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I know I can take questions in prayer to the Lord which I do but I will give you an example.

I was reading something in Bible a few days ago, I was unsure what it ment ( does not matter now as think I have it sorted ) . I felt I needed to ask someone who was a Christian while I was acually studying the Bible as I was stuck.

I have the contact details for a few people from Church and the Pastor. I do not like bothering him with little things like this so eventually contacted a Christian lady from Church who has been Saved for about 40 years. She told me what she thought this meant, so was ok this time.

As a newly recommited Christian ( was Saved before but backslid) I want to learn what I can butsomtimes reading the Bible is not enough for me , I sometimes have questions . I know I can search the internet but when I find a site to answer I find another that says something else.

I feel I meed a relationship with one person who can guide me and help me with answers, does anyone else find this ?
 
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For general christian doctrine/ Bible questions you might find the christian apologetics section useful. Have you found any good christian teaching websites yet? Us older christians would be happy to help you as well. :)

thanks wll have a look at that section. I sometiems just find the internt so overwhelming when trying to find something and would nto want ot post on wrong section of the forum.
 
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thanks wll have a look at that section. I sometiems just find the internt so overwhelming when trying to find something and would nto want ot post on wrong section of the forum.

Another option that may be less threatening to you than posting openly with questions is to PM one of those Christians that you have read posts here from and trust their posts as Scripturally sound. Most will willingly accept questions in PM from new, or newly returned, Christians seeking deeper understanding. I am not referring to those that just post what you want to read, sometimes it is a matter of asking for clarification of things posted that seem foreign to you or not fully clear.

THEN, and this is the REALLY important part; bounce their thoughts and advice against Scriptures. Do not accept one verse justifications for beliefs. Do not accept short snippets of Scripture that seem to go against the other Scriptures around what they use for doctrine to guide. The Bible can be verified by the Bible. If it is important for us to know, GOD said it more than once or twice in other areas of HIS Word, in sometimes the very same wording, often times in different phrases that mean exactly the same thing.

When I am really struggling for clarity, I go to "BlueletterBible.com". There I can type in the verses, pick various translations, and look at commentaries on the Scriptures from various Bible scholars and Pastors. I read and study from all available theological doctrines there. I do not discount Calvinists, nor Weslyans, nor any with other views. I am there seeking knowledge of GOD's Truth and rely upon the Holy Spirit to make clear that which is to that point unclear. If the Scripture remains unclear to me, I then go directly to one of my Pastors at my home congregation and ask.

I believe that new Christians, must stay within their own congregations' Pastoral staff for the hard questions until, and unless, the Holy Spirit leads them away from that congregation. I am not saying that the Holy Spirit will lead them away, just that sometimes, denominations and congregations are stuck in a single mission. They are good at presenting the Gospel of Jesus very, very well and leading people to Christ Jesus as Savior and LORD, and then, fall short in continuing spiritual growth leading to sanctification. Not always, but sometimes. This is not to find fault, because presenting the Gospel to spiritually dead people is the very important first step and if one is called to fulfill that ministry, WOOHOO! Praise GOD! Present Jesus that He may draw all unto Himself.

AND, there is more. Then there is training up a child of GOD into their purpose in GOD that they can go and fulfill their ministry in GOD to influence others to the glory of GOD. ALL, let me repeat this, ALL born again believers in Christ, have a ministry, a purpose in Christ to fulfill. Some congregations are not good at doing this. Sometimes, often times, that ministry is to just let others see Christ in us wherever we are.

Be blessed,
Lee52
 
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I know I can take questions in prayer to the Lord which I do but I will give you an example.

I was reading something in Bible a few days ago, I was unsure what it ment ( does not matter now as think I have it sorted ) . I felt I needed to ask someone who was a Christian while I was acually studying the Bible as I was stuck.

I have the contact details for a few people from Church and the Pastor. I do not like bothering him with little things like this so eventually contacted a Christian lady from Church who has been Saved for about 40 years. She told me what she thought this meant, so was ok this time.

As a newly recommited Christian ( was Saved before but backslid) I want to learn what I can butsomtimes reading the Bible is not enough for me , I sometimes have questions . I know I can search the internet but when I find a site to answer I find another that says something else.

I feel I meed a relationship with one person who can guide me and help me with answers, does anyone else find this ?

What church do you attend that you don't feel comfortable asking your pastor? He's there to help FEED you!
 
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What church do you attend that you don't feel comfortable asking your pastor? He's there to help FEED you!

no I do feel comfortable talking to him , just do not like bothering him all the time. I know he is busy.

I did acually tlak to him about it yesterday before Prayer meeting so he was able to help me , said to ask questions anytime :)
 
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I feel I meed a relationship with one person who can guide me and help me with answers, does anyone else find this >?
Yes, what you're describing is a discipling or a mentoring relationship.

You do need to be careful of who this should be -- plus it should be someone who has the time and is willing to be a mentor.
 
