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Who is Jesus?
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Who did Jesus say He was? He said He was God's Son.
Was He lying? He is seen as a good teacher and good teachers don't lie.
Was He insane? Can insane men cure the blind?
Was He having delusions of grandeur? Why wasn't He in the tomb?
Who could have the body? The Pharisees? If they had it, why didn't they present the body when they could? The disciples didn't have it because they didn't know Jesus left the tomb. And why would the government want the body?
This information was taken from The Case for Christ.
Was He lying? He is seen as a good teacher and good teachers don't lie.
Was He insane? Can insane men cure the blind?
Was He having delusions of grandeur? Why wasn't He in the tomb?
Who could have the body? The Pharisees? If they had it, why didn't they present the body when they could? The disciples didn't have it because they didn't know Jesus left the tomb. And why would the government want the body?
This information was taken from The Case for Christ.
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In order for there to be matter to explode, there must first be matter. There is a law of physics saying matter can't be created or erased. Therefore we can assume matter existed before the universe. Only one problem: if matter can't be created, how can it create itself?luc said:
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Friend, This is what the Scirptures clearly teaches.luc said:
How is that loving someone? (You gonna have to ask God)
But since you asked me, I'll give you my opinion. God loved the world to the point where He sent Jesus (his only begotten Son), to die as a voluntary and vicarious, substitute for all sinful men. Apart from Christ and the Cross, there is no acceptance in God's sight. God's love is demostrated on the Cross.
To warn people about Hell and eternal retribution, is to proclaim that 'Godly love', it is to warn the lost,"Hey come to Christ now, while there is time, before it is eternally too late." Friend can you see the love in the warning. To know the awful consequences of a sinful, Christ-rejecting man, and to warn him of the peril that is ahead is nothing short of true godly biblical love.
Further more, my love for God, far exceeds my love for man, IN THAT I will not change God's Word to suite YOUR otherwise anti-Christ mentality, even at the expense of your soul. It is God who is first and foremost in the area of love, then afterwards others (BUT never is it right to put the cart before its
Maker).
With all my Love,
Please bow now, or you will in the future.
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Asar'el
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Tell me, how do YOU show respect to someone? Or do you consider yourself above everyone else? Would your casual attitude be the same in the presence of a monarch? A king, a queen, a president?luc said:
What is your idea of showing respect to God? Or is He beneath you? What do you think your reaction will be when coming into the presence of the omnipotent Creator? It's easy to defy God when folks think there will not be an accounting - but I believe it, when it says, every knee shall bow to Him. The devil, with all his power (for he was, before his fall, exalted), yet knows that God is God.
If you do not think God deserves your bow (and more!) - you don't know Him very well.
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ronaldp
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Dear GlowInThe dark, I'm sorry for the loss of your parents, but bad things do happen in life. When it does you should go to God for comfort and companion. He will be right there with you always that's why you don't have to feel lonely. And sometimes good things can come out of a bad things. God will get you through every obstacles that is in you life, all you have to do is ask Him to help you, simple right.GlowInTheDark said:hey guys actually I'm a christian but i never go to chruch and never pray or read a bible. Thats why I called myself as an atheist.
yeah I knew that Jesus love me so much but why he takes my parent away?
I'm an orphan boy now. And I feel lonely.. sometimes I feel so sad when christmas come coz I saw my friends can meet their parent and celebrate christmas together but I ...
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Asar'el
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Since I did not say such, I take it you must be answering another post - yet I will try and take this one...luc said:
Who says God needs a power trip? You? As I pointed out, you're hardly qualified to make such a statement; your opinion is not agreed with.
And who said anything about God scaring people into respecting Him? God deserves respecf from us (the creatures) because He is God (the Creator). Do you not respect your parents at all? God is the ultimate parent. Have you no respect for your teachers ? God is the best teacher. Look around, and you might learn that there are those around you deserving respect; and where we (humans) are failable, God is perfect - from that alone far more deserving of respect from all creatures...
The universe exists by God's providence; by Him we consist. Considering who God is, and who we are in relationship, should be ample reason to listen to His word, instead of our selfish pride. Try it sometime.
