Who's Your Historical Hero?

[praying]

Does Robin Hood count?

My hero is still living--Jimmy Carter, because of his tireless work for peace around the world.

The Carter's are truly great and wonderful people!!

 

[Palatka44]

Hmmm, I am unsure. He is your ancestor, should you not know these things?

Well it's not like he was my great grandpa, but sense my family tree has roots to him I've amired his courage at the Battle of Hastings and I'm fairly certain that my above statement regarding his Saxon pedigree is correct. However I could stand corrected for much of what I know about him is speculated within family circles.

 

[SolomonVII]

Well it's not like he was my great grandpa, but sense my family tree has roots to him I've amired his courage at the Battle of Hastings and I'm fairly certain that my above statement regarding his Saxon pedigree is correct. However I could stand corrected for much of what I know about him is speculated within family circles.

http://www3.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal1380

Your discussion made me curious. I followed the male side of this link from William(1028-1087) 1, king of England through his fathers, all dukes of Normandy:
Robert II(c1008-d.1035) the Devil,
Richard II the Good (d.1026)
Richard I, the Fearless (b933-d.996)
William I Longsworld,
Robert (Rollo) I , of Norway (b870-d942)

The link also has the female side of the geneology listed as well, which I did not look into. It may well be that Williams' Saxon pedigree comes through some of the females in his lineage. You may want to take a closer look and check it out further.

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

Please post the final results of your research so I know, Danke!

 

[LiberalChristian]

1) JFK
2) William Jennings Bryan
3) Jimmy Carter

I would listed Jesus, but I think that goes without saying in this forum.

 

[Jane_the_Bane]

Yes and the first of the Saxon Kings, I think.

Gaaaah... heck NO!

The Saxons arrived a millennium before (around 440), and William was a Norman, one of the vikings who had settled down in France under the leadership of a certain Rollo. In fact, William put an END to the Anglo-Saxon era, killing the last Anglo-Saxon king and establishing French as the language of the upper classes, court and government for the next 200+ years. That's why 60% of our vocabulary nowadays can be traced back to French roots.

 

[Jane_the_Bane]

Repeat: William was NOT a saxon. Even if there were some saxon women in his female line, his upbringing, language, culture and just about anything else was 100% Norman French, and that accounts for more than a few traces of genetic heritage. Please, PLEASE take a look at any history book around! Your lack of knowledge almost pains me! It's like you had claimed that Denmark is the capital of Germany or something similar to that.

 

[Tangnefedd]

1) Jesus Christ

2) King David

3) Paul (wrote much of New Testament)

4) JFK

Jesus yes, but as for the other three. David was a murderer, Paul a misogynist and JFK a womaniser and possibly connected to the Mafia!

 

[Jane_the_Bane]

Paul wasn't just a misogynist, he was the one who turned the teachings of Jesus into an abomination.

1) Buddha
2) Sappho
3) Aphra Behn

 

[Tangnefedd]

Paul wasn't just a misogynist, he was the one who turned the teachings of Jesus into an abomination.

Even though I dislike quite a lot of what Paul had to say, I wouldn't go quite that far!

 

[Jane_the_Bane]

Aw, c'mon, he was one of the most self-righteous and arrogant people around, yet especially liked to point out how humble and meek he was. Why, he's the quintessential pharisee! A politician who knew all his ins and outs, and was a real PR-specialist. Just look at the way he handled dissent among various Christian subgroups: Instead of making the mistake of claiming that only the Paulinians were right, he wriggled out by claiming that there couldn't be such a thing as different Christians - thereby suggesting that whoever taught anything different from him couldn't possibly be a real Christian. He was a sly one. Too bad he succeeded so exceedingly well.

 

[mikefromwichita]

Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis

 

[Warrior Monk]

First Jesus Christ. Then in no particular order Moses for slaughtering the Midianites and other enemies of the Jews, Baruch Goldstein for defending himself from the Satanic Saracen horde, Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic for defending Bosnian Serbs from the Muslim terrorist Jihadis, Slobodan Milosevic for defending Serbia from Muslim Albanian terrorists, Godfrey de Bouillon for sacking Jerusalem and setting up a Christian Kingdom in the Muslim Saracen occupied Holy Land, Vladimir Putin for cleaning up Chechnya, and Bernard Goetz for defending himself from criminal savages on the New York City subway.

 

[Key Of David]

1) Jesus Christ

2) King David

3) Paul (wrote much of New Testament)

4) JFK

Jesus yes, but as for the other three. David was a murderer, Paul a misogynist and JFK a womaniser and possibly connected to the Mafia!

David never physically murdered anyone...but he did passive-aggressively allow the possibility for an adversary to get killed...which happened. He paid for it in the flesh (got his judgement) when God took away his firstborn.

NEXT

Paul is hated and called all kinds of things by Christians and non-Christians alike...even though he wrote most of the new testament....which is what they claim to get their beliefs from. This leads me only one conclusion. Paul was teaching the truth. If you misunderstand what Paul says as a whole in his letters without taking into account everything else....then you are showing the fact that you don't love God's Word well enough to want to know it very well.

JFK was a womanizer.....so? So was my father.....as far as his "ties" to the mafia....I know more than you could possibly imagine.....but let's suffice to say that he obviously didn't do everything they wanted him to...or he would still be alive today...

 

[Borealis]

Historical heroes, eh? Let's see...