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no I do feel comfortable talking to him , just do not like bothering him all the time. I know he is busy.

I did acually tlak to him about it yesterday before Prayer meeting so he was able to help me , said to ask questions anytime :)

And he meant it, I'm sure. There was a girl (well, woman, at 27) who joined our church last year and knew NOTHING, no scriptural background of any sort, and she used her phone to text the Pastor every time she had a question. Which was up to a dozen times a day.
To be honest, pastors feed off hungry people - it gives them a rise and a challenge. If nobody asked them hard questions, they wouldn't grow.
 
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I spoke to the Pastor yesterday about the question I had and he answered me , and today when I seen him ( at prayer meeting ) his first words were that he has looked up the passage I was asking about again just to make sure he had advised me correctly.

I do nto think I will worry about asking him again if I cannot figure it out myself .

thanks again
 
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I spoke to the Pastor yesterday about the question I had and he answered me , and today when I seen him ( at prayer meeting ) his first words were that he has looked up the passage I was asking about again just to make sure he had advised me correctly.

I do nto think I will worry about asking him again if I cannot figure it out myself .

thanks again

That is indeed why GOD placed him there.

Be blessed,
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wondering star, welcome to the forums.

You've asked a great question, this has been a matter of enormous controversy among Christians for about 500 years. The Apostle Peter rightly points out that there is much in the Bible that is difficult to understand, and warns of our tendency to deceive ourselves (2 Peter 3:16). That's why Jesus established a government in the hands of Church officers, giving it the authority to determine matters of controversy, so that when we disagreed in matters of doctrine we could go to the Church knowing that it would always teach the truth:
1. The church is a divine institution: the Bride and Body of Christ. ( Eph. 1:22-23; Song of Songs; Isaiah 62; Jeremiah 2:1-3; Jeremiah 3:1-5, 3:19-20, 5:7)
2. The church is the foundation and pillar of truth. (1 Tim. 3:15)
3. The Church is forever visible, not hidden. (John 1:3-5; Matt. 5:14-15; Luke 8:16,11:33)
4. The Church will proclaim the true gospel continuously, forever. (Isaiah 59:21; Matt. 16:18b; Matt. 28:20b; 1 Pet 1:25)
5. The Church is built on the foundation of the Apostles.( Ephesians 2:17-22; Ephesians 3:4-5)
6. Jesus will always be with the Apostles, and they will never teach erroneous doctrine. (John 14:16-17; 15:26; 16:12-13, 17:17-19.)
7. The Apostles speak with the authority of God. (Matthew 10:20, Luke 10:16)
8. The Apostles will remember everything Jesus taught them. (John 14:16-18, 26, Luke 21:33)
9. The Apostles will be one in the doctrine they teach. (John 17:20-23)
10. The Apostles have the power to forgive sin. (John 20:21-23)
11. God will give the Apostles whatever they ask for in Christ’s name, and the fruit they bear will remain. (John 15:16, 16:23; Romans 1:13)
12. St. Peter has a pre-eminent place among the Apostles. (Matthew 16:17-19; Isaiah 22:20-25)
13. The Apostles, and not the believers at large, had the authority to interpret Scripture and teach binding doctrine. (Rom 13:1-2; Heb. 13:17; 1 Tim 1:3; 2 Pet. 1:16–21, 3:2, 3:16; Jude 8, 10-11, Numbers 16)
14. The Magesterium (the teaching authority of Christ’s Church) exercised that authority to make binding decisions on matters of faith. (Acts 15)
15. The teaching authority that Jesus gave to the Apostles extended to the Apostles’ successors. (Acts 1:20,26; 2 Tim 2:2; 1 Cor 3:9-11)​
This was always the belief and practice among Christians from the earliest days: go the the Church. We see this in Acts 15, when the first Church council determined the controversy about whether or not one had to be circumcised in order to become a Christian. Jesus hadn't told them the answer to that himself, if he had there would have been no controversy. He allowed the teaching authority of the Church, guided by the Holy Spirit, to determine the answer.

