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If you mean the way the Tetragrammaton is translated as “LORD” then no, I’m not comfortable with that. But in that verse from Ephesians, the word was kyrios from the start.
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If you mean the way the Tetragrammaton is translated as “LORD” then no, I’m not comfortable with that. But in that verse from Ephesians, the word was kyrios from the start.For one, there is an issue when that word (which can be applied to false gods) s used to blot out the name of our heavenly father over 7000 times. There is another issue when it is used in a way that creates confusion regarding the assembly.
Is it OK to subtract words from scripture; and add the words of your choice in your book?
It's not in mine; and when you give it thought from that perspective; I suspect that you will agree.
If you mean the way the Tetragrammaton is translated as “LORD” then no, I’m not comfortable with that. But in that verse from Ephesians, the word was kyrios from the start.
Origin of synagogue
1125–75; Middle English synagoge < Late Latin synagōga < Greek synagōgḗ assembly, meeting, equivalent to syn- syn- + agōgḗ, noun use of feminine of agōgós (adj.) gathering, derivative of ágein to bring, lead; akin to Latin agere to drive
Definition of synagogue | Dictionary.com
Origin of ecclesia
1570–80; < Latin < Greek ekklēsía assembly, equivalent to ékklēt(os) summoned (ek- ec- + klē-, variant of kal-, stem of kaleîn to call, + -tos past participle suffix) + -ia -ia
Definition of ecclesia | Dictionary.com
(CLV) Ac 13:42
Now, at their being out, they entreated that these declarations be spoken to them on the intervening sabbath.
(CLV) Ac 13:43
Now the synagogue having broken up, many of the Jews and the reverent proselytes follow Paul and Barnabas, who, speaking to them, persuaded them to remain in the grace of God.
proselyte noun
pros·e·lyte | \ ˈprä-sə-ˌlīt
Definition of proselyte
: a new convert (as to a faith or cause)
Definition of PROSELYTE
Converts. They would be the Ger Tzedek
Could it include anyone else?
The biblical term "proselyte" is an anglicization of the Koine Greek term προσήλυτος (proselytos), as used in the Septuagint (Greek Old Testament) for "stranger", i.e. a "newcomer to Israel";[1] a "sojourner in the land",[2] and in the Greek New Testament[3] for a first-century convert to Judaism, generally from Ancient Greek religion. It is a translation of the Biblical Hebrew phrase גר תושב (ger toshav).[3]
Proselyte - Wikipedia
Ahh! The Ger Toshav, the sojourner in the land.
James gave this mandate to the Ger Toshav, not from anything in scripture that we have Yahshua repeating; it comes straight from the Torah:
(CLV) Ac 15:20
but to write an epistle to them to be abstaining from ceremonial pollution with idols, and prostitution, and what is strangled, and blood.
Leviticus 17
7 No longer shall they sacrifice their sacrifices to hairy goat-demons after whom they have been prostituting. An eonian statute shall this become for them throughout their generations. 8 To them you shall say:Any man from the house of Israel or from the sojourners who sojourn in your midst who should offer an ascent offering or a sacrifice 9 and not bring it to the opening of the tent of appointment to offer it to Yahweh, that man will be cut off from his kinsmen. 10 As for any man from the house of Israel and from the sojourners sojourning in your midst who should eat any blood, I will set My face against the soul eating blood, and I will cut him off from among his people, 11 for the soul of the flesh, it is in the blood, and I Myself have assigned it to you to make a propitiatory shelter over your souls on the altar; for the blood, in the soul it makes a propitiatory shelter. 12 Therefore I say to the sons of Israel:No soul at all of you shall eat blood; nor shall the sojourner sojourning in your midst eat blood. 13 Any man from the sons of Israel and from the sojourners sojourning in your midst who hunt a game animal or a flyer which may be eaten will pour out its blood and cover it with soil, 14 for the soul of all flesh is its blood; as its soul is it. So I said to the sons of Israel:The blood of any flesh you shall not eat, for the soul of all flesh, it is its blood. Everyone eating it shall be cut off.
James qualified this mandate to the Ger Toshav that they were listening to the Torah every Sabbath in the Synagogues.
(CLV) Ac 15:21
For Moses, from ancient generations, city by city, has those who are heralding him, being read on every sabbath in the synagogues."
(CLV) Ac 18:4
Now he argued in the synagogue on every sabbath and persuaded both Jews and Greeks
If you would like to explain this in your own thread; let me know. I'd like to review your study on the subject; however, this is off topic for this thread.
I came from paganism and I was blessed to meet someone who talked to me about God’s name before I even converted. I don’t think you’re wrong to want to do that. Proverbs 18:10 is truth.I've been uncomfortable with the ambiguity that the manipulation of these words have created since I was a teenager.
Even if we were to attribute the naming of the assembly to kyrios, (which translates to the same phonetics as another word that translates to the same phonetics which can mean Ba'al, when speaking to those who are coming to Yahshua from Paganism (That was a mouthful, Just look at the confusion that has been created.)) which doesn't really match; how would we apply that name in light of Acts 16:30?
I came from paganism and I was blessed to meet someone who talked to me about God’s name before I even converted.
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