Who is the Man Clothed in Linen?

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Ezekiel 9:2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar.

9:4-6 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

9:11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me.

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When first reading 9:2 I thought that one of the six, the "one man among them was clothed with linen" was Christ like, perhaps one of His messengers. Then I realized it is Satan, the same "angel of death" that took the firstborn.

There are three things of interest here.

One, he is dressed as Christ - clothed in linen. This is as it will be in the end of days...just as this "shadow" shows us. He comes pretending to be Christ. He is the anti-christ, the instead of christ. Of course saying it will be that way isn't completely correct as he is already at work and has been since the beginning....pretending to be so Holy when he is an abomination, pretending to teach the Word of God when it is his twisted doctrine.


Does he carry a writer's inkhorn to list all those in his book, those not in the Book of Life? Or to mark those he can't touch?

Psalm 105:15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

Revelation 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.



Two, he begins "at My sanctuary." He begins with those in the house of God, those teaching false doctrine. That is as it should be.


Three, he is doing this under commandment from God - "I have done as Thou hast commanded me."


An interesting point about the "sealing" that is done. The "mark" placed on the forehead of those means "tav." In Hebrew a tav is a "t"......a cross. Interesting isn't it? Those that sealed by God are marked with a cross.



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The Orthodox Christian is not scripturally dependant dear one. We are liturgically dependant. The scriptures support the Church and what she has always taught. What you have in your OP is in direct contradiction to that teaching.

You are teaching that a prefigurement of Christ is actually Satan.

It is anti-Gospel.

Forgive me...

I think the misunderstanding in that the death angel has no where in the bible identified as satan.

 

[1whirlwind]

I think the misunderstanding in that the death angel has no where in the bible identified as satan.

Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

As Satan is our adversary in all spiritual matters....I see him as the death named above. Both Satan and those that follow him.
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[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible
Eze 9:2
Six men - angels of wrath - figurative of destruction. They come from the north, the quarter from which invading armies entered the holy land. These "six" angels, with the "one among them," a superior over the six, make up the number "seven," a number symbolic of God's covenant with His people.
The higher gate - The north gate of the court of the priests. The temple rose by platforms; as there was a north gate to the outer and also to the inner court, the latter was probably distinguished as the "higher gate." It was built by Jotham 2Ki 15:35.
Clothed with linen - The priestly garment Ex 28:6, Ex 28:8; Le 16:4. This "One Man" (Compare Da 10:5; Re 1:13) was the "angel of the covenant," the great high priest, superior to those by whom He was surrounded, receiving direct communication from the Lord, taking the coals of vengeance from between the cherubim Eze 10:2, but coming with mercy to the contrite as well as with vengeance to the impenitent; these are attributes of Jesus Christ Joh 5:30; Lu 2:34; Mt 9:13; Joh 6:39.
A writer's inkhorn - Usually a flat case about nine inches long, by an inch and a quarter broad, and half an inch thick, the hollow of which serves to contain the reed pens and penknife. At one end is the ink-vessel which is twice as heavy as the shaft. The latter is passed through the girdle and prevented from slipping through by the projecting ink-vessel. The whole is usually of polished metal, brass, copper or silver. The man with the inkhorn has to write in the Book of Life the names of those who shall be marked. The metaphor is from the custom of registering the names of the Israelites in public rolls. Compare Ex 32:33; Ps 69:28; Isa 4:3; Php 4:3; Re 3:5.


The previous chapter (8) was of the abominations in the temple, so probably would be the judgement that begins at the house of God.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

As Satan is our adversary in all spiritual matters....I see him as the death named above. Both Satan and those that follow him.
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There is a difference also between the pale horse (death) and the white horse(Jesus). I'm not convinced that the one on the pale horse is satan.

Psalm 7:

11 God is a just judge,
And God is angry with the wicked every day.
12 If he does not turn back,
He will sharpen His sword;
He bends His bow and makes it ready.
13 He also prepares for Himself instruments of death;
He makes His arrows into fiery shafts.

