Why Antiochus was not the little horn

[Douggg]

What do you think it means to have the law written on your heart? I get the sense that you feel it means we will no longer do anything wrong. Is that what you believe?

I don't believe that's what it means. I believe it simply means we know wrong from right.

I asked an orthodox rabbi that question a few years back. His response is when our desires are aligned with God's desires. I thought that was a pretty good answer.

 

[BABerean2]

I asked an orthodox rabbi that question a few years back. His response is when our desires are aligned with God's desires. I thought that was a pretty good answer.

Why would you ask a lost person for advice about God?


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[Douggg]

Why would you ask a lost person for advice about God?


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If you want to know what Jews believe - you ask Jews.

 

[BABerean2]

If you want to know what Jews believe - you ask Jews.

Did they tell you their ultimate source of truth is the Babylonian Talmud, which claims Christ is the illegitimate child of Mary and a Roman soldier named Pantera?


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[Douggg]

Did they tell you their ultimate source of truth is the Babylonian Talmud, which claims Christ is the illegitimate child of Mary and a Roman soldier named Pantera?


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The orthodox rabbi gave a straight answer specific to question I asked him.

 

[Timtofly]

Why would you ask a lost person for advice about God?

The lost have no bias about God, do they?

Did you choose God or did God choose you? What ethnicity on earth did God choose, even if they rejected God? Do you think a Jewish rabi today is any less knowledgeable about the OT, than a Catholic priest? Now compare the extra biblical writings of the Jews and those massive volumes of theology of the RCC. You do realize that the OT was God's Word to the 1st century writers and Jesus? The NT does describe the church, but the OT describes God dealing with humanity way more than the NT does. That a Jew rejects the most important moment in History, does not necessarily mean they cannot know God. It only may mean, God will never know them, because they will reject God and one day explain to God why they did, and God will tell them on that day, depart from Me.

Do you think church theology is that much better than Jewish theology? Did the church pass on the fact that Babylon was a thriving city in the 1st century? How much of history did the church rewrite to prove untrue facts? The Jews outwardly rejected Christ. The church ran with Satan's deception hook, line, and sinker. The church rewrote history and martyred those who knew the truth. I am not defending Jewish theology, just pointing out, human theology is full of holes and error, and trusting one over the other is foolish.

 

[BABerean2]

The lost have no bias about God, do they?

Did you choose God or did God choose you? What ethnicity on earth did God choose, even if they rejected God? Do you think a Jewish rabi today is any less knowledgeable about the OT, than a Catholic priest? Now compare the extra biblical writings of the Jews and those massive volumes of theology of the RCC. You do realize that the OT was God's Word to the 1st century writers and Jesus? The NT does describe the church, but the OT describes God dealing with humanity way more than the NT does. That a Jew rejects the most important moment in History, does not necessarily mean they cannot know God. It only may mean, God will never know them, because they will reject God and one day explain to God why they did, and God will tell them on that day, depart from Me.

Do you think church theology is that much better than Jewish theology? Did the church pass on the fact that Babylon was a thriving city in the 1st century? How much of history did the church rewrite to prove untrue facts? The Jews outwardly rejected Christ. The church ran with Satan's deception hook, line, and sinker. The church rewrote history and martyred those who knew the truth. I am not defending Jewish theology, just pointing out, human theology is full of holes and error, and trusting one over the other is foolish.

The true New Covenant Church of Jesus Christ did not do what you claim above.

There has always been a small remnant of true believers since the Day of Pentecost.

Read the book "Trail of Blood" by J. M. Carroll.

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[Valletta]

The lost have no bias about God, do they?

Did you choose God or did God choose you? What ethnicity on earth did God choose, even if they rejected God? Do you think a Jewish rabi today is any less knowledgeable about the OT, than a Catholic priest? Now compare the extra biblical writings of the Jews and those massive volumes of theology of the RCC. You do realize that the OT was God's Word to the 1st century writers and Jesus? The NT does describe the church, but the OT describes God dealing with humanity way more than the NT does. That a Jew rejects the most important moment in History, does not necessarily mean they cannot know God. It only may mean, God will never know them, because they will reject God and one day explain to God why they did, and God will tell them on that day, depart from Me.

Do you think church theology is that much better than Jewish theology? Did the church pass on the fact that Babylon was a thriving city in the 1st century? How much of history did the church rewrite to prove untrue facts? The Jews outwardly rejected Christ. The church ran with Satan's deception hook, line, and sinker. The church rewrote history and martyred those who knew the truth. I am not defending Jewish theology, just pointing out, human theology is full of holes and error, and trusting one over the other is foolish.

