Who Wants to Live Forever?

[muichimotsu]

Sounds suspiciously 7th Day Adventist, if I'm not mistaken. The person is given immortality, it isn't innate to them.

 

[Dave Ellis]

Big Bang theory certainly doesn't support everything coming from nothing, since that wouldn't even go along with everything else we know about astrophysics and the like: that is, everything changes form, due to changes in energy and matter, that sort of thing

The collapsing in on itself theory seems to be unpopular among many astronomers, known as the Big Crunch theory. Not sure what the exact alternative is, but I'd guess it's more a notion of universal gravitation: the universe as a whole would eventually reach equilibrium and then everything would gravitate towards a single point and we'd repeat the big bang all over again, hypothetically speaking.

This assumes that there isn't another big bang after the universe is reduced to a singularity. Correct, time in this universe would stop, but that doesn't stop time from beginning in a new setup in the new universe. Days might be shorter, longer, who knows?

Not sure how this is supporting your argument that we should aspire to live forever, especially if we would eventually just become part of the quantum singularity that starts another big bang. Pretty lonely existence there.

Actually, the expansion of the universe is speeding up, which means the current evidence points to a universe that will continue to expand eternally.

 

[muichimotsu]

I recall hearing that, though you have to wonder how that's physically possible, unless we're dealing with antimatter as something that's infinite in mass and the universe would never catch up. I wonder about the whole heat death hypothesis then. Could the universe even reach equilibrium if this is the case: rapid expansion?

 

[Eudaimonist]

There is a scary alternative to those possibilities:

If confirmed, the discovery of the elusive Higgs Boson would help resolve a key puzzle about how the universe came into existence some 13.7 billion years ago - and perhaps its ultimate fate. "It may be that the universe we live in is inherently unstable and at some point billions of years from now it's all going to get wiped out. This calculation tells you that many tens of billions of years from now, there'll be a catastrophe," said Joseph Lykken, a theoretical physicist with the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, who is also on the science team at Europe's Large Hadron Collider, or LHC, the world's largest and highest-energy particle accelerator. "A little bubble of what you might think of as an 'alternative' universe will appear somewhere and then it will expand out and destroy us," Lykken said, adding that the event will unfold at the speed of light.

Higgs Boson Researchers --"An Alternative Universe Will Appear, Expand, and Destroy Ours"


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Sectio Aurea]

The Andromeda galaxy is presently on a collision course with our galaxy. Although it is not likely that our planet will literally collide with any other objects it will almost certainly be the end of Earth. This event is due to take place in about 4 billion years. Andromeda is now close enough to see with the naked eye if you know where to look.

 

[Eudaimonist]

The Andromeda galaxy is presently on a collision course with our galaxy. Although it is not likely that our planet will literally collide with any other objects it will almost certainly be the end of Earth. This event is due to take place in about 4 billion years. Andromeda is now close enough to see with the naked eye if you know where to look.

Oh, Earth will likely have devastating ecological troubles long before that -- even if we abandon the Earth -- and unless we find a technological fix, such as moving the Earth to an orbit more distant from the Sun.

Interactive Movie - Gaia's evil twin: Is life its own worst enemy? - New Scientist

It's not looking good for the Earth only around 500 million years from now.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Sectio Aurea]

Oh, Earth will likely have devastating ecological troubles long before that -- even if we abandon the Earth -- and unless we find a technological fix, such as moving the Earth to an orbit more distant from the Sun.



It's not looking good for the Earth only around 500 million years from now.


eudaimonia,

Mark

I totally agree Mark, in fact I believe the demise of the human species is likely to end well before the end of Earth.
The next ice age will probably wipe out the majority of the Northern hemisphere in the near future (relatively speaking)

 

[Eudaimonist]

The next ice age will probably wipe out the majority of the Northern hemisphere in the near future (relatively speaking)

This is why we need to perfect global warming tech.


eudaimonia,

Mark