 

[1whirlwind]

Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible
Eze 9:2
Six men - angels of wrath - figurative of destruction. They come from the north, the quarter from which invading armies entered the holy land. These "six" angels, with the "one among them," a superior over the six, make up the number "seven," a number symbolic of God's covenant with His people.

The higher gate - The north gate of the court of the priests. The temple rose by platforms; as there was a north gate to the outer and also to the inner court, the latter was probably distinguished as the "higher gate." It was built by Jotham 2Ki 15:35.

Clothed with linen - The priestly garment Ex 28:6, Ex 28:8; Le 16:4. This "One Man" (Compare Da 10:5; Re 1:13) was the "angel of the covenant," the great high priest, superior to those by whom He was surrounded, receiving direct communication from the Lord, taking the coals of vengeance from between the cherubim Eze 10:2, but coming with mercy to the contrite as well as with vengeance to the impenitent; these are attributes of Jesus Christ Joh 5:30; Lu 2:34; Mt 9:13; Joh 6:39.
A writer's inkhorn - Usually a flat case about nine inches long, by an inch and a quarter broad, and half an inch thick, the hollow of which serves to contain the reed pens and penknife. At one end is the ink-vessel which is twice as heavy as the shaft. The latter is passed through the girdle and prevented from slipping through by the projecting ink-vessel. The whole is usually of polished metal, brass, copper or silver. The man with the inkhorn has to write in the Book of Life the names of those who shall be marked. The metaphor is from the custom of registering the names of the Israelites in public rolls. Compare Ex 32:33; Ps 69:28; Isa 4:3; Php 4:3; Re 3:5.


The previous chapter (8) was of the abominations in the temple, so probably would be the judgement that begins at the house of God.

I must disagree with your quote from Albert Barnes.

1. It isn't six men plus one...it is six men. It is "one man among them." Six total and not seven. Seven is the number of Christ...six isn't.

2. They do come from the north, to be specific from the north gate (the court of the priests). Why? They slaughter with deception, false doctrine, traditions of men...pretending to be Christian teachers, preachers, prophets and they are not. They are the many antichrists [1 John 2:18] parading in long robes [Luke 20:46].

Consider those "coming from the north" and why we should "take heed."

• Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
  
  Isaiah 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.
  
  Jeremiah 1:14 Then the LORD said unto me, Out of the north an evil shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land.
  
  Jeremiah 4:6 Set up the standard toward Zion: retire, stay not: for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction.
  
  Jeremiah 10:22 Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.
  
  Jeremiah 46:20 Egypt is like a very fair heifer, but destruction cometh; it cometh out of the north.

3. The linen garment this man wears is part of the deception. Part of his pretending to be Christ. It is probably the same event as written in....

• Revelation 6:2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

He wears linen, is given a crown and rides a white horse...as the true Savior, but he is the fake.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

I must disagree with your quote from Albert Barnes.

1. It isn't six men plus one...it is six men. It is "one man among them." Six total and not seven. Seven is the number of Christ...six isn't.

2. They do come from the north, to be specific from the north gate (the court of the priests). Why? They slaughter with deception, false doctrine, traditions of men...pretending to be Christian teachers, preachers, prophets and they are not. They are the many antichrists [1 John 2:18] parading in long robes [Luke 20:46].

Consider those "coming from the north" and why we should "take heed."

• Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
  
  Isaiah 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.
  
  Jeremiah 1:14 Then the LORD said unto me, Out of the north an evil shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land.
  
  Jeremiah 4:6 Set up the standard toward Zion: retire, stay not: for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction.
  
  Jeremiah 10:22 Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.
  
  Jeremiah 46:20 Egypt is like a very fair heifer, but destruction cometh; it cometh out of the north.

3. The linen garment this man wears is part of the deception. Part of his pretending to be Christ. It is probably the same event as written in....

• Revelation 6:2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

He wears linen, is given a crown and rides a white horse...as the true Savior, but he is the fake.

