Whoever BELIEVES in him should not perish

[tonychanyt]

John 3:

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Let's check out the verb tenses, particularly their aspects:

loved
ἠγάπησεν (ēgapēsen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular

Aorist means simple punctiliar aspect.

He gave
ἔδωκεν (edōken)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular

believes
πιστεύων (pisteuōn)
Verb - Present Participle Active - Nominative Masculine Singular

Now, instead of an aorist participle for a simple action, we have a present participle for the progressive (continuous) aspect. The believer is characterized by continual believing action.

shall (may) not perish
ἀπόληται (apolētai)
Verb - Aorist Subjunctive Middle - 3rd Person Singular

The perishing is not in the present tense.

have
ἔχῃ (echē)
Verb - Present Subjunctive Active - 3rd Person Singular

Having eternal life is a progressive action, starting in the present.

My paraphrase:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes and believers in him should not perish at once but have eternal life from now onward.

 

[d taylor]

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What is progressive about it?

 

[SavedByGrace3]

John 3:


Let's check out the verb tenses, particularly their aspects:

loved
ἠγάπησεν (ēgapēsen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular

Aorist means simple punctiliar aspect.

He gave
ἔδωκεν (edōken)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular

believes
πιστεύων (pisteuōn)
Verb - Present Participle Active - Nominative Masculine Singular

Now, instead of an aorist participle for a simple action, we have a present participle for the progressive (continuous) aspect. The believer is characterized by continual believing action.

shall (may) not perish
ἀπόληται (apolētai)
Verb - Aorist Subjunctive Middle - 3rd Person Singular

The perishing is not in the present tense.

have
ἔχῃ (echē)
Verb - Present Subjunctive Active - 3rd Person Singular

Having eternal life is a progressive action, starting in the present.

My paraphrase:

What do you think of the preposition ice instead of en?

 

[tonychanyt]

What is progressive about it?

By *progressive*, it meant a continuing process as opposed to a one-time event.

 

[d taylor]

By *progressive*, it meant a continuing process as opposed to a one-time event.

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The moment a person believes in Jesus they can no longer perish.

 

[tonychanyt]

What do you think of the preposition ice instead of en?

Good point

εἰς suggests movement into or towards a place, while ἐν indicates being in or among a location or space.

The use of εἰς with the verb "believe" (progressive-tense) further strengthens the idea that the believing is action-oriented, and not just a placement like ἐν.

 

[tonychanyt]

The moment a person believes in Jesus they can no longer perish.

Can you justify the above by the grammar from John 3:16?

 

[d taylor]

Can you justify the above by the grammar from John 3:16?

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I do not do grammar, but this person gives a good grammar explanation

Is “Continuous” Believing Required for the New Birth? – Grace Evangelical Society

Is the Word “Should” in John 3:16 Different than “Should” in Ephesians 2:10? – Grace Evangelical Society

 

[tonychanyt]

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I do not do grammar,

This OP is about grammar.

but this person gives a good grammar explanation

Is “Continuous” Believing Required for the New Birth? – Grace Evangelical Society

This OP is not about new birth.

Is the Word “Should” in John 3:16 Different than “Should” in Ephesians 2:10? – Grace Evangelical Society

Thanks for this last reference. To save the effort of everyone, this is how to do referencing in a scholarly manner:

1. Give the name of the source.
2. Provide the link to the source. It is the URL address.
3. Indent the quoted text.
4. Bold the relevant keywords that are important to the point that you are making.
5. Be concise and to the point.

This is what I do for others who read my posts. It is a standard high-school scholarship. If you practice this, I guarantee you: it will improve your analytical thinking. In any case, no one is required to do it here

 

[d taylor]

This OP is about grammar.



This OP is not about new birth.


Thanks for this last reference. To save the effort of everyone, this is how to do referencing in a scholarly manner:

1. Give the name of the source.
2. Provide the link to the source. It is the URL address.
3. Indent the quoted text.
4. Bold the relevant keywords that are important to the point that you are making.
5. Be concise and to the point.

This is what I do for others who read my posts. It is a standard high-school scholarship. If you practice this, I guarantee you: it will improve your analytical thinking. In any case, no one is required to do it here

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I am a dumb ole southern redneck, who never liked school, so i will depart from you topic

 

[tonychanyt]

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I am a dumb ole southern redneck, who never liked school, so i will depart from you topic

Jesus loves you, brother

BTW, to be clear, I did not deny what you said:

The moment a person believes in Jesus they can no longer perish.

In fact, in some sense, it is true.

 

[Brightfame52]

John 3:


Let's check out the verb tenses, particularly their aspects:

loved
ἠγάπησεν (ēgapēsen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular

Aorist means simple punctiliar aspect.

He gave
ἔδωκεν (edōken)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular

believes
πιστεύων (pisteuōn)
Verb - Present Participle Active - Nominative Masculine Singular

Now, instead of an aorist participle for a simple action, we have a present participle for the progressive (continuous) aspect. The believer is characterized by continual believing action.

shall (may) not perish
ἀπόληται (apolētai)
Verb - Aorist Subjunctive Middle - 3rd Person Singular

The perishing is not in the present tense.

have
ἔχῃ (echē)
Verb - Present Subjunctive Active - 3rd Person Singular

Having eternal life is a progressive action, starting in the present.

My paraphrase:

And those believing in Him had been ordained to Eternal Life prior to their believing, thats Election Acts 13:48

And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.