.
Some people bring out the old anathemas. Do things change? Of course they do.
Returning to the topic of the thread...
Why ARE so many Catholics anti-Protestant, do you (anyone) think?
Only giving a living illustration as to "why" RCCs are opposed (anti-RCC) to Protestants, eg, I'm a Protestant, is due to our Scriptural opposition to them. Sorry you didn't understand the simple on going illustration.
Just ol' old Jack
There are two types of christians, the carnal, fleshly, outward, and the spiritual or inward. The flesh and the spirit war against each other. Who is a Jew but one inwardly indicates the outward or flesh does not apply without an inward reality. Same is true with Christians. So the appearance of Christianity does not assure the reality of a spiritual relationship with Christ.The true spiritual Church can include people from many denominations, but denominations exclude by definition. All I can conclude is if you abide in His words and His words abide in you, you will live with Him. If they do not, then you are trying to be spiritual with a carnal mindset and this will bring division. The spiritual is anti-carnal and the carnal is anti-spiritual. oh yes, also the carnal is anti-carnal because it is a house divided. The Spiritual church being in union with Christ is not divided but everyone is in agreement with Him.
ok. The denominations, including the rcc have have developed their own sets of carnal behaviors that contradict spiritual truths. This draws rebukes and accusations that make the targets feel spiritually threatened. Roman catholics have been targets for hundreds of years and have come to feel that protestants are their adversaries. Does this tie it up for you Mark?If you could tie this into the topic of the thread with more than just the title; that would be a good thing.
ok. The denominations, including the rcc have have developed their own sets of carnal behaviors that contradict spiritual truths. This draws rebukes and accusations that make the targets feel spiritually threatened. Roman catholics have been targets for hundreds of years and have come to feel that protestants are their adversaries. Does this tie it up for you Mark?
What does "anti-Protestant" mean? Sometimes the word "anti-gay" suggests that anti-gay people hate people who feel same-sex attractions or that we're judgmental because we think that homosexual acts are always immoral. I don't know any Catholics who hate Protestants, but we do disagree strongly with them on many points.
I've devoted years studying Catholicism, Catholic dogma, Thomistic philosophy, and writings by Church's Early Fathers. Each ancient document I've read supports Catholic doctrine, at least for me, my research hardly means that I'm any better than Our Lord's non-Catholic followers. The holiest man I've ever met was a Lutheran minister.
Thank you, Mark. Pastor Walter Litke and his heroically saintly wife put me to shame, thank God, because my worst fault is pride.Yet you remain Catholic. One of the holiest men I ever met was a Catholic Priest; yet I remain Lutheran. While there are some individuals in our Church who are "anti Catholic", and members in the Catholic Church who are "anti Lutheran" and "anti protestant"; both our Churches (despite our theological disagreements) remain "pro Christian".
Well, let's be frank. There's plenty of room in between abject hate and mere disagreement. There is quite a bit of hostility and bitterness directed at Protestantism on the part of many Catholics, although I readily agree that this isn't so of all Catholics. If we take just these CF forums, for example, there are quite a number of ugly names that are used against Protestantism on a regular basis, so I wouldn't call that simple disagreement.What does "anti-Protestant" mean? Sometimes the word "anti-gay" suggests that anti-gay people hate people who feel same-sex attractions or that we're judgmental because we think that homosexual acts are always immoral. I don't know any Catholics who hate Protestants, but we do disagree strongly with them on many points.
Well, let's be frank. There's plenty of room in between abject hate and mere disagreement. There is quite a bit of hostility and bitterness directed at Protestantism on the part of many Catholics, although I readily agree that this isn't so of all Catholics. If we take just these CF forums, for example, there are quite a number of ugly names that are used against Protestantism on a regular basis, so I wouldn't call that simple disagreement.
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