Dear BNR: I hate to disclose to you that repentance is granted, in short "given"/ didomi by Father!
NOT by the will of the flesh, NOR the will of man BUT of God.
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The Bible does tell us who will burn in the lake of fire. Those who do not repent and do not abide in Christ will burn in the lake of fire.
The Bible does tell us who will burn in the lake of fire. Those who do not repent and do not abide in Christ will burn in the lake of fire.
Yeah that would be an atheist?
For me it sounds like a stretch beyond the text to suggest that Revelation 21:8 is exclusively talking to Christ rejecters alone. Paul says there are those who preach another Jesus and another gospel. Can another Jesus and another gospel save? Surely not.
Dear BNR: I hate to disclose to you that repentance is granted, in short "given"/ didomi by Father!
NOT by the will of the flesh, NOR the will of man BUT of God.
Yeah that would be an atheist?
So then a believer cannot say the atheist who rejects God is not saved. So a believer in this instance could not judge. The believer could not even silently judge or think that others are not saved (Which is a form of judgment).
Right, God's Word decides who goes to the Lake of Fire. It says "all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire." (Revelation 21:8). It does not say "some liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire" and neither does John mention another group of liars that are going to enter God's kingdom.
Not by the will (desire) of the flesh (the will of our sinful nature)
Not by the will (desire) of man (the desire of another person)
But of God (who according to 1 Timothy 2:3-4 and 2 Peter 3:9 desires that all men come to repentance and be saved and that none should perish.
Not quite, Devin.
The cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur/ theion.
This is the second death.
I think your wrong. God will be their judge not you.
Dear BNR:
Not= loti
Desires= epithumia
Willeth= thelema
God's epithumia is His desire/ craving/ longing
God's will is His thelema
Whose will prevails? Dust or Divinity?
Let's face the facts, you're not God. and then you don't decide who goes to the lake of fire or not. In that I agree.So then a believer cannot say the atheist who rejects God is not saved. So a believer in this instance could not judge. The believer could not even silently judge or think that others are not saved (Which is a form of judgment).
So if I'm mentally disabled and therefore a liar, in your opinion do they go t the lake of fire? The reason I post this is because I help mentally disabled people. Should I be telling them they're headed for the lake fire?
Dear Devin: Every hour of every day of every week of every month of every year over 500 children under the age of five dies. I believe the Father of all fathers sees every common bird fall, not one of these wee children falls unnoticed. Regarding the mentally disabled>>>
The whole of created life SHALL BE delivered!
Yes they fell, and God will be the judge. And that is what we should take from the bible.
What's your point? God will be our judge and anyone else preaching different is wrong.Dear Devin: Our God is far more than our Judge, He is our Father, known in intimate terms as Abba, Father.
Gather up the fragments that NOTHING be lost/ apollumi
Dear BNR:
Not= loti
Desires= epithumia
Willeth= thelema
God's epithumia is His desire/ craving/ longing
God's will is His thelema
Whose will prevails? Dust or Divinity?
Dear Devin: My point is our Father can be trusted. His essence is not Judge, He is Love, the Father out of whom all His attributes flow.What's your point? God will be our judge and anyone else preaching different is wrong.
Did you notice the word used in 1 Timothy 2:4? Thélō G2309 is the verb form of thelema G2307. Of course I know your a universalist so you believe all will repent and be saved but for those of us who know better this is an indication that the word “will” in the Bible often means desire and not actually something that is made to be so.
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