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The north in prophesy endtimes has always refered to Gog and Magog.

As far as raiment of white there are many NT references, but just as garments. Linen isn't specified.
We're councelled by Jesus to buy from Him white raiment

I advise you to buy from me gold made pure in fire so you can be truly rich. Buy from me white clothes so you can be clothed and so you can cover your shameful nakedness. Buy from me medicine to put on your eyes so you can truly see.

Jesus' raiment was white as light at the tranfiguration
Daniel's vision was of one who's garment was white as snow
Rev 3:4 we're to walk in white raiments
4:4 the 24 elders are in white raiment
etc.

The only reference to linen is in Rev 15

The Last Troubles
1 Then I saw another wonder in heaven that was great and amazing. There were seven angels bringing seven disasters. These are the last disasters, because after them, God's anger is finished.
2 I saw what looked like a sea of glass mixed with fire. All of those who had won the victory over the beast and his idol and over the number of his name were standing by the sea of glass. They had harps that God had given them. 3 They sang the song of Moses, the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb:
"You do great and wonderful things, — Psalm 111:2
Lord God Almighty. — Amos 3:13
Everything the Lord does is right and true, — Psalm 145:17
King of the nations.[a]
4 Everyone will respect you, Lord, — Jeremiah 10:7
and will honor you.
Only you are holy.
All the nations will come
and worship you, — Psalm 86:9–10
because the right things you have done
are now made known." — Deuteronomy 32:4
5 After this I saw that the temple (the Tent of the Agreement) in heaven was opened.6 And the seven angels bringing the seven disasters came out of the temple. They were dressed in clean, shining linen and wore golden bands tied around their chests.7 Then one of the four living creatures gave to the seven angels seven golden bowls filled with the anger of God, who lives forever and ever.8 The temple was filled with smoke from the glory and the power of God, and no one could enter the temple until the seven disasters of the seven angels were finished.

The gold bands represent priesthood. Jesus wears one also in the first chap Rev.

The white horse I'm completely convinced is Jesus, not a fake.

The Rider on the White Horse
11 Then I saw heaven opened, and there before me was a white horse. The rider on the horse is called Faithful and True, and he is right when he judges and makes war.

The placing of signs on the people of God shown in Ezekial 7 is seen repeated in Revelations with the numbering of the 144,000
(Dan has been excluded, they usurped God's rule in Judges by instituting a false priesthood) and the 2 tribes of Joseph (mature rule as double portion) have been included.

Revelation 9:4
4 They were told not to harm the grass on the earth or any plant or tree. They could harm only the people who did not have the sign of God on their foreheads.

Revelation 14
The Song of the Saved
1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb standing on Mount Zion. With him were one hundred forty-four thousand people who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

The higher gate - The north gate of the court of the priests. The temple rose by platforms; as there was a north gate to the outer and also to the inner court, the latter was probably distinguished as the "higher gate."

The gates to be built in the new temple

Ezek 48:

The Gates of the City

30 "These will be the outside borders of the city: The north side will measure more than one mile.31 There will be three gates facing north: Reuben's Gate, Judah's Gate, and Levi's Gate, named for the tribes of Israel.

32 "The east side will measure more than one mile. There will be three gates facing east: Joseph's Gate, Benjamin's Gate, and Dan's Gate.
33 "The south side will measure more than one mile. There will be three gates facing south: Simeon's Gate, Issachar's Gate, and Zebulun's Gate.
34 "The west side will measure more than one mile. There will be three gates facing west: Gad's Gate, Asher's Gate, and Naphtali's Gate. 35 "The city will measure about six miles around. From then on the name of the city will be The Lord Is There."

 

[1whirlwind]

Evangelica....thank you for your manner of discussion. This has been a pleasure. It is a joy to discuss His Word with other children of God...even if not in agreement.

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The north in prophesy endtimes has always refered to Gog and Magog.

God's throne is on the north side...the position Satan wants.

Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north.

