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I've actually used multiple sources over the years. What matters is not their commentary, but the actual verses from the Quran they reference. I understand that in the early years Mohammed wrote about peaceful co-existence. In later life, however, the writings changed and Islam became much more militaristic. It is these verses that the terrorists quote when they do evil. Of course, the obvious question is, if the Quran has two different messages,how could it be from the same God?

If I had no love for Muslims i would leave them to perish in their ignorance without ever speaking the truth of Jesus Christ. As He commands us to spread His word of love and forgiveness, so also must we extend that word to those following false religions which will lead to their ultimate destruction. True love speaks the truth even when it isn't popular.
there is no two different message it is one ....prophet Mohammad's early message is similar to same message delivered after a wile ...the message of islam is the same for ever..it is a message from god so it cannot change its content in the early islam or later..prophet Mohammad was peaceful at the beginning and he kept being peaceful after that and I've sent you webs that shows the kindness of the prophet after spreading the message of islam after becoming powerful he kept being kind to Christians and jews you can check the websites I've sent...
the Quran teaches us all good morals...
see yourself:
Worship Allah and join none with Him in worship, and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, Al-Masakin (the poor), the neighbour who is near of kin, the neighbour who is a stranger, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (you meet), and those (slaves) whom your right hands possess. Verily, Allah does not like such as are proud and boastful
Verily, Allah enjoins Al-Adl (i.e. justice and worshipping none but Allah Alone - Islamic Monotheism) and Al-Ihsan [i.e. to be patient in performing your duties to Allah, totally for Allah's sake and in accordance with the Sunnah (legal ways) of the Prophet
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in a perfect manner], and giving (help) to kith and kin (i.e. all that Allah has ordered you to give them e.g., wealth, visiting, looking after them, or any other kind of help, etc.): and forbids Al-Fahsha' (i.e all evil deeds, e.g. illegal sexual acts, disobedience of parents, polytheism, to tell lies, to give false witness, to kill a life without right, etc.), and Al-Munkar (i.e all that is prohibited by Islamic law: polytheism of every kind, disbelief and every kind of evil deeds, etc.), and Al-Baghy (i.e. all kinds of oppression), He admonishes you, that you may take heed.
Verily! Allah commands that you should render back the trusts to those, to whom they are due; and that when you judge between men, you judge with justice. Verily, how excellent is the teaching which He (Allah) gives you! Truly, Allah is Ever All-Hearer, All-Seer.
these are the morals of the Quran
 
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I doubt there were any "political forces" that were involved in the issue of the virginity of Aisha during the lifetime of the Prophet. It is more likely in my opinion that this issue was more important during the emerging split between Shiah and Sunni that occurred very strongly when Aisha joined an attack against the fourth Caliph Ali ibn abi Talib.

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Battle of the Camel - Wikipedia

Why would Aisha's enemies choose to question her virginity before marriage to Muhammad? She had no children with Muhammad for her opponents to slander. Why? - unless there were already rumors in circulation that her enemies could leverage. ... Or maybe Aisha really was married at the age of six and consummated at the age of nine. If she had entered puberty, then she was ready for marriage by the standards of those times.

CORRECTION: The age of first menstruation determined the girl's readiness for marriage in ancient times - not the onset of puberty.
 
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Cloudy I'd encourage you to learn more about the ccurrents of early Islam and I mean the issues between Shiah and Sunni sections... It might help shed some light on why there are partisans for Aisha... For myself the age of Aisha at her marriage is not so much an issue as I explained earlier because there was no universal calendar at the time and the Hadith is from a vast collection a few centuries old. We really don't have an accurate way to decide how old these persons were.
 
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Other than Jim Jones and Timothy McVeigh, no.

Note that by the time of Jonestown, Jim Jones had ceased to be any kind of Christian but was instead a doctrinaire Communist (who desired that the funds of his cult be given to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union after their mass suicide).
 
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Other than Jim Jones and Timothy McVeigh, no.

You might explore some of the events of Christian history that some are probably less inclined to discuss here..

Christian terrorism - Wikipedia

That there are those who distort scriptures and seek to exploit the naivety of people for their own selfish ends there can be little doubt at least in my view.
 
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I've actually used multiple sources over the years. What matters is not their commentary, but the actual verses from the Quran they reference. I understand that in the early years Mohammed wrote about peaceful co-existence. In later life, however, the writings changed and Islam became much more militaristic. It is these verses that the terrorists quote when they do evil. Of course, the obvious question is, if the Quran has two different messages,how could it be from the same God?

