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Who is Jesus?

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People want to form an image of God in their minds that is warm and fuzzy.

Such an image, however, will never correspond with the reality of this world in which we find ourselves. Any God that could be the Creator of a world such as ours, both magnificent and awesome in its dimensions, will never conform to their image of a teddy bear god that they imagine they might want to worship.

So who is Jesus? Jesus is the Son of a God of such a nature that He could actually ask his Son to die a horrible and awful death on a cross. Jesus is a man of such a character that not only could He love a God such as this, but He could call Him Abba, His Father, even His daddy if you will.

This is indeed a terrible vision of life, but to the extent that it conforms to our reality as we know it, it is a revelation of a God such as God must be, given the type of world we are born into.

Such is the nature of a God that has given us the ability to choose, and to therefore be engaged in morality. Because the consequences of our choices matter and are of a grave importance, we too are therefore important.

Because God has given us the gift of eternal life, and allowed us to eat of the fruit of Tree of Life, Who is Jesus, not only are our choices of consequence in this temporal world, but are of an even greater consequence in the eternal world as well.

None of us know whose names have been entered into the Book of Life. The revelation for Christians, though, is that all will be judged according to their works, and all will acknowledge the perfect justice in which this judgement will be performed.

The essence of this message then, is not live our lives in a miserly fashion, assuming God to be a harsh and cruel master. In fact, from the Bible, it is clear the converse is true, and that God only wants us to use the gifts we have been given in the best manner we possibly can. Eat, drink, and be merry, enjoy life, live life to its fullest, and graciously appreciate all that has been given. We have been given this freedom, absolutely.

This is not a harsh message at all.

In the end, the judgement that Christ pronounces on us will be one and the same as the judgement we would pronounce on ourselves. This is implied by the revelation that we all will acknowledge God perfect justice on our day of Judgement.


The bottom line is found in the Lord's Prayer. As we forgive, so will we be forgiven. The yardstick we judge others with will be the yardstick with which we will be judged. Therefore judge not, lest ye be judged. This statement is infinitely more true when it comes to pronouncing a judgment on our own Creator.:bow:
 
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For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; [1 Timothy 2:5 ]

This has nothing to do with modern DIVIDED apostate christianity, thus one does not need to be a 'christian', nor does one need to know Christ in this life [as most will not, even according to the bible ...

Matthew 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

those who rush into claims of being 'saved' without having the spirit of truth [spirit baptism] will be the last to reach the kingdom, not the first ...

But it is God who determines whom He chooses [indeed has chosen from the beginning] to be His firstfruits, not man ... we cannot change the order of things that are predestinated:

Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own
will:

IT is thus important to realise that God has forgotten nobody and that ALL men serve god even when going in opposite directions, even apostate christians are serving God indirectly ...

Romans 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord’s.
9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

It is so important to realise that the billions left behind to destruction of death at the return of Christ are NOT abandonned by God even though there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth that they thought they would be first saved:

Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Thus one simply has to PROVE everything if one is not to be deceived by apostate religion , there are deep DIVISIONS in the doctrines of men that are labelled as 'christian, and yet it is very obvious that there is ONLY ONE truth of God ,so most people are under "strong delusion.. the point made by scripture is that , surprising, even astonishing to countless many that follow men by just following tradition, do not have the truth of the spirit of truth that would [and will eventually] UNITE ALL men:

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

The reassurance to ALL men is this , Jesus is Saviour of ALL men eventually [but men are obviously not redeemed until AFTER death, many died even before Jesus was born!] :

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: {fitted: or, made up}
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
 
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Can someone explain to me why I must believe Jesus as my God?
please just give me some short explanations.

When you believe Jesus as your God, so you're a christian right?
Can I just believe Jesus as my God but without to be a christian?

Thanks!
Hello!:)


:preach: Jesus is the only begotten son of God. Since we are sinful(rebellious) in nature, and the results of that nature will lead us to death(first natural, then eternal), there had to be some way of restoring us to God so we wouldn't have to suffer eternal death. God sent his son Jesus to suffer the punishment we should have suffered. The pure, sin-free blood that Jesus shed was payment for man's betrayal of God. Now, those that come to God by way of Jesus are saved!!:clap:
 
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Oh man, I'm studying this topic in my New Testament class right now. Believe it or not, this is not an easy question to answer. There's much more to it than any of you probably realize. It would take YEARS to even begin to truly answer this question. But you guys are doing a wonderful job of trying! :)
 
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GlowInTheDark said:
Can someone explain to me why I must believe Jesus as my God?
please just give me some short explanations.

When you believe Jesus as your God, so you're a christian right?
Can I just believe Jesus as my God but without to be a christian?

Thanks!
You don't have to do anything. But if I had to give you one good reason why you *should* believe in Jesus, I'd say, "There's no one else in this world who knows you better than Jesus does." Therefore, only Jesus is able to give what your heart desires. And today, we humans desire a lot - a lot which we won't get, and which we won't find in this world.

Christian means "following Christ". So, yes, if you believe in Jesus and want Him to be the leader in your life, you are a Christian.
Sure you can believe in Jesus without being a Christian (since, after all, it's only a word) - yet, people will automatically see you as a Christian when you say you believe in Jesus.
 
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Beloved Child said:
You don't have to do anything. But if I had to give you one good reason why you *should* believe in Jesus, I'd say, "There's no one else in this world who knows you better than Jesus does." Therefore, only Jesus is able to give what your heart desires. And today, we humans desire a lot - a lot which we won't get, and which we won't find in this world.

Christian means "following Christ". So, yes, if you believe in Jesus and want Him to be the leader in your life, you are a Christian.
Sure you can believe in Jesus without being a Christian (since, after all, it's only a word) - yet, people will automatically see you as a Christian when you say you believe in Jesus.
Thanks I like ur English lol its much easier for me to understand it :thumbsup:
That's why I just need some short explantions because my English is not too good.

But I ever leave Jesus in my life for a long time, do u think can I go back as a real Chrsitian like u or others?
You know it's much simpler when me or u just said Yes, I believe in JC so I'm a Christian now but we always do the same mistakes again, make a sin and then stay away again from life as a nice Christian.
IMO its very hard when we try to be a real Christian but it will be more very hard again when we never to try it.

Once again, Thanks JC loves U.
 
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Glorianna said:
Oh man, I'm studying this topic in my New Testament class right now. Believe it or not, this is not an easy question to answer. There's much more to it than any of you probably realize. It would take YEARS to even begin to truly answer this question. But you guys are doing a wonderful job of trying! :)
Well my questions actually is very simple as long u answer it with faith not with ur mind.

Thanks,
Glow
 
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spreadlove4alll said:
Hello!:)


:preach: Jesus is the only begotten son of God. Since we are sinful(rebellious) in nature, and the results of that nature will lead us to death(first natural, then eternal), there had to be some way of restoring us to God so we wouldn't have to suffer eternal death. God sent his son Jesus to suffer the punishment we should have suffered. The pure, sin-free blood that Jesus shed was payment for man's betrayal of God. Now, those that come to God by way of Jesus are saved!!:clap:
Interesting... but why must Jesus, why not me or u? Is this Jesus truly human?
How about *them* that doesn't have a chance to know Jesus, do u think that they will not be save like us?
 
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