As far as raiment of white there are many NT references, but just as garments. Linen isn't specified.
We're councelled by Jesus to buy from Him white raiment

Jesus' raiment was white as light at the tranfiguration
Daniel's vision was of one who's garment was white as snow
Rev 3:4 we're to walk in white raiments
4:4 the 24 elders are in white raiment
etc.

The only reference to linen is in Rev 15

The gold bands represent priesthood. Jesus wears one also in the first chap Rev.

Satan is the deceiver. In order to do this he pretends to be Christ and his workers...Christian. For this reason the six men begin in the sanctuary.

Jeremiah 14:14-15 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

The white horse I'm completely convinced is Jesus, not a fake.

If that white horse rider is Christ....who is this?


Revelation 19:11-13 And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse; and He That sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a name written, that no man knew, but He Himself. And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and His name is called The Word of God.

The placing of signs on the people of God shown in Ezekial 7 is seen repeated in Revelations with the numbering of the 144,000
(Dan has been excluded, they usurped God's rule in Judges by instituting a false priesthood) and the 2 tribes of Joseph (mature rule as double portion) have been included.

The difference there is in Ezekiel the man in linen is marking the witnesses. They are those in sackcloth/mourning clothes [Rev.11:3], those "that sigh and that cry for all the abomininations." [Ez.9:4] He is marking those he can't touch while his men spiritually slaughter, deceive the others.

In Revelation those that must be sealed before the end, the 144,000, are those that are misled. The witnesses, those that "sigh and cry" have His truth...the 144,000 must have the truth sealed into them before the end. The testimony of the Holy Spirit through the witnesses accomplishes that sealing.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Evangelica....thank you for your manner of discussion. This has been a pleasure. It is a joy to discuss His Word with other children of God...even if not in agreement.

My pleasure, I'm generally ignored totally.

God's throne is on the north side...the position Satan wants.

Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north.

I've often thought that the North star is where heaven is located. It's a guide for the night and never moves.

Satan is the deceiver. In order to do this he pretends to be Christ and his workers...Christian. For this reason the six men begin in the sanctuary.

Jeremiah 14:14-15 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

I'll have to study that further to see if I can find anything. It sounds foriegn to me.

If that white horse rider is Christ....who is this?

Revelation 19:11-13 And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse; and He That sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a name written, that no man knew, but He Himself. And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and His name is called The Word of God.

I answered that in my previous post.

The white horse I'm completely convinced is Jesus, not a fake.

The Rider on the White Horse
11 Then I saw heaven opened, and there before me was a white horse. The rider on the horse is called Faithful and True, and he is right when he judges and makes war.
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The difference there is in Ezekiel the man in linen is marking the witnesses. They are those in sackcloth/mourning clothes [Rev.11:3], those "that sigh and that cry for all the abomininations." [Ez.9:4] He is marking those he can't touch while his men spiritually slaughter, deceive the others.

In Revelation those that must be sealed before the end, the 144,000, are those that are misled. The witnesses, those that "sigh and cry" have His truth...the 144,000 must have the truth sealed into them before the end. The testimony of the Holy Spirit through the witnesses accomplishes that sealing.

According to the example in Ezekial I see them only marking off those who weep over the condition of God's cause on earth. But as I said I will look further into it.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Satan is the deceiver. In order to do this he pretends to be Christ and his workers...Christian. For this reason the six men begin in the sanctuary.

Jeremiah 14:14-15 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

Jeremiah was written to those going into the captivity, and as a result is fulfilled prophesy, whereas Ezekiak, in the first half or so recounts the history of Isreal, then proceeds to unfilfilled prophesy.
That said.... the verses your refering to denounces the false prophets that were basically saying "peace, peace" while God was planning otherwise, so they were not speaking into what God was doing.

The difference there is in Ezekiel the man in linen is marking the witnesses. They are those in sackcloth/mourning clothes [Rev.11:3], those "that sigh and that cry for all the abomininations." [Ez.9:4] He is marking those he can't touch while his men spiritually slaughter, deceive the others.