If I had no love for Muslims i would leave them to perish in their ignorance without ever speaking the truth of Jesus Christ. As He commands us to spread His word of love and forgiveness, so also must we extend that word to those following false religions which will lead to their ultimate destruction. True love speaks the truth even when it isn't popular.
Did Jesus actually ask us to speak against other religions? I don't think that is very Christian
 
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Even the most bloodthirsty Christian terrorists have not flown commercial airliners into buildings @Arthra.
good...to inform you these terrorist who commit these acts are not Muslims and will not enter paradise... can you say the same about those bloodthirsty Christians???
 
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Note that by the time of Jonestown, Jim Jones had ceased to be any kind of Christian but was instead a doctrinaire Communist (who desired that the funds of his cult be given to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union after their mass suicide).
He never actually was a Christian. He was a false teacher who used Christianity to his advantage. As the Bible said, there have been and will be many false teachers, some more successful than others.
 
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That there are those who distort scriptures and seek to exploit the naivety of people for their own selfish ends there can be little doubt at least in my view.
Using the name of God in vain is unforgivable.
That doesn't mean profanity.
That means doing evil things in His name, like blowing up people in a marketplace or claiming to be a prophet so people will give you all their money.
 
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Using the name of God in vain is unforgivable.
That doesn't mean profanity.
That means doing evil things in His name, like blowing up people in a marketplace or claiming to be a prophet so people will give you all their money.
My own church has been very guilty of this
 
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good...to inform you these terrorist who commit these acts are not Muslims and will not enter paradise... can you say the same about those bloodthirsty Christians???

Interestingly enough I can't even say that about the 9/11 hijackers. I would not presume to circumscribe divine mercy.
 
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Did Jesus actually ask us to speak against other religions? I don't think that is very Christian
What did Jesus say of the Pharisees who were teaching an altered version of the Scriptures?
If all religions were okay, why did Jesus tell us to spread the gospel to the ends of the earth? Why did He tell us that He and only He was the redeemer of man?
Our Muslim friends are following a false religion that will lead them to destruction. We are not showing love if we shut up and let them be destroyed by their sins. Most will ignore us, but if one looks at the evil behavior of the false prophet, looks at the evil command that apostates be killed (no religion of a true God would say such a thing) and finds the one true God, Creator of Heaven and Earth, reachable only through His son Jesus, then it's worth it.

Where are the voices of our Christian brothers and sisters? Do we not want to share eternity with our Muslim friends? Are we so selfish that we refuse to share the message of redemption through Christ our Savior? Do we not see that our Lord warned of false prophets who would deceive many? Our Muslim friends are here reaching out to us. Don't we owe it to them and to our Lord to tell them the truth?
 
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Interestingly enough I can't even say that about the 9/11 hijackers. I would not presume to circumscribe divine mercy.
Interesting reply, how can any of us say who will get into heaven and who won't.
 
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good...to inform you these terrorist who commit these acts are not Muslims and will not enter paradise... can you say the same about those bloodthirsty Christians???
Yes. Those who desire murder do not know Christ.
 
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Interesting reply, how can any of us say who will get into heaven and who won't.
We have the Scriptures and Christ's teachings to tell us who will make it and who will not. We are not the judges. That's God's job. However, since the hijackers were not Christian and died committing murder while defaming God, there's not much chance of running into them in Paradise.
 
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good...to inform you these terrorist who commit these acts are not Muslims and will not enter paradise... can you say the same about those bloodthirsty Christians???

How can you say they were not Muslims? I'm sure they were very devoted to Islam, and they were doing something that they considered to be noble. They were not very different from the Japanese soldiers who selflessly sacrificed themselves in kamikaze attacks. They were Japanese heroes. (I realize that is probably politically incorrect of me, but that is what I think.)

EDIT: Of course the Islamic terrorism was not part of a formal war, so that made it somewhat different from the Japanese example I mentioned above.
 
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How can you say they were not Muslims? I'm sure they were very devoted to Islam, and they were doing something that they considered to be noble. They were not very different from the Japanese soldiers who selflessly sacrificed themselves in kamikaze attacks. They were Japanese heroes. (I realize that is probably politically incorrect of me, but that is what I think.)

EDIT: Of course the Islamic terrorism was not part of a formal war, so that made it somewhat different from the Japanese example I mentioned above.


I suspect it's because the word Muslim means follower of God, not follower of Islam. Once the religion is formed the meaning is lost because now a Muslim is somebody that is part of the Islamic faith, but not necessarily a follower of God, thus not a Muslim (by the words meaning) in her eyes.
 
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