My religious hero (aside from Jesus Christ) would be St. Augustine. His story is similar to mine (except I don't expect to become a Bishop and be nominated for sainthood), in that he went away from God, then came back to the Church when he realized that they'd been right all along.

My artistic hero is Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. A debtor, a lecher and a drunkard, no question. But the music... I'm certain St. Peter tore up his file when he got to heaven and said 'You're good to go. The choir's waiting.'

My military hero would have to be Arthur Currie, the head of Canada's army in the Great War. His leadership kept Canadian casualties as low as possible under those horrid conditions, and it was his tactical genius that gave Canada its finest military moment at Vimy Ridge and changed the way the allies conducted the war. There is evidence that had the war continued on for another year, he would have been named Supreme Commander of the British Armies.

My political hero would be former Ontario Premier Mike Harris. In spite of the critics lined up fifty deep against him, he set forth a clear platform and, for the most part, stuck to it despite vicious opposition from the left-wing. He wasn't perfect; he made mistakes, and there was a lot of hostility in the province, but he stuck to his guns and won the respect of a lot of people.

And finally, my most personal hero is my father. His life isn't the stuff of Biography on A&E, and he's certainly a flawed man. But he served his country for twenty years, and he taught me right from wrong, how to treat a lady with respect, and how to stay true to yourself. If I can do that much for my own son, I'll have done right by them both.

 

[two feathers]

My Heroes:

Simon Girty, "The White Savage"
Turned his back on America in order to side with the Eastern Tribes in their fight to hold on to their sacred homelands during the latter half of the 18th century.

Ta-Shunka-Witco a.k.a. Crazy Horse
"Crazy Horse spent much of his life alone. When he was troubled he would disappear for weeks with only a horse, a blanket, and his weapons. He would return renewed, with meat for the poor of the village and perhaps an enemy scalp. He owned nearly nothing; he did not dress in the finery of other chiefs. He refused the flattery of the white man. He was religious, charismatic, and unswerving in his belief to roam freely on the great plains." -The Rites of Autumn

Lozen
A Warm Springs Apache warrior and healer. She was known to stand atop mountains with her hands outstretched to feel the presence of approaching enemies.

Goyahkla (Geronimo)
The brilliant war leader and powerful medicine man of the Bedonkohe Apache.
"Nobody ever captured Geronimo. I know, I was with him. Anyway, who can capture the wind." -Nana

 

[Warrior Monk]

Oh and how could I forget. The Founding Fathers and Andrew Jackson.

"The present King of Great Britain...has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers; the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions." -- Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776

Indians have "nothing human except the shape," George Washington wrote: "...the gradual extension of our settlements will as certainly cause the savage, as the wolf, to retire; both being beasts of prey, tho' they differ in shape." (Francis Jennings, Empire of Fortune, 62; Richard Drinnon, Facing West, 65, citing a Washington letter of 1783)

George Washington, wrote that Indians "...were wolves and beasts who deserved nothing from the whites but 'total ruin'" (Stannard, p. 241). Thomas Jefferson, acclaimed proponent of freedom and democracy, argued that the United States government was obliged "...to pursue [Indians] to extermination, or drive them to new seats beyond our reach" (quoted in Takaki, 1979, p. 103). Andrew Jackson, founder of the modern Democratic Party and greatest Indian killer of all American Presidents, urged United States troops "...to root out from their 'dens' and kill Indian women and their 'whelps'" (Stannard, p. 240).

http://www.bluecorncomics.com/savagena.htm

After the Americans invaded Iroquois towns in the Susquehanna Valley in 1778, George Washington, determined to exterminate the Indian threat once and for all, ordered a massive sweep of Iroquois country, specifying that it should "not merely be overrun, but destroyed." Following orders by Washington to "lay waste all the settlements," Gen. John Sullivan's men ravaged 40 villages, burned 500 houses, and destroyed 100,000 bushels of corn. Some units stopped to plunder graves for burial goods; others skinned the bodies of dead Iroquois to make leggings.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/089577819X/peaceparty09

http://www.serve.com/thibodep/cr/indian.htm

 

[KateBeckinsaleAdmirer]

This is too easy. Jesus Christ is my hero.

 

[Agrippa]

My historical hero is Lazare Carnot. He was a mathematician and an officer in the French army prior to the Revolution. During the Rev, he served in every French govt. He stayed alive principally because, unlike so many, he was a true republican. While serving in the Committee of Public Safety he became the 'Organizer of Victory', the man who organized the French armies into the force that allowed Napoleon to conquer Europe. Despite the fact that shifting factions often threatened his life, he never staged a coup; he would rather die than violate the Constitution. Carnot served under Napoleon for a while, urging him to be a Washington not a Caesar, before resigning after he rejected that advice and became emperor. In 1814, however, as France crumbled under the weight of Allied armies, Carnot once more volunteered to serve his country, holding the port of Antwerp till Napoleon fell. He refused to serve the new king and sided with Napoleon during the Hundred Days, once more urging him to create a republic. When Napoleon fell for the second time, Carnot was banished. Despite this, he created a 'republican dynasty' that served France for the 19th century. In fact, his grandson would be president of France in 1889, for the centential celebration of the fall of the Bastille.

 

[Reader Nilus]

Eugene Debs
Norman Thomas both socialist thinkers
Wesley Everest a martyr in the cause of unionism, he was lynched from a bridge in Centralia Washington, a member of the I.W.W.
Jeff the Finn