Why and what is MAGA?

[renniks]

The slogan of Trump supporters is:

'Make America Great Again'
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What is this Greatness and why does it need restoring?

OB​

It's buy American, and support our rights and freedoms, right to bear arms, right to no taxes etc.

 

[Eloy Craft]

You live in what is easily the most Christian nation in the Western world, apart from Greece.

Given the predominance of Christianity, why would you feel guilt about holding Christian beliefs?

Given the predominance of Christianity, is it possible that Christianity is part of the problem?

Religious commitment by country and age | Pew Research Center

OB

The predominant mindset isn't Christian. It believes Christianity is a form of enslavement.

This culture is hostile to Christianity. This is a dechristianized culture.

 

[Occams Barber]

The predominant mindset isn't Christian. It believes Christianity is a form of enslavement.

This culture is hostile to Christianity. This is a dechristianized culture.

I think you need to get out more.

OB

 

[Occams Barber]

It's buy American, and support our rights and freedoms, right to bear arms, right to no taxes etc.

'Right to no taxes' sounds interesting. Are you planning to disband all US Defence Forces and shut down the Government?

OB

 

[Halbhh]

OK I'll be serious.

A return to manufacturing on any large scale is highly unlikely due to the obvious cost of labour problem. For American made product to sell it would need either:

• a public prepared to pay higher prices than they pay for a foreign made, but cheaper, product.

or

• government subsidy to offset the higher cost of the home built product. Since a subsidy would come out of taxes the public pays

or

• tariffs on imported product. Again the public pays through higher prices

The second or third option is possible but not on any big scale. Tariff protections also have a poor track record since they are a disincentive to local manufacturing to improve product and reduce prices.

Encouraging innovation requires industry subsidy. Possible, but again the taxpayer pays.

Old fashioned families? (see my comment about Leave It To Beaver). Reverse engineering social structure is near impossible.


Overall - these changes hardly qualify as 'Great'.
OB

Well, this use to be the case, but now with so much automation in production, it is making sense to build a lot of factories here in the U.S.

Trump does have a consistent track record of taking credit for what other people have done, so, maybe he'll try yet another scam on his followers and tell them it was his 4 years that caused those factories to get built that are built in 2022 and and in the future.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Are you suggesting the Democratic Party still supports segregation and gay people staying closeted?

If not, then the party changing its position is not a fairy tale.

There certainly are still remnants of it in both parties. Racism has never been confined to one party and still is not today.

 

[Eloy Craft]

I think you need to get out more.

OB

 

[Pommer]

The United States emerged from World War II mostly intact and had an economic heyday rebuilding Europe and Japan.
Some of the post-war generation took this to be “normal” and the natural order of things.

The “Greatest Generation” (1900-1924) came of age during the Great Depression and after having weathered that fought WWII; after the War they built the National Highway system and right before they retired they took the computing power of a “watch” of today to the moon.

The Baby Boomers cut taxes.

 

[keith99]

Is it defeatist to reject getting stuck in the past? Trying to bring back "the glory days" doesn't work any better for a country than it does for Ted Schmosby who peaked in high school and is still trying to recapture those moments thirty years later.

Rather, we should look forward and create a new golden age that is built within the reality of our own time.

I'd have chosen Al Bundy as the example.

 

[Sparagmos]

Certain behaviors considered immoral in the mind of a Christian, were deemed good in the prevailing mindset of the west. Those who are intolerant of Christian values and Christians themselves were emboldened by what seemed a permanent position on the moral high ground.Then President Trump happened.

Behaviors like adultery, divorce, "locker-room talk," and the worship of money?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

I'd have chosen Al Bundy as the example.

Yeah, that's definitely better. Schmosby was just the first name that popped into my head as I was writing.

 

[Eloy Craft]

Behaviors like adultery, divorce, "locker-room talk," and the worship of money?

Nah, yer s' posed t' do that stuff once yer in the house.

 

[renniks]

'Right to no taxes' sounds interesting. Are you planning to disband all US Defence Forces and shut down the Government?

OB

I'm not planning to do anything but vote for people who want lower taxes.

 

[FireDragon76]

In other words, a rewind back to the 1950's. Those were good days!

As long as you weren't black or gay.

 

[Ken-1122]

In other words, a rewind back to the 1950's. Those were good days!

Everyone has their own idea of when were the good ole days; Personally I feel that the 1990's were it.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Just after WWII I think we at least had a better sense of unity and victory.

 

[Sparagmos]

Nah, yer s' posed t' do that stuff once yer in the house.

Huh?

 

[Eloy Craft]

Feminine power was lost when the burden of responsibility for the outcome of the sexual act was removed. That responsibility preserved the perception of dignity inherent in men and women. Sexual activity that isn't burdened by the responsibility of it's reproductive purpose is valued for pleasure alone. That reduces the woman to an object of pleasure. The true power given to women is found in the purpose of the sex act rather than the pleasure it brings. . That power is exercised when that purpose is valued more than the pleasure.
Contraception, especially the pill, initiated a culture of objectification of the body and loss of the perception of dignity inherent in men and women.

 

[comana]

Feminine power was lost when the burden of responsibility for the outcome of the sexual act was removed. That responsibility preserved the perception of dignity inherent in men and women. Sexual activity that isn't burdened by the responsibility of it's reproductive purpose is valued for pleasure only. The wife is reduced to an object of pleasure. The true power given to women is found in the pleasure her body can give to a man. That power is exercised when that pleasure is denied. Contraception, especially the pill, initiated a culture of objectification of the body and loss of the perception of dignity inherent in men and women.

Well women and men have found the sex act more pleasurable when it doesn’t require the burden of endless pregnancies. BTW, the true power of a woman is found in her mind not her body.

 

[Eloy Craft]

BTW, the true power of a woman is found in her mind not her body.

Agreed. Feminine power is preserved by enforcement of responsibility attached to the sex act rather than the pleasure of it.