No, the witnesses are prophesied here. There are only 2 witnesses in Rev 11, signified by the olive trees. ( I did a study on that and can't recall all the details but it's worth a search)
Zechariah 4
The Gold Lampstand and the Two Olive Trees
1 Then the angel who talked with me returned and wakened me, as a man is wakened from his sleep. 2 He asked me, "What do you see?"
I answered, "I see a solid gold lampstand with a bowl at the top and seven lights on it, with seven channels to the lights. 3 Also there are two olive trees by it, one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left."
4 I asked the angel who talked with me, "What are these, my lord?"
5 He answered, "Do you not know what these are?"
"No, my lord," I replied.
6 So he said to me, "This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the LORD Almighty.

In Revelation those that must be sealed before the end, the 144,000, are those that are misled. The witnesses, those that "sigh and cry" have His truth...the 144,000 must have the truth sealed into them before the end. The testimony of the Holy Spirit through the witnesses accomplishes that sealing.

The preaching of the 144,000. Which by all appearances seems to be Jews after the overcomers are out of the picture.

I'm still not following your line of reasoning as to why you think the guy in linen is satan? It appears to me to be fully the working of God and I don't see satan as being employed by Him.

 

[1whirlwind]

My pleasure, I'm generally ignored totally.

I understand. It's either being ignored or having to wince at the venom spilled by some.

I answered that in my previous post.

The white horse I'm completely convinced is Jesus, not a fake.

The Rider on the White Horse
11 Then I saw heaven opened, and there before me was a white horse. The rider on the horse is called Faithful and True, and he is right when he judges and makes war.
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The white horse Rider in Rev. 19:11 is the Savior but the fake arrives before He does. Compare both the similarities and differences in the riders of Rev. 6 and 19. The similarities because he pretends to be Christ, but he is the anti christ, the instead of christ.

The fake wears "a crown given him" while the True Christ has "on His head were many crowns." The fake goes "forth conquering and to conquer" but the True Christ "in righteousness He doth judge and make war." The fake "had a bow" but that bow isn't a weapon as in a bow and arrow. He conquers with deception and the bow, as the crown, as the white horse, as wearing linen...are all part of the deception.

The throne of Christ is surrounded by a bow....a rainbow.

Revelation 4:3 And He that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

The "bow" the fake has, when taken to the Greek meaning is....a simple fabric bow. His bow, his arc, is an imitation of the rainbow that surrounds the throne of Christ.

 

[1whirlwind]

Jeremiah was written to those going into the captivity, and as a result is fulfilled prophesy, whereas Ezekiak, in the first half or so recounts the history of Isreal, then proceeds to unfilfilled prophesy. [/font]
That said.... the verses your refering to denounces the false prophets that were basically saying "peace, peace" while God was planning otherwise, so they were not speaking into what God was doing.

1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
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Jeremiah and Ezekiel foretold what would happen to the twelve tribes, then as now split into two factions....the house of Judah and the house of Israel....and that they would be taken captive. They were. It was also a shadow of what would again happen. As the house of Israel was taken captive by the king of Assyria, a type for the anti christ....so shall today's house of Israel (Christians) be taken captive by his deception. By the false prophets of today, some of which say...peace, peace.

No, the witnesses are prophesied here. There are only 2 witnesses in Rev 11, signified by the olive trees. ( I did a study on that and can't recall all the details but it's worth a search)

Zechariah 4
The Gold Lampstand and the Two Olive Trees
1 Then the angel who talked with me returned and wakened me, as a man is wakened from his sleep. 2 He asked me, "What do you see?"
I answered, "I see a solid gold lampstand with a bowl at the top and seven lights on it, with seven channels to the lights. 3 Also there are two olive trees by it, one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left."
4 I asked the angel who talked with me, "What are these, my lord?"
5 He answered, "Do you not know what these are?"
"No, my lord," I replied.
6 So he said to me, "This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the LORD Almighty.

But, what are the two olive trees?

