Who Would You Pick to Replace Biden?

[KCfromNC]

It seems that the Democratic Party is increasingly taking actions that bypass the will of their voters under the guise of preserving democracy.

Is there polling data showing that actual Democratic voters feel this way, or is this just another iteration of right wing talking points trying to tell people what those people really think?

 

[rjs330]

Republicans to Biden: You are too old and you should step aside.

Biden to Everybody: I am stepping aside and will not run again.

Republicans to Biden: NO, YOU CAN"T STEP ASIDE!

I honestly haven't been following to closely. Who.said that?

 

[durangodawood]

I honestly haven't been following to closely. Who.said that?

Its a distillation of the discussion and talking point trends.

 

[rjs330]

I sugggest you stop the pretense of not understanding how a party nominates a candidate.
Yes, Biden should have decided earlier.
He didn't.
Move on and stop with this silly argument.

He's absolutely correct as to how things went. It's not a silly argument. However even if he's correct it doesn't mean the Democrats were wrong. After all it's their party and their constituents and if they are fine with it, then who am I to argue about it?

 

[rjs330]

Its a distillation of the discussion and talking point trends.

Oh, well after reading a couple of pages I don't think that's a correct distillation. They are just criticizing the process which people are entitled to do. Quite frankly I'm fine with Harris running.

 

[rjs330]

That may be, but it's shady to be sure. The candidate pool would have been vastly different if Biden were not running.

I agree. The shady part was trying to pass off Biden to the Democrat voters as fully competent. So unless they were seriously paying attention or not in denial they voted for him. The democrats knew and thought they could pull it off. But it didn't work out for them.

You are right the pool would have been very different. I think there could be a good case made that Harris would have gotten the nomination anyway, but there is no way to know that for sure.

And like I said in another post all the democrats signed up knowing how the system works or if they didn't that's their own fault. So I'm okay with how the system chose the candidate cause it's their system. I may not like and you are telling the truth about it, but it is theirs and they own it. For better or for worse.

 

[A2SG]

This assumes that this took everyone by surprise, but it should not have. Biden was showing signs of decline long before the primaries, but his administration hid it. They told everyone he was fine. The media carried their water. His supporters looked the other way.

And yet, somehow, the story still managed to get out. But no one knew the details for sure.

Biden's debate performance didn't surprise me one bit. It wasn't something that should have required adapting to if people had been honest about his decline before the primaries began. Then there would have been open primaries and the Democratic voters could have chosen their candidate through a fair and honest process.

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

Here's the thing: Biden ran for reelection. Whether or not he should have is immaterial. His age was known, but rumors of his cognitive state circulated even before the primaries. No details were confirmed, but still, democrats took all that information in, and voted for him anyway.

Then, things changed. Biden may have felt he could do another four years, and there may have been people around him who also felt he could do it. But some didn't, and eventually, Biden himself came to the decision that he could no longer see himself serving another four years, so he decided against running for reelection.

Was this an ideal situation? No. But it's what happened. So we do what we always do when stuff happens: we adapt and deal with it.

If you, who are not a democrat, don't approve of how democrats run their party, and decide on who their nominee is, that's your business. The Democratic Party doesn't have to care what you think, nor do registered democrats. But feel free to present your opinion anyway.

-- A2SG, but still feel free to present your own nominee....there's a space to write that person in on the ballot....