who is prophet Mohammad

[Robban]

what does this have to do with Islam and Muslims?? I have told you many times those terrorist are not applying the teaching of the prophet Mohammad they are not applying the teaching of islam
the teaching of islam is and the prophet Mohammad is:
Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life
this is the Quran talking so you wish to believe this terrorist man or the Quran the book of Muslims?

Post #161, ring a bell?

Of course media plays a big roll.

Josef Goebels danced with joy when the radio reciever became common place in German homes.

 

[Robban]

Propaganda is propaganda.

 

[Eyes wide Open]

a divine book helps you to know whom you are worshipping whether it was the torah the bible or the Quran...
this difference may be due to the misinterpretation and not a real difference..people understood the message wrongly that is why there are some differences.

I see the Quran and Muhammad the same way as I do all religious scripture and the central characters within them, that they were intended for a context and culture and that's where they should be left. That's not to say we can't gain insight reflecting upon that culture and context, but religion holds back progress, so I have none, nor will I.
You may have a culture and context that aligns itself more with how Muhammad lived his life, I do not. The infrastructure of politics, law, and morality already exist within a secular democratic system that I currently reside in, one that welcomes all who want to live within that framework, a system that caters for all faiths or none.

If a divine book holds multiple interpretations then what you worship is undefined, because it's open to interpretation. So whether it's the same God or essence is redundant by that overview, it literally means nothing. It's like hungry animals fighting over the same piece of food, the sameness of the food makes no difference to the ones fighting or anybody watching on.
If the thing to be interpreted has multiple interpretations from a different culture, context and language, then let go of the thing that creates the misinterpretation and focus on some core connective values to being human.

 

[habibii zahra]

Sorry hab but muslim faith is 'THE' face of terrorism in this modern world! No doubt about it my friend. We all have bad 'history' but i am talking about 'now'.

so if you have bad history can I call your religion a face of terrorism??? is Christianity the face of terrorism see what is happening in Iraq due to the American attack?? can we say Christianity is the face of terrorism and Jesus is a terrorist Prophet?? answer me

 

[Goatee]

so if you have bad history can I call your religion a face of terrorism??? is Christianity the face of terrorism see what is happening in Iraq due to the American attack?? can we say Christianity is the face of terrorism and Jesus is a terrorist Prophet?? answer me

If it weren't for America, UK, France, Germany etc, tyrants would be stomping all over the world as the middle east does not care about each other. You hardly ever see a mddle eastern country coming to the rescue of another!

Muslim is the word in terrorism around the world. Its a shame as its a tiny % that is giving it its bad name!

 

[Robban]

so if you have bad history can I call your religion a face of terrorism??? is Christianity the face of terrorism see what is happening in Iraq due to the American attack?? can we say Christianity is the face of terrorism and Jesus is a terrorist Prophet?? answer me

Whichever way one looks at it, whatever the religion,

To create confusion is most effective, and today there is confusion.

 

[Robban]

Whichever way one looks at it, whatever the religion,

To create confusion is most effective, and today there is confusion.

Surprise attacks create confusion,

So much so that the attacked can turn on eachother, not knowing who is who.

 

[habibii zahra]

I think religion walks near the progress throughout its way

The infrastructure of politics, law, and morality already exist within a secular democratic system that I currently reside in.

So how about adding to this system the concept of believing in one God??? How will it be??

The people who fear God restrain from doing sins and thus the society would become free of sins..the people who doesn’t believe in God are more close to do sins thus the society would contain crimes injustice and bad deeds

The divine book is one there is no difference ..people are misinterpreting the religion this is not the fault of religion this is the fault of people…God is not undefined ..it is not God’s fault that people went wrong in interpreting religions divine books and the teaching of the prophets

So whether it's the same God or essence is redundant by that overview, it literally means nothing.

What means nothing??? The existence of God???...do you exists?? How do you exist? If God doesn’t exist how are you existing now?? Your existence is a proof for God’s…God is here ..God for all people all nations all religions the same God the one the unique what does mean nothing???

Whom you are comparing with a hungry animals?? Can you please clarify?

If the thing to be interpreted has multiple interpretations from a different culture, context and language, then let go of the thing that creates the misinterpretation and focus on some core connective values to being human.

