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The man of sin will come from Babylon. I did not yet have it proven that it is the land of Iraq. I came across in Jeremiah 50-51 that all the words were spoken to one place - this place, on the Euphrates River.
Israel.....<<man of sin nation.......>goes east .............goes to the south
/as being found within the bounds of the Greek kingdom.......

I have man of sin coming from Syria. You have the Antichrist from Iraq going to the east and to the south which probably is a reference to Dan 7:9. The Antichrist attacks nations to the east and south of his nation and also invades Israel the &#8216;Beautiful Land.&#8217; If you would, look at a map of the Middle East. The nation to the east is Iran; it was not in the Babylonian Empire, Assyrian Empire or the Roman Empire. The nation to the south is Saudi Arabia; it was not in any of the previous empires except for the northern section of Saudi Arabia that was in the Babylonian Empire.

Prophecy requires the 10 horns come from within the Roman Empire of which Saudi Arabia and Iran do not qualify. Three of the 10 horns subdued by the Antichrist must come from the fourth empire, the Roman Empire. Saudi Arabia and Iran cannot be two of these three nations.

The Antichrist coming from Syria (king of the north) will invade Egypt to the south and Iraq and Kuwait to the east and Israel. With the conquest of these nations the Antichrist will have given rebirth to the Assyrian Empire, one of the five kingdoms that had fallen before John&#8217;s day, was not a kingdom then, and will come as the eighth kingdom.

I knew the horses (some) end up in Shinar, but it would be many years later that I would understand the ephah was set back right in Shinar where it had come from (Zec 5:5-11). It is a shattered part of Shinar's former empire, and this helped to convince me the Babylon of the end days is Iraq.

No part of the former Babylonian empire was &#8216;shattered&#8217; by the Persian Empire; they entered the city unopposed without destroying any part of the city. The city was standing when Zechariah was told the two women like birds were taking the ephah to the country of Babylonian to build another house for it. Ancient Babylon still existed at the time a second Babylon had to be built much later.

I thought you saw Gog as not coming till the time of just before the 1000 years. Israel has to return from being scattered by the sword, dwell safely (all of them) without walls, and gain goods and cattle. Gog later gathers his company to take those goods away.
Gog attacks Israel twice, at the end of the great tribulation and again after a thousand years. Israel dwelling safely without walls is on the horizon prior to the great tribulation.

What makes you see America as Babylon the Great of the last days?
PROPHECY, SUMMARY UNITED STATES IN BIBLE PROPHECY, SUMMARY AMERICA IN BIBLE PROPHECY
 
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She will rebuild when?
Zech. 6 shows it will be in the latter days of the Greek kingdom/mountains of brass.
There will be the north country and the south country parts of the former kingdom of brass. Daniel 2 third kingdom/made of brass

Zech 6 is God's spirit going out to all the whole world. Another error in the KJB, they did not have brass back then, the NIV has bronze.
 
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38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him

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It's not who....but what..........


Arrogance is unteachable!

REV 20:7-8 And when the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, -
Gog and MaGog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore.



REV 20:710, And when the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth,
Gog​
and Ma
Gog​
, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore. And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them. And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Rev. 20:7-10{Verses 7-10: Mention of Satan's Release and on to the Last Revolution}
7~~Now when the thousand years had been completed (millenium) {teleo},
Satan {Satanas} was released from his prison.

{Note: Interesting thing in this verse, is the use of 'Satanas' for Satan. Instead of using the transliteration from the Hebrew, John uses Satanas, which is an Aramaic word (looks similar but is different). This is because the idea is that Satan has now 'served his due' to society and now should be rehabilitated after 1000 years in prison. Satan will clear up that myth in the next verse.}
{After 1000 Year Perfect Reign of Christ - Dissatisfied Humans Revolt}



8~~Then he {Satan} will go out {exerchomai}
{2nd Advent of Satan - both times he comes to 'improve' perfect
environment - 1st time was in the Garden in Genesis 3}
'with the purpose to deceive' {planao - infinitive of purpose}
the nations
{Satan always uses his great genius to deceive humans to join him}
those in the four hemispheres/corners/quarters {gonia} of the earth Gog
{code name for Satan as the leader of revolution}
and Magog
{code name for the Anti-Christ followers in the revolution}
to concentrate/assemble {sunago} them for battle
{polemos - to fight and kill - to use violence to obtain their goals}
whose number is as the sand of the sea
{large number of humans will join in the revolt}.



9~~Then they marched/advanced
{anabaino - aggressive Greek verb}
over the 'wide terrain' {platos} of the land
{most likely the valley near Armageddon},
and surrounded the bivouac/'fortified camp' {parembole}
of the saints/'set-apart to God ones' {hagios},
and the beloved city {Jerusalem}.
Then fire came down {katabaino}
from heaven
{pur - fire - some kind of divine 'flame-thrower', nuclear attack,
or a laser weapon - the details really are not given - just the
principal here},
and devoured/consumed/destroyed {katesthio} them.




{Note: Just as with the 2nd Advent, Jesus needs no help! He destroys Satan and his forces single handedly.}


10~~And the enemy/devil {diabolos}
who had deceived them
was thrown into the lake of fire and sulphur . . .
where the beast
{the dictator of the revived Roman empire}
and the false prophet
{false messiah and dictator of Israel} {are located} . . .
and they will be tormented/tortured {basanizo}
day and night . . . forever and ever {eis aion aion}.

 
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Zech 6 is God's spirit going out to all the whole world. Another error in the KJB, they did not have brass back then, the NIV has bronze.
yes they did. From before the flood, mankind understood metallurgy.
Bronze and brass are copper alloys, and from the beginning, man has understood the processes.



Gen 4:22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain [was] Naamah.
 
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