Revelation 11:3-5 And I will give power unto My two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, AND the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
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Of the seven candlesticks, seven churches...only two stood beside Him as witnesses. Those represented by Philadelphia and Smyrna. But, of the two churches...there are many of us in the congregation. The two witnesses are two groups of witnesses......

Acts 5:32 And we are His witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

1 Thessalonians 2:10 Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe:

Hebrews 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
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The preaching of the 144,000. Which by all appearances seems to be Jews after the overcomers are out of the picture.

The 144,000 of the tribes of Israel don't preach. It is the witnesses that have the testimony and that testimony seals the 144,000 and then....the end.

As a side note...consider that of the twelve tribes of Israel only two of the tribes are Jews. They are Judah and Benjamin or...the house of Judah. The other ten tribes never returned after being taken captive. They are the "lost sheep of the house of Israel" that our Savior was sent to. He found us and today we carry His name....Christ/Christian.

I'm still not following your line of reasoning as to why you think the guy in linen is satan? It appears to me to be fully the working of God and I don't see satan as being employed by Him.

What this man in linen is accomplishing is purging God's children. This is the time of the great tribulation when we are proven....

Deuteronomy 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Zechariah 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

Isaiah 1:25 And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:

Ezekiel 22:18 Son of man, the house of Israel is to me become dross: all they are brass, and tin, and iron, and lead, in the midst of the furnace; they are even the dross of silver.
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We will be tested, proven, tried to see if we love the Lord with all our heart and soul.

 

[Standing Up]

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The "bow" the fake has, when taken to the Greek meaning is....a simple fabric bow. His bow, his arc, is an imitation of the rainbow that surrounds the throne of Christ.

That rainbow around the throne speaks to the covenant w/ man (all flesh) through Noah (Gen. 9:11-17, Ez. 1:28, Rev. 4:3). Perhaps the bow of the first rider speaks to some 'false' covenant.

 

[Standing Up]

" 3. The linen garment this man wears is part of the deception. Part of his pretending to be Christ. It is probably the same event as written in....

• Revelation 6:2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

He wears linen, is given a crown and rides a white horse...as the true Savior, but he is the fake.***********

-snip-

As far as raiment of white there are many NT references, but just as garments. Linen isn't specified.
We're councelled by Jesus to buy from Him white raiment

I advise you to buy from me gold made pure in fire so you can be truly rich. Buy from me white clothes so you can be clothed and so you can cover your shameful nakedness. Buy from me medicine to put on your eyes so you can truly see.
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Jesus' raiment was white as light at the tranfiguration
Daniel's vision was of one who's garment was white as snow
Rev 3:4 we're to walk in white raiments
4:4 the 24 elders are in white raiment
etc. "


Sorry the quotes didn't carry over exactly, but I wanted to make a couple of comments.

You're right that linen is not specified, but only white. The reason why is that linen comes from a plant, rather than an animal (wool). So, one is not supposed to mix the two. The high priest wore linen on the day of atonement. Likewise, the rider's 'cloth' may be white, but not linen white.

As far as Jesus' raiment was white at the Transfiguration and in Daniel and in Revelation 1:14, see also Mt. 28:2-4 (the "he" referred to is not the angel of the LORD, but rather Christ Jesus at His resurrection coming out of the tomb appearing in Glory).

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

" 3. The linen garment this man wears is part of the deception. Part of his pretending to be Christ. It is probably the same event as written in....

• Revelation 6:2 And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

He wears linen, is given a crown and rides a white horse...as the true Savior, but he is the fake.***********

-snip-

That doesn't say linen at all. There is a white horse and a pale horse. The pale horse is death...I was under the impression that was the topic.

As far as raiment of white there are many NT references, but just as garments. Linen isn't specified.
We're councelled by Jesus to buy from Him white raiment

I advise you to buy from me gold made pure in fire so you can be truly rich. Buy from me white clothes so you can be clothed and so you can cover your shameful nakedness. Buy from me medicine to put on your eyes so you can truly see.
​

Jesus' raiment was white as light at the tranfiguration
Daniel's vision was of one who's garment was white as snow
Rev 3:4 we're to walk in white raiments
4:4 the 24 elders are in white raiment
etc. "


Sorry the quotes didn't carry over exactly, but I wanted to make a couple of comments.