No instead of letting go the divine books and the prophet’s teachings we can reach an interpretation common between each other..

Societies need religions..they need the existence of God…because believing in God can improve the conditions of those societies

We need god in our life…..this is a must…not having God leads to do all bad deeds..beleiving in God means to restrain from doing bad deeds out of fear from punishment

 

[habibii zahra]

If it weren't for America, UK, France, Germany etc, tyrants would be stomping all over the world as the middle east does not care about each other. You hardly ever see a mddle eastern country coming to the rescue of another!

Muslim is the word in terrorism around the world. Its a shame as its a tiny % that is giving it its bad name!

if it weren't for America UK France Germany there wouldn't have been billions of victims in Iraq in Syria and in the middle east..

in the Quran an invitation to stop oppressing:

"Allah likes not the transgressors." (AL BAKARA 190)
"But if they incline to peace, you also incline to it, and (put your) trust in Allah. Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower." (AL ANFAL 61)
is this a religion of terrorism or peace

 

[Goatee]

if it weren't for America UK France Germany there wouldn't have been billions of victims in Iraq in Syria and in the middle east..

in the Quran an invitation to stop oppressing:

"Allah likes not the transgressors." (AL BAKARA 190)
"But if they incline to peace, you also incline to it, and (put your) trust in Allah. Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower." (AL ANFAL 61)
is this a religion of terrorism or peace

Why is the quran full of telling people to kill then?

Again, the allied nations have stood together to fight for freedom. Just like in the 2 great wars. Its always us that has to save the undefended.

 

[habibii zahra]

Why is the quran full of telling people to kill then?

Again, the allied nations have stood together to fight for freedom. Just like in the 2 great wars. Its always us that has to save the undefended.

the Quran is full of telling people to do righteous deeds and not evil deeds ..evil deeds are killing ..good deeds are to save innocent people
for freedom??? America invaded Iraq for freedom or for oil??? can you answer this?
why the women scarf was prohibited in school??? where is freedom? why in france the woman who covers her head cannot work...where is your freedom???
freedom is when you humiliate a sacred prophet and humiliate a whole community through putting evil cartoons about him?? this is freedom?? to kill people?? to humiliate their prophet?? to draw humiliating cartoons about him..what a freedom is that??

 

[Goatee]

the Quran is full of telling people to do righteous deeds and not evil deeds ..evil deeds are killing ..good deeds are to save innocent people
for freedom??? America invaded Iraq for freedom or for oil??? can you answer this?
why the women scarf was prohibited in school??? where is freedom? why in france the woman who covers her head cannot work...where is your freedom???
freedom is when you humiliate a sacred prophet and humiliate a whole community through putting evil cartoons about him?? this is freedom?? to kill people?? to humiliate their prophet?? to draw humiliating cartoons about him..what a freedom is that??

Why is alcohol not allowed in Saudi etc? Why are no Christian churches allowed? Why are we not allowed to wear a cross there?

Scarf is only used as the muslim men cannot control themselves! Simples

In Christianity people try to humiliate God etc but we don't go around murdering people because of freedom of speech!

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

we are helping you..not everything reaches you because your media is biased but we are working here..what do you think the Syrian army is doing in Syria??? aren't they fighting the terrorists??? people in Irak are fighting the terrorists also...their news aren't reaching you

The Syrian army, "Hezbollah", Russia, Iran, Iranian-backed militias (from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan) are the terrorists and they're committing ethnic cleansing and genocide in Syria.

Hashd al-Shaabi are themselves terrorists in Iraq. I hope they and ISIS are both destroyed.

 

[habibii zahra]

Why is alcohol not allowed in Saudi etc? Why are no Christian churches allowed? Why are we not allowed to wear a cross there?

