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I have noticed that some SDA really do not understand Catholic religious orders in particularly the Jesuits. For example I told one gentlemen that I went to school to study theology and he said something like "So you have been schooled by Jesuits". LOL. No I was not. I am curious why the SDA is so paranoid of these Jesuits and not the Dominicans or Franciscans or Carmelites or even diocesan priest etc?
And if no one else starts one, can I?The Catholics have think skin. They can bear it well. Being persecuted is a sign of something good.
I have noticed that some SDA really do not understand Catholic religious orders in particularly the Jesuits. For example I told one gentlemen that I went to school to study theology and he said something like "So you have been schooled by Jesuits". LOL. No I was not. I am curious why the SDA is so paranoid of these Jesuits and not the Dominicans or Franciscans or Carmelites or even diocesan priest etc?
And if no one else starts one, can I?The Catholics have think skin. They can bear it well. Being persecuted is a sign of something good.
We'll just throw a box of donuts yer way
You'll get your comeuppance!
Always wondered why there were dozens of Police cars at the Catholic churches after Mass
actually, jesuit conspiracies are developed by people trying to make false prophecy appear true. Usually people with really big Bibles that they hold over their head.
I have noticed that some SDA really do not understand Catholic religious orders in particularly the Jesuits. For example I told one gentlemen that I went to school to study theology and he said something like "So you have been schooled by Jesuits". LOL. No I was not. I am curious why the SDA is so paranoid of these Jesuits and not the Dominicans or Franciscans or Carmelites or even diocesan priest etc?
The Jesuit were the military arm of the Catholic church, responsible for much of the *ahem* "conversion" of many nations. It isn't just SDAs that are worried about Jesuits, mind you. Many non Christians know the insidious history of the Jesuits. The current Pope pro tempro is a Jesuit.
Jesuits were not the military arm of the Catholic Church. The closest thing to a military arm is the Swiss guards in the Vatican state.The Jesuit were the military arm of the Catholic church, responsible for much of the *ahem* "conversion" of many nations. It isn't just SDAs that are worried about Jesuits, mind you. Many non Christians know the insidious history of the Jesuits. The current Pope pro tempro is a Jesuit.
Jesuits were not the military arm of the Catholic Church. The closest thing to a military arm is the Swiss guards in the Vatican state.
What oath would that be?That explains why the head of the Jesuit order has the title "General" and why they have to swear an oath as if their conscience was seared and they responded without thinking any more than a corpse would re-think about a command given. (yea - you just know that has to end up in a good place)
What oath would that be?
I ought to point out that the leader of the Society of Jesus is called the Superior General. The word 'general' in that title is not a military designation any more than it is in the title of the book "General Instruction of the Roman Missal"
[FONT="]and declare [/FONT][FONT="]that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver[/FONT][FONT="] (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from [/FONT][FONT="]my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ[/FONT]
Sorry but your wrong. They are boogeymen working with the Masons to rebuild the temple in Prague so the Antichrist can sacrifice a buzzard in the unholy of unholys. This will upset the Illuminati and they'll set off nukes destroying the world and after it's all over, only those who heeded the prophetess will remain and come out of their bunker with rakes and brooms to sweep up the mess just before boarding the rocket ship to Orion with a pocket full of quarters wearing Nike tennis shoes.What oath would that be?
I ought to point out that the leader of the Society of Jesus is called the Superior General. The word 'general' in that title is not a military designation any more than it is in the title of the book "General Instruction of the Roman Missal"
Readers ought to note that: The Sixty-second United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, composed of the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. It met in Washington, DC from March 4, 1911 to March 4, 1913, during the third and fourth years of William H. Taft's presidency.Here is another quote From :
Journals of the 62nd Congress, 3rd Session, of the United States Congressional Record (House Calendar No. 397, Report No. 1523, 15 February, 1913, pp. 3215-3216),
Here is another quote
and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ
Readers ought to note that: The Sixty-second United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, composed of the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. It met in Washington, DC from March 4, 1911 to March 4, 1913, during the third and fourth years of William H. Taft's presidency.
It really has nothing to do with what the Society of Jesus did in that year a little over one hundred years ago.
Sorry but your wrong. They are boogeymen working with the Masons to rebuild the temple in Prague so the Antichrist can sacrifice a buzzard .
The straw-man is often raised on "Jesuit" subject threads such as this - that only Seventh-day Adventists or people who pay attention to Bible prophecy would notice any problem at all - with the jesuit order.
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News flash - the Pope himself extinguished the Jesuit order "forever" by "All the Apostolic power" that there is in the "seat of Peter" --
the fulness of our apostolical power, SUPPRESS AND ABOLISH THE SAID COMPANY:
Papal statement abolishing the Jesuit order 1773. Clement XIV
"in the present case, we are determining upon the fate of a society classed among the mendicant orders, both by its institute and by its privileges; after a mature deliberation, we do, out of our certain knowledge, and the fulness of our apostolical power, SUPPRESS AND ABOLISH THE SAID COMPANY: we deprive it of all activity whatever
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And to this end a member of the regular clergy, recommendable for his prudence and sound morals, shall be chosen to preside over and govern the said houses; so that the name of the Company shall be, and is, for ever extinguished and suppressed."
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So then - was the Pope a Seventh-day Adventst almost 75 years before there ever was one??
Is that how these straw-man claims play out when compared to actual history??
Or is actual history "evil" and should not be noticed??
Well you say that "as if" the Popes were also going around delcaring Dominicans, Franciscans... as all " for ever extinguished and suppressed."" -- as if "That is just what Popes do" in "the fulness of their Apostolic power" and of course "we all knew that - except for Seventh-day Adventists".
Really? that is what you want us to believe?
I don't see any "Jesuit oath" just some rather odd stuff reported in the records of that political meeting. It is about as credible as the house committee on unamerican activities in the 1950s.other than the fact that the Jesuit oath was read into the congressional record at that time ... so 'yeah' --- other than that...
in Christ,
Bob
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