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Why did the Catholic church hate the Cathars, Gnostics, Bogomils, Waldensians and any other heresy that cropped up. Indeed, in the middle ages Popes even called Crusades against "heretics" that were living quite peacefully in the Languedoc region of southern France. If these crusades and subsequent Inquisitions had not been so zealous, its arguable that a western reformation may well have occurred much earlier in European history.
Any school of thought that reduced the influence of the Pope and the Church was seen as a threat to centralized Christianity and Romes political influence. Luther was not the first person to have broken away from the church, not by a long stretch of the imagination.
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When you've been on CF for a little while, you'll know better.GREAT question, BUT I don't "buy it"!
I'm a life long Catholic
have been very active within the Church and Teaching for more than 20 years. Including 3 years with the RCIA ["Rites of Christian Iniation for Adults] required for entry into the RCC, and for the past four years a large and ever-growing [THANK YOU JESUS] internet Ministry; Teaching, explaining. sharing and when necessary; defending our Catholic Faith.
Never have I personally, nor do I persoanlly know of anyone who IS a Informed and Practicing Roman Catholic that has admosity towards our Brethern of differing faith-beliefs.
When you've been on CF for a little while, you'll know better.
Yes, nevertheless when we all agree with God we will all agree with each other too. The truth doesn't change for us, but is what God says it is.Yes- sad, but very true.
Why did the Catholic church hate the Cathars, Gnostics, Bogomils, Waldensians and any other heresy that cropped up. Indeed, in the middle ages Popes even called Crusades against "heretics" that were living quite peacefully in the Languedoc region of southern France. If these crusades and subsequent Inquisitions had not been so zealous, its arguable that a western reformation may well have occurred much earlier in European history.
Any school of thought that reduced the influence of the Pope and the Church was seen as a threat to centralized Christianity and Romes political influence. Luther was not the first person to have broken away from the church, not by a long stretch of the imagination.
Indeed. I frequently remind people that Luther was neither the first nor the last to have attempted reformation of the Catholic Church. To this day there are people within the Catholic Church who are working at various goals of reformation.
Excuse me, but what do you think the Lutherans are?Except that the groups mentioned weren't reforming groups, they were heretical sects (Cathars, Gnostics, and Bogomils) and schismatics (Waldenses), though the remnant of the Waldenses seem to have eventually joined the Protestants.
It sounds like you've reconsidered somewhat.The only group listed that might be considered a reforming movement are the Waldenses. The Lollards and Hussites were, in fact, reforming movements; in particular the Hussites who legitimately were seeking theological and especially practical reform for the Church, in particular they sought the Sacrament of the Altar be administered in both kinds, particularly the Ultraquists (whose name comes from the Latin for "both kinds") who were the mainstream of the Hussite movement as opposed to the radical, violent, and millenarian Taborites.
Excuse me, but what do you think the Lutherans are?
It sounds like you've reconsidered somewhat.
A reform movement within the Church; catholic identity was never cast away.
I just wanted to add that as someone who has had more than 20 years experience in various protestant Churches (methodist, fundamentalist baptist, Presbyterian, then Lutheran) before becoming Catholic, I have witnessed MUCH more hateful attitudes directed toward Catholics than visa versa in my own subjective experiences
You're pretty much equating a 20 year history in Protestant churches with five years of membership in the RCC. Do you see a bit of a problem with that?Now, I do not feel any hatred toward protestants, and out of all the Catholics that I have met since my conversion roughly 5 years ago, I have yet to meet even one in person that has evidenced any hatred toward protestants! No, I am not exaggerating (I have met a few on internet forums that seem quite hateful, though). I have a feeling that many other converts will agree with me.
A reform movement within the Church; catholic identity was never cast away.
The Waldenses are in a much better position than the Cathars or Bogomils, while some of their doctrines may have been aberrant (such as their Sabbatarianism), they continued to maintain the basic confessions of faith.
I was less focused on the Waldenses in my response than I was the Cathars and Bogomils, medieval Gnostic groups that were clearly heretical.
-CryptoLutheran
A. That's not what the church that's calling all of those churches--including the Lutherans--heretics have to say about it.
B. I'll bet that most of the Waldensians, Hussites, etc. thought that they were reformers and had retained "catholic identity" too.
That was a purely rhetorical question, I take it.You're pretty much equating a 20 year history in Protestant churches with five years of membership in the RCC. Do you see a bit of a problem with that?
Let's see.But surely you can at least acknowledge that a lot of Roman Catholics (who had to be influenced or taught by someone) look down their noses at Protestants.
Protestants who are anti-Catholic are such because their churches have taught them that Catholicism is a twisted variety of Christianity that has substituted a human power structure for God's teachings.
I'd say as far as the Internet goes, it's the other way around. All the Catholic forums I've been to refer to the Catechism saying that they're to accept their protestant brothers as Christians whereas I've seen tons of very mean-spirited protestant commentators (not that all of them are) flat-out say Catholics aren't Christians.
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