The lost have no bias about God, do they?

Did you choose God or did God choose you? What ethnicity on earth did God choose, even if they rejected God? Do you think a Jewish rabi today is any less knowledgeable about the OT, than a Catholic priest? Now compare the extra biblical writings of the Jews and those massive volumes of theology of the RCC. You do realize that the OT was God's Word to the 1st century writers and Jesus? The NT does describe the church, but the OT describes God dealing with humanity way more than the NT does. That a Jew rejects the most important moment in History, does not necessarily mean they cannot know God. It only may mean, God will never know them, because they will reject God and one day explain to God why they did, and God will tell them on that day, depart from Me.

Do you think church theology is that much better than Jewish theology? Did the church pass on the fact that Babylon was a thriving city in the 1st century? How much of history did the church rewrite to prove untrue facts? The Jews outwardly rejected Christ. The church ran with Satan's deception hook, line, and sinker. The church rewrote history and martyred those who knew the truth. I am not defending Jewish theology, just pointing out, human theology is full of holes and error, and trusting one over the other is foolish.

Catholic theology of the OT is far superior to Jewish theology. It is so because Catholics had and have the advantage of understanding the OT through the teachings of Jesus.

 

[Timtofly]

Catholic theology of the OT is far superior to Jewish theology. It is so because Catholics had and have the advantage of understanding the OT through the teachings of Jesus.

So does the Bible. All can read the teachings of Jesus. That is hardly theology. Theology is the body of human ideolgy. The catholic version is no different than the Jewish one in regards to the OT, as they are just opinions.

 

[Douggg]

Catholic theology of the OT is far superior to Jewish theology. It is so because Catholics had and have the advantage of understanding the OT through the teachings of Jesus.

In spite of all its faults, the RCC maintains Jesus as being God, and the Trinity.

 

[BABerean2]

In spite of all its faults, the RCC maintains Jesus as being God, and the Trinity.

They also claim Mary was sinless.

The pope allows men to bow down to him, even though Peter would not allow Cornelius to bow down to him.

How many believers have they murdered?

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[Douggg]

They also claim Mary was sinless.

The pope allows men to bow down to him, even though Peter would not allow Cornelius to bow down to him.

How many believers have they murdered?

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Those are part of the faults of the RCC.

 

[BABerean2]

Those are part of the faults of the RCC.

Who is their mediator between God and man?

Who is their High Priest?


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[Douggg]

Who is their mediator between God and man?

Who is their High Priest?


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I am not going to join in on your criticism of the RCC as it is off topic to the thread. The topic is why Antiochus was not the little horn

 

[Freedm]

We humans do have a sense of morality and a conscience. We all, or most all; do know what is right and wrong.
But God has not yet Written His Laws onto our hearts. Even born again Christians can stray and fall into sin.

It will happen when all the Christian peoples go to live in all of the holy Land, soon after the Lords Day of fiery wrath has cleared and cleansed the entire Middle East area. Isaiah 35:1-10 is one of the many prophesies that describe this migration. Our new nation will be called Beulah. Isaiah 62:1-5

I find it hard to believe that God wants all believers to live in a certain land, in light of Hebrews 11, and of course common sense.

Hebrews 11:15-16
If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.

 

[Valletta]

They also claim Mary was sinless.

The pope allows men to bow down to him, even though Peter would not allow Cornelius to bow down to him.

How many believers have they murdered?

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The pope is a servant of all:
Be servants to one another, pope tells prisoners before washing feet

 

[Valletta]

I am not going to join in on your criticism of the RCC as it is off topic to the thread. The topic is why Antiochus was not the little horn

Catholics theologians of the first few centuries A.D generally agreed (there were individuals who thought otherwise) that the small horn represented some insignificant king who was able to best three of then ten kings (Ethiopia, North Africa and Egypt).

 

[keras]

I find it hard to believe that God wants all believers to live in a certain land, in light of Hebrews 11, and of course common sense.

Psalms 69:32-36 ...those who serve Me will live there..
Isaiah 35:1-10 ...only the righteous will enter the Land....
Isaiah 65:9 My chosen ones who serve Me, will inherit the Land
Romans 9:24-26....in the same place [as the ancient Israelites] were called not My people, you [Christians[ will be called the children of the Living God.

Common sense and reading the scriptures tell us that God wanted a people in His holy land, who would be His witnesses and His light to the nations. The Israelites failed, but we Christians will be that people.
Isaiah 43:10 - John 15:27 and Isaiah 49:3-8, Matthew 5:14-16

Try to prove your beliefs with scripture, or make a real effort to understand what God has said He wants and will do to get it.