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Why are SDA so paraoid of Jesuits?

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Originally Posted by Rhamiel

there is no secret oath
the Jesuits do have an oath to be faithful to the Pope
and that is all the oath says
and the oaths of chastity, poverty and obedience

nothing secret about it
Shhhhh .... it's a secret
Jesus revealed the "secret" in the book of Revelation:

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G3466 matches the Greek μυστήριον (mystērion), which occurs 27 times in 27 verses in the Greek concordance

Last time used in NT:

YLT) Rev 17:7
and the Messenger said to me "Wherefore didst thou wonder? I -- I will tell thee the secret of the Woman and of the Beast that [is] carrying Her, which hath the seven heads and the ten horns......"

from the CD "Mystery to Me", by fleetwood Mac.
pics and video clips taken here in Oregon

Fleetwood Mac hypnotized - YouTube
 
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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus


Didn't he begin to believe the RCC was "mystery Babylon" in Revelation, as do the SDAs of today?

Alberto Magno Romero Rivera was never priest never a Jesuit; he was a fraud.
Then he and others will be judged rather harshly by the Lord/Master


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Strong's Number G1203 matches the Greek δεσπότης (despotēs), which occurs 10 times in 10 verses in the Greek

1203. despotes des-pot'-ace perhaps from 1210 and posis (a husband); an absolute ruler ("despot"):--Lord, master.



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it is pretty telling of a church group who needs to deceive in order to pass their version of the truth. What does that truly say about them and their truth?
 
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It wouldn't be a secret it we knew about it. But i don't know about such things anyway, just saying.
Well, don't just say that then.
Think about it.
Stop thinking in absolutist terms. Definitions become unrealistc when we do.
If I tell you the secret, of course it is no longer a secret to you, but it is still a secret. How can that be? It is more about intent. If we go absolutist, ther is no such thing as a secret when even one person finds it out.
See what I mean?
 
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Alberto Magno Romero Rivera was never priest never a Jesuit; he was a fraud.
The historicaly & presently documented frauds of the RCC make Rivera look like a rank amateur.

The Wikipedia link I gave does mention Rivera's deceptions.
 
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The historicaly & presently documented frauds of the RCC make Rivera look like a rank amateur.

The Wikipedia link I gave does mention Rivera's deceptions.
How many have been documented?
There is an interesting discussion on this now defunct thread:

http://www.christianforums.com/t6870602-10/#post43686036

 
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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus


Only on the Sabbath .
It's the Lord's day where I am
Where are you at?
It is Saturday 1:15 pm central Texas time where I am, the middle of the Jewish Sabbath day.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7475520/
The Lord's Day





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Where are you at?
It is Saturday 1:15 pm central Texas time where I am, the middle of the Jewish Sabbath day.

Well, you see, that's the problem with 7th day sabbaths; they are so time zone dependent. And if one depends on sunset for starting the day and sunset for ending it then those who happen to be near the poles (north and south) will have a very long sabbath once every seven years or so. All very unsuitable for a Catholic
 
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Didn't only happen in Salem, but the picture I saw looked like Massachusetts so I assumed it was Salem.
 
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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
Where are you at?
It is Saturday 1:15 pm central Texas time where I am, the middle of the Jewish Sabbath day.
Ahhh, I see said the blind man



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That's typical of the jokes Jesuits tell about themselves.
Does one good to laugh at ones self once in awhile....



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Remains a very good question.

I think that it is because the Jesuits have been effective preachers and teachers, helping strengthen the Catholic Church by helping people be good and wise Catholics, setting up a social structure that helps Catholics
 
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I kind of enjoy reading SDA flights of fancy about the naughtiness of Jesuits

It's like Chick comics but in words only - no lurid drawings.


Mind you, there is a strange quality to all those images of heaven and the heavenly two-tablets of stone in SDA iconography.



What's with the encircling clouds?

Oh, and what is THE ANDREWS STUDY BIBLE like? It's SDA notes in a NKJV I saw on amazon but what's it about?
 
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