If you read the writings of the earliest Christians, you'll see that they believed that the Church had this authority. Read this, from Clement, 3rd Bishop of Rome, student of the Apostle Peter:
“Christ, therefore, is from God, and the Apostles are from Christ...Throughout the countryside they preached; and they appointed their earliest converts, testing them by the spirit, to be the bishops and deacons of future believers...Our Apostles knew through our Lord Jesus Christ that there would be strife for the office of bishop. For this reason, therefore, having received perfect knowledge, they appointed those who have already been mentioned, and afterward added the provision that, if they should die, other approved men should succeed to their ministry...Shameful, beloved, extremely shameful and unworthy of your training in Christ, is the report that on account of one or two persons the well-established and ancient Church of the Corinthians is in revolt against the presbyters. And this report has come not only to us, but even to those professing other faiths than ours, so that by your folly you heap blasphemies on the name of the Lord, and create a danger to yourselves...If anyone disobey the things which have been said by Him through us, let them know that they will involve themselves in transgression and in no small danger. We, however, shall be innocent of this sin...” Letter to the Corinthians (AD 80)​
Or this from Ignatius, 3rd Bishop of Antioch, student of the Apostle John:
“It is necessary, therefore, -and such is your practice, -that you do nothing without the bishop, and that you be subject also to the presbytery, as to the Apostles of Jesus Christ our hope...In like manner let everyone respect the deacons as they would respect Jesus Christ, and just as they respect the bishop as a type of the Father, and the presbyters as the council of God and the college of Apostles. Without these, it cannot be called a Church...anyone who acts without the bishop and the presbytery and the deacons does not have a clean conscience.” Letter to the Trallians (AD 110)

“For Jesus Christ, our inseparable life, is the will of the Father, just as the Bishops, who have been appointed throughout the world, are the will of Jesus Christ. It is fitting, therefore, that you should live in harmony with the will of the Bishop - as indeed you do...Let us be careful, then, if we would be submissive to God, not to oppose the Bishop. Furthermore, the more anyone observes that a Bishop remains silent, the more he should stand in fear of him. For anyone whom the master of the house sends to manage his business ought to be received by us as we would receive him by whom he was sent. It is clear, then, that we must look upon the Bishop as the Lord Himself...” Letter to the Ephesians (AD 110)

“You must all follow the bishop as Jesus Christ follows the Father, and the presbytery as you would the Apostles. Reverence the deacons as you would the command of God. Let no one do anything of concern to the church without the bishop.” Letter to the Smyrneans (AD 100)

“I exhort you to be careful to do all things in the unity of God, since the bishop sits in the place of God, and the presbyters in the place of the synod of the Apostles, and the deacons, who are most dear to me, have been entrusted with the ministry of Jesus Christ, who was with the Father before the world began, and was manifested in the end...Be diligent, therefore, to be confirmed in the doctrine of the Lord and of his Apostles, that ye may be prosperous in all things, whatsoever ye do, both in flesh and spirit, in faith and love, in the Son and the Father and the Spirit, in the beginning and the end, together with your most worthily-distinguished bishop, and the nobly woven spiritual crown of your presbytery, and of your deacons, who walk according to God. Submit yourselves to your bishop and to each other, as Jesus Christ to his Father according to the flesh, and the Apostles to Christ, and to the Father, and to the Spirit; that there may be a union both fleshly and spiritual.” Letter to the Magnesians (AD 110)

“Abstain from evil herbage, which Jesus Christ doth not cultivate, because it is not the planting of the Father. Not that I have found division among you, but thorough purity.I cried while I was among you, and spake with a loud voice, saying, Give heed unto the bishop, and to the presbyters, and to the deacons. But they suspected that I spake these things because I knew beforehand the division of certain of them; but he, for whose name I am in bonds, is witness unto me that I knew not these things through the flesh of man. But the spirit preached, saying these things: Do nothing apart from the bishop; keep your flesh as the temple of God; love unity, avoid divisions; be imitators of Jesus Christ, even as he is of his Father.” Letter to the Philadelphians (AD 100)​
The idea that every Christian has the authority to decide for himself what the Bible teaches, without having to bother with what is taught by the Church, is a modern invention that isn’t supported either by the Bible itself or the evidence of history.

The Church also exercised that authority in the councils that answered the great heresies: Gnosticism, Montanism, Sabellianism, Arianism, Pelagianism, Nestorianism. Monophytism, Iconoclasm... Mind you, every heresy was touted by those who claimed to find support for it in Sacred Scripture. Is Jesus God, or merely a creature? If he only human, or only divine, or both? Are Jesus and God the Father two distinct persons, or merely different modes of the same person? Do we inherit original sin? Can we reach out to God under our own power? Even the question about what books should be recognised as Sacred Scipture was answered by councils of the Church.

When these questions were decided by the Church, no one argued about them any more until recent times. But now there are again people who claim to be Christians but who also hold to one or other of the great heresies. The reason for it is that they reject the teaching authority that was established by Christ, believing that all they need is the very Bible which says that they need more than just the Bible. And so you’ll get nearly as many answers to a question as there are people of whom you can ask it.

Some people will tell you that Christians agree on the essentials, and disagree on non-essentials. But the problem is that the question of what is essential and what is non-essential, is itself an essential matter. And then they'll turn around and call someone's salvation into question on the grounds that they don't agree with them on some matter. Heck, at least one Christian denomination has officially said that we can't decide whether or not it's wrong to kill an unborn child, so everyone needs to figure it out for themselves! That's not an essential matter? - who is and who is not a person?

So who do you ask for help? The teaching authority that was established by Christ. In which Church do we find that authority? Easy: the one that has existed since the beginning of Christianity.
 
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