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Timtofly

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Or you could just ignore what God told us written by Moses in Genesis. Math is adding numbers together, not secret code. God gave you a mind to think about Scripture, not ignore Scripture.
 
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Or you could just ignore what God told us written by Moses in Genesis. Math is adding numbers together, not secret code. God gave you a mind to think about Scripture, not ignore Scripture.
The Bible is not a maths book.

Nowhere does God say "you need to add all these numbers/ages together to understand."
 
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The Bible is not a maths book.

Nowhere does God say "you need to add all these numbers/ages together to understand."
Never said understand.

You don't have to do anything but keep ignoring what God gave you in His Word.

You posted: "Shem lived many years before Abraham". I pointed out that is not what God had Moses write in the book of Genesis.

"Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec."

That is not the human name of this king of Salem, which was the cite of future Jerusalem. That was the order of priesthood. All priest were not called Aaron in the OT, but were of the priest of Aaron.

Unless you claim Jesus was this king of Salem that you said met Abraham, every human has a mother or father. The order of Melchizedek is without mother or father. This king priest duty comes directly from God.

As this was passed down through Adam, and since Abel was killed, it was given to the firstborn son of Seth. And Shem was the firstborn son of Noah.
 
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[Jas 5:17 HNV] 17 Eliyah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain, and it didn't rain on the eretz for three years and six months.

[Heb 7:1, 17 NASB95] 1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham as he was returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, ... 17 For it is attested [of Him,] "YOU ARE A PRIEST FOREVER ACCORDING TO THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK."

Melchizedek Archives - Dr. Michael Heiser

Naked Bible Podcast Episode 167: Melchizedek, Part 1B: Old Testament Continued. by MikeHeiser | Jul 15, 2017 | Biblical Theology & Doctrine, Genesis 12-50, Hebrew Bible (OT), Naked Bible episodes, Podcasts | 0 |. Melchizedek is one of the more enigmatic figures in the Bible. Mentioned in only two
 
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Raised?
They never died.

Hebrews 11
5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

2 Kings 2
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
 
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Elijah was taken up into the sky or 1st heaven, he was not taken from this life. He was transported to another place on earth, like Phillip was.

This person explains this here so i do not have to type a lot Where did Elijah go?

Incorrect, as Elijah has been prophecied to return before the great and terrible day of the Lord.

Malachi 4
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

Elijah was taken to a place where he would not die for hundreds (seen standing next to Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration), and then thousands of years. I don't care what that person says, my bible says Elijah was taken to heaven, and Elijah would return from there long after a mortal body would die.
 
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I don't care for the two witnesses in revelation 11.They are bad people.
 
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Without assuming the two witnesses are good guys,there is nothing good written about them.
They spend 42 months killing and tormenting other people.I can't stand people like this.They are no better than the Muslims they are killing.
Jesus commands all his disciples to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.These two witnesses ignore every command Jesus gives in the bible.I wouldn't be a bit surprised if these two witnesses are the two horns of the false prophet.
 
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Sorry - But I reckon you need to read the book of Revelation again to get the gist of it ??
 
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No need to read what has been memorized.
You can not quote one good deed performed by the two witnesses.

As they come on the scene in the last days, God has put them on the earth for a reason & that reason is to preach the word of God in the hope of getting the masses to repent before the return of Jesus which at this time his return will be very close.

These two witnesses have a very important job to do for the Lord. lets hope they bring the masses to repent in time.

They will only use their powers God has given them to defend themselves.
 
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We read ............Elijah caused the rain to with hold back and fire to come down from heaven & Moses caused the Nile to turn to blood.
When the last days are upon us, this is what the two witnesses will have the power to do.
 
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Now ,do you see what mean by you can not quote one single good deed performed by the two witnesses?

You can add a ton of stuff you think they will do but you can not quote one single good thing they do.lol

And no,they don't torment others to defend themselves.But I suspect the man of sin will be very proud of them up to the moment they die.
 
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We read ............Elijah caused the rain to with hold back and fire to come down from heaven & Moses caused the Nile to turn to blood.
When the last days are upon us, this is what the two witnesses will have the power to do.

Yes,I agree.For those 42 months they will make fire come down out of heaven.

Revelation 13
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,


Just because they have this power doesn't mean they are good or do good.
 
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God is going to do a lot more judgement on the Earth than they will, and they will be doing God's will.
and sometimes God's will involves the destruction of the wicked.

Jesus is going to return to Earth and He will be slaughtering people wholesale.
But He is the objective standard of what is good and evil. You're going to have to accept that.
 
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This is theologically accurate. The phrase "without father or mother" in Hebrews 7:3 regarding Melchizedek is often interpreted to emphasize his unique priesthood, resembling Christ's eternal priesthood. It does not necessarily imply divinity but rather a typological representation. Nice work.
 
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uh
they are the Lord's two witnesses.
Whos servants is Jesus speaking of here?

Mathew 24
But what if the servant is evil and thinks, ‘My master won’t be back for a while,’
and he begins beating the other servants, partying, and getting drunk?
The master will return unannounced and unexpected,
and he will cut the servant to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth
 
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Now ,if you could only quote where the word of God says these two witnesses do Gods will.

Can you quote any good deed performed by these two witnesses of Jesus?
Are they in fact keeping Jesus commandments by killing other people?
Is that what we are commanded to do for Jesus,Torment and kill people?
 
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The two witnesses are not smiting servants, they're smiting people who attack them. They're smiting the wicked.
I mean the clue is after they get killed they are resurrected and raptured.
 
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