is it possible, according to the Bible, that satan could judge but as a deception, as in judge someone 'righteous' but it would be a lie? would God even allow him to pull such a trick as that?
-
Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
who can judge
- Thread starter blah1234
- Start date
No. There is none righteous, no, not one. That is straight out of the Bible. The only Righteousness is found in Jesus. His Righteousness is imparted to us when we confess Him as Savior. We have NO righteousness in and of ourselves and satan is the antipathy of anything holy.
Upvote
0
- Dec 10, 2003
- 23,896
- 9,864
- Country
- Australia
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Single
Upvote
0
S
seeking Christ
Guest
Yes. One demon is Alexander, defender of man. Self-righteousness is indeed within our enemy's arsenal.
Upvote
0
- Dec 10, 2003
- 23,896
- 9,864
- Country
- Australia
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Single
Upvote
0
Satan could make someone think they were righteous by deceiving them maybe (a non-believer). Is that what you mean? All believers are made righteous by Christ when they accept Him as Lord and Savior.
Satan doesn't judge anything though.
Satan doesn't judge anything though.
Upvote
0
i didn't mean self-righteous. I meant God judges someone righteous. Or Lucifer as to trick someone into thinking they are righteous.
So God would judge someone who believes in Christ as righteous. And Jesus is the only person who is righteous without going through Christ, because he is Christ.
I'm going to add something here....
What if you met the Angel of the Lord. And He judged you righteous before Him?
So God would judge someone who believes in Christ as righteous. And Jesus is the only person who is righteous without going through Christ, because he is Christ.
I'm going to add something here....
What if you met the Angel of the Lord. And He judged you righteous before Him?
Upvote
0
I think there are lot of people who think they are righteous but are not actually saved. So yeah they have been deceived by Satan probably much as the Pharisees were. Is that the type of thing you're referring to? I'm still kinda of confused as to what you're trying to ask.
Upvote
0
i guess what i'm trying to ask is how does a person know they will be judged righteous? and this too...who would Lucifer and/or demons tell the truth to?
Upvote
0
2 Cor 5:21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Romans 5:1-21 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance; 4 and perseverance, proven character; and proven character, hope; 5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. 11 And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13 for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
15 But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many. 16 The gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment arose from one transgression [k]resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the free gift arose from many transgressions resulting in justification. 17 For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.
18 So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men. 19 For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous. 20 The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, 21 so that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
In receiving Christ you are made righteous through Him.
Romans 5:1-21 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance; 4 and perseverance, proven character; and proven character, hope; 5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. 11 And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13 for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
15 But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many. 16 The gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment arose from one transgression [k]resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the free gift arose from many transgressions resulting in justification. 17 For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.
18 So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men. 19 For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous. 20 The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, 21 so that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
In receiving Christ you are made righteous through Him.
Upvote
0
is there ever a case where a demon would not tell a lie?
is there ever a case where Lucifer would not tell a lie?
is there ever a case where Lucifer would not tell a lie?
Upvote
0
John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. (talking about Satan in this verse)
If you want to go off of that verse, I would say no. Most of the time what Satan does is starts with a truth. Say for example, the easist would be sex. Sex was created by God, for pleasure. Then he corrupts it by letting you believe you should be able to have as much sex as you want, with whomever you want, outside of marriage, because sex is one of your desires as a human being.
While the truth is that sex is one of our desires as human beings, Satan corrupts it. God designed it to be within the boundaries of marriage. So he essentially corrupts all truth to make it into a lie.
Does that make sense?
If you want to go off of that verse, I would say no. Most of the time what Satan does is starts with a truth. Say for example, the easist would be sex. Sex was created by God, for pleasure. Then he corrupts it by letting you believe you should be able to have as much sex as you want, with whomever you want, outside of marriage, because sex is one of your desires as a human being.
While the truth is that sex is one of our desires as human beings, Satan corrupts it. God designed it to be within the boundaries of marriage. So he essentially corrupts all truth to make it into a lie.
Does that make sense?
Upvote
0
B
Bible2
Guest
Jesus Christ alone can judge, ultimately (i.e., at one's bodily resurrection):
"For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me" (John 5:22-30).
"... we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad" (2 Corinthians 5:10).
"... as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation" (Hebrews 9:27-28).
-------
But, because Christians have God's own Word the Bible (2 Timothy 3:16-4:4) and God's own Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:10-16), Christians are also able to temporally judge whether someone is currently sinning or not:
"I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine" (2 Timothy 4:1-2).
"I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person" (1 Corinthians 5:9-13).
"... he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ" (1 Corinthians 2:15-16).
Last edited:
Upvote
0
Man, you need to get in an authentic Bible study at a local church. You are really grasping at straws in a sea of quicksand. None of us are called upon to answer ridiculous questions. WE know they are ridiculous, you don't. You are found in 1 Corinthians 2:1-14. Read that now.
After you have done so, check out John 14:6, John 3:16-17; John 3:3, John 5:24, Romans 10:8-13. If you sincerely confess Jesus as Savior then you can turn to Ephesians 2:8-9. Then we will rejoice with you.
Upvote
0
God is His own standard. He makes the rules. He is the ultimate standard for righteousness. Jesus is the Son, who is also God, part of the trinity. So He is righteous.
Upvote
0
Similar threads