Scarf is only used as the muslim men cannot control themselves! Simples

In Christianity people try to humiliate God etc but we don't go around murdering people because of freedom of speech!

who told you there is no church?? and if there was no church they are not doing what the prophet wants..our prophet says if someone married a Christian woman he is not allowed to forbid her from going to the church...they are wrong...you should differentiate between the acts of Muslims and the teachings of prophet Mohammad..same as you don't do what jesus Christ says for you to do..it is the same...you are free to wear a cross no one will hit you...
this is not freedom of speech this is a humiliation ..there is no freedom in humiliating people especially a peaceful prophet like Mohammad
no the scarf is present in Judaism and Christianity it is not because men cannot control themselves even for Jewish there was a scarf for jewish women and in Christianity also...why do the woman put a cover upon her head when she enters to the church??
I am asking you again you are talking that you are with freedom of speech and we are not..where is the freedom when you forbid the scarf in the schools and in work??

 

[habibii zahra]

The Syrian army, "Hezbollah", Russia, Iran, Iranian-backed militias (from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan) are the terrorists and they're committing ethnic cleansing and genocide in Syria.

Hashd al-Shaabi are themselves terrorists in Iraq. I hope they and ISIS are both destroyed.

Daish is not terroirsts??? "Jabhaat AN-Nusra are not terrorist ..they are killing people everywhere in the name of prophet Mohammad...prophet Mohammad is not pleased with them...they are defacing the truth of our religion and of our prophet.... they are killing people in the name of God..who told you these are the teachings of the prophet?? what they are doing is against the teaching of our prophet and they will not smell the scent of the paradise

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

As for who is Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), here is what some non-Muslims had to say about him:

"He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope's pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports." - Bosworth Smith in Mohammed and Mohammadanism, London 1874, p. 92 (235?)

"If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and souls... the forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death; all these attest not to an imposture but to a firm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was twofold, the unit of God and the immateriality of God; the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with words."

"Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?" - Alphonse de Lamartine in Histoire de la Turquie, Paris 1854, Vol II, pp. 276-77

 

[Goatee]

who told you there is no church?? and if there was no church they are not doing what the prophet wants..our prophet says if someone married a Christian woman he is not allowed to forbid her from going to the church...they are wrong...you should differentiate between the acts of Muslims and the teachings of prophet Mohammad..same as you don't do what jesus Christ says for you to do..it is the same...you are free to wear a cross no one will hit you...
this is not freedom of speech this is a humiliation ..there is no freedom in humiliating people especially a peaceful prophet like Mohammad
no the scarf is present in Judaism and Christianity it is not because men cannot control themselves even for Jewish there was a scarf for jewish women and in Christianity also...why do the woman put a cover upon her head when she enters to the church??
I am asking you again you are talking that you are with freedom of speech and we are not..where is the freedom when you forbid the scarf in the schools and in work??

A scarf in a church is different to 'having' to wear one in public anywhere! Why? Religious reasons? No! Muslim men cannot control urges so women have to cover up! Simples. Women should be free to wear what they want.

Try building a Christian church in Saudi! One is only allowed to practice in private!

Muslims get more freedom in non muslim countries than Christians in muslim countries. God Bless you my friend

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

Daish is not terroirsts??? "Jabhaat AN-Nusra are not terrorist ..they are killing people everywhere in the name of prophet Mohammad...prophet Mohammad is not pleased with them...they are defacing the truth of our religion and of our prophet.... they are killing people in the name of God..who told you these are the teachings of the prophet?? what they are doing is against the teaching of our prophet and they will not smell the scent of the paradise

Assad has slaughtered at least 200 Sunni civilians in a genocide. He has ethnically cleansed Darayya and is doing the same in Aleppo. Anyone who is helping him do that is considered a terrorist. His regime/allies are the worst terrorists in Syria. They and daesh should wipe each other out.

How will you try to discredit him?

 

[Robban]

A scarf in a church is different to 'having' to wear one in public anywhere! Why? Religious reasons? No! Muslim men cannot control urges so women have to cover up! Simples. Women should be free to wear what they want.

Try building a Christian church in Saudi! One is only allowed to practice in private!

Muslims get more freedom in non muslim countries than Christians in muslim countries. God Bless you my friend

Difficulty in controlling urges at the sight of hair, that's a new one.

Why not command them to shave their head?

 

[Goatee]

Difficulty in controlling urges at the sight of hair, that's a new one.

Why not command them to shave their head?

Not quite the same though. muslim women have to dress as the men tell them to. They have no freedom.