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luc said:
To you it may seem as a power trip. But Friend, When God the Father placed all the world's sin on the Cross, He was working your salvation so that you don't have to suffer the wages of sin. If you do not bow to Christ and recognize Him as the Savior, there just isn't any other sacrifice that will suffice...that is your choice. To render to Jesus all majesty and glory that is rightfully His, recognizing Him to be the Lord and Savior is an invitation, you can choose to do it now, or you will later..read the verses that I quote from (Philippians 2:5-11).
you can call that 'scaring people into respecting him' I call it warning people. See you don't have to take my word for it...take God's Word for it (read the passage).
If that rubs you wrong...I really don't feel sorry for you...The Creator (God) is much more higher and worthy than the creature (you or I). Take it up with God.
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Asar'el
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Your parents are also not the creators of the Universe. Threaten one of your friends, and it may be laughed of. Threaten the president of the United States, and it's a different matter.luc said:
When you misbehaved as a child, did your parents punish you? Keep in mind parents are still only human - they are not perfect; but God is. Parents make mistakes. God does not. The fact that you consider your crime (not bowing) light, does not make it so. If your parents were policemen, and you commited a crime, should you get away with it because you are their child? Should they ignore the law because they love you?
Do you truly believe that's what Christianity is about? This is what you think the gospel (the good news) is - 'Bow to me or I will roast you in Hell?'
If so, all I can answer to that is, you are much mistaken. I say, knowing God (evern imperfectly as I do), I cannot help but want to bow down, aye, lie down before Him. It's not that He asks me to bow down; I can't get low enough knowing how far above me He already is; but the wonders of wonder? Not only does He prevent me from sinking into hell, but he raises me up to stand before Him, and wipes my tears, and washes me clean. I know not one Christian that knows God and feels differently - do you?
There's a difference between us - you seem to hear Him say Bow down, I hear Him say, Come up hither.
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What do you know about being God? (I'm not trying to be mean, please understand...)luc said:
God is worthy to be praised, love and adored. HE is worthy. The Bible is clear as I have thus covered already.
Please don't take these questions wrong, I have no ill intentions in my heart towards you:
1. What right do you have to tell God what He needs or not needs to feel?
2. Why do you have a problem with God's clear Word in the area of bowing down unto Him? Is he not more than worthy?
3. Do you have a better redemption plan than that which was already done by Jesus? How do you plan to improve upon the finished work of Christ? Is there any other name given among men whereby we must be saved?
You might think it to be concieted, or 'human like' or even perhaps wrong, but I'm here to tell you that this is because you obviously have an unregenerate mind. God needs nothing. Need is not in His vocabulary. God wants something, He wants so badly you and I, He sent Jesus to bear your sins and my sins. I just am thankful that 9 years ago, i trusted the Lord Jesus as my Savior. I pray that you would come to that conclusion, and if and when you do, then you won't have such a problem with Philippians 2:5-11. I pray that you get on the right side, especially on such an issue as salvation. This really is the most important decision you'll ever make.
With all my Love,
PBH
PS. Amen again Asare'l!!!!Preach, hey i like what you said about "Come up hither".... I also get the same feeling. Isn't it wonderful to be a Christian?
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The good news is that Jesus Christ, the Eternal Son of God, became a man, took upon him all the sins of the world, died on the Cross and, rose again on the third day, triumphant over death, hell and sin. Transaltion: the work of salvation is finished. The good news is that if you or any of the 70% would repent and trust Christ alone for salvation, then he will be to them a glorious Savior.
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Blessed2003
Duck, duck, duck, GOOSE..
Forgive me, I am losing control of my emotions, I only read the last page, but it made me very sad to see brothers and sisters fighting over this.I wanted to say one thing, I won't use quotation marks because it's not necessary, but we should all know this. God gives grace to the humble, but pride comes before a fall.
Blessings,
B
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The Bible teaches otherwise...luc said:
For example: Jesus Christ himself called the Pharisees in John 8:44 basically a child of the devil. (Therefore your presupposition is wrong).
Secondly, the only way a person becomes a child of God is through Christ, check out John 1:12 for instance. No child of God will ever suffer condemnation see John 5:24.
Anyway....Friend you have a bigger problem than I can solve, but nothing God couldn't. I pray that you become regenerate and join me in bowing down to a loving and worthy Lord.
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