You're right that linen is not specified, but only white. The reason why is that linen comes from a plant, rather than an animal (wool). So, one is not supposed to mix the two. The high priest wore linen on the day of atonement. Likewise, the rider's 'cloth' may be white, but not linen white.

As far as Jesus' raiment was white at the Transfiguration and in Daniel and in Revelation 1:14, see also Mt. 28:2-4 (the "he" referred to is not the angel of the LORD, but rather Christ Jesus at His resurrection coming out of the tomb appearing in Glory).

Sorry, I'm not interested in human reasoning, I have quoted scripture and your refuting with human wisdom. Not on the same discussion level. Post new scripture with an explaination, but mixed tells me nothing toward the discussion. The linen was left behind at the resurrection btw.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
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Jeremiah and Ezekiel foretold what would happen to the twelve tribes, then as now split into two factions....the house of Judah and the house of Israel....and that they would be taken captive. They were. It was also a shadow of what would again happen. As the house of Israel was taken captive by the king of Assyria, a type for the anti christ....so shall today's house of Israel (Christians) be taken captive by his deception. By the false prophets of today, some of which say...peace, peace.

The NT scripture has it's own prophesies of the sheep from the goats etc.
Matt 25 has analogies for a 3-way split of bride, kings and nations

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Who is the Man Clothed in Linen?

LLOJ subscribes....Daniel 12 also mentions a Man in linens......

Daniel 12:7 And I am hearing the man clothed of the linens who from above to waters of the waterway and he is high right of him and left of him to the heavens. And he is swearing in life of the age that for appointed-time, appointed-times and half and as to be concluded of to shatter of hand of people of holiness they are concluded all these [Revelation 10:5,6]

Revelation 10:5 And the Messenger whom I saw standing upon the sea, and upon the land, lifts the hand of Him, the right, into the heaven
6 and swears in the One-living who lives into the ages of the ages, who creates the heaven and the in him, and the land and the in her, and the sea and the in her--that time not still shall be, [Daniel 12:7]

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Anyway, the topic of the OP is the man in linen. Other than levitical priests there is no mention of any man in linen, and at that is only mentioned in context of Aaron in Exodus as far as mankind goes.

Revelations 15 seems to be the only explaination for the man in linen of Ezekial 7 and refers to the angels of judgment with the 7 bowls of wrath that I posted previously.

Daniel 12:7


7And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

 

[1whirlwind]

Who is the Man Clothed in Linen?

LLOJ subscribes....Daniel 12 also mentions a Man in linens......

Daniel 12:7 And I am hearing the man clothed of the linens who from above to waters of the waterway and he is high right of him and left of him to the heavens. And he is swearing in life of the age that for appointed-time, appointed-times and half and as to be concluded of to shatter of hand of people of holiness they are concluded all these [Revelation 10:5,6]

Revelation 10:5 And the Messenger whom I saw standing upon the sea, and upon the land, lifts the hand of Him, the right, into the heaven
6 and swears in the One-living who lives into the ages of the ages, who creates the heaven and the in him, and the land and thein her, and the sea and the in her--that time not still shall be, [Daniel 12:7]

Thank you for the [Hebrews 2:14] quote. It is a 2nd witness to [Rev.6:8] in that Death is Satan...or so I believe.

 

[1whirlwind]

Anyway, the topic of the OP is the man in linen. Other than levitical priests there is no mention of any man in linen, and at that is only mentioned in context of Aaron in Exodus as far as mankind goes.

Revelations 15 seems to be the only explaination for the man in linen of Ezekial 7 and refers to the angels of judgment with the 7 bowls of wrath that I posted previously.

Daniel 12:7


7And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Remember though....Satan is the great